Was the Steele Dossier used to start investigations?

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Was the Steele Dossier used to start investigations?

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NO.
In an interview about the special counsel’s report, Rep. John Ratcliffe said that what “started all of this” was “a fake, phony dossier.” But a House Republican intelligence committee memo said it was information about a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser that sparked the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Russian interference in the election.
The Democrats on the House intelligence committee agreed with that, saying in a memo released Feb. 24, 2018, that the FBI investigation started “more than seven weeks” before the FBI received Steele’s intelligence reporting in mid-September of that year.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/dossi ... l-of-this/
https://smucker.house.gov/sites/smucker ... 20Memo.pdf

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Re: Was the Steele Dossier used to start investigations?

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bannination wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:19 pm
NO....
Yes, says Glenn Greenwald, at least in part.

The Inspector General’s Report on 2016 FBI Spying Reveals a Scandal of Historic Magnitude: Not Only for the FBI but Also the U.S. Media

I'm not knowledgeable enough to pick a side, just saying that a credible analyst has a different view.
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Re: Was the Steele Dossier used to start investigations?

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Ex-FBI director Comey: 'I was wrong’ to defend origins of Russia probe

... Last week, Justice Department inspector general Michael Horowitz released a long-awaited 434-page report, which found that the FBI team that conducted Crossfire Hurricane — the code name for the bureau’s investigation into links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government — improperly relied too heavily on allegations made by Christopher Steele, a former British spy hired by an opposition research firm working for the Hillary Clinton campaign....

Comey and Wallace sparred over the Steele dossier's role in the FBI's investigation and FISA application.

Before Trump was sworn into office, a leaked and unverified 35-page dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele alleged the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to defeat Clinton in 2016 presidential election. It later became one of the starting points of Robert Mueller’s investigation.

Comey said the so-called “Steele dossier” was "not a huge part of the presentation to the court," but Wallace pointed out that according to the inspector general’s report, it played a central role in establishing probable cause for an investigation and FISA warrants.

“In fact, he says, if it hadn't been for the Steele dossier, the FBI probably would haven't even submitted a FISA application,” Wallace said, referring to Horowitz.

“I’m not sure he and I are saying different things,” Comey responded. “What his report says is that the FBI thought it was a close call until they got the Steele report, put that additional information in and that tipped it over to be probable cause. It’s a long FISA application and includes Steele material and a lot of other things. I don’t think we’re saying different things.” ...
Same article, discussion of Steele dossier veracity:
http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... 17#p106517
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Re: Was the Steele Dossier used to start investigations?

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The FBI Pledged to Keep a Source Anonymous. Trump Allies Aided His Unmasking.

Summary:
Steele used a credible expert in compiling his report, though not one with direct knowledge of the supposed events.
Steele was sloppy and exaggerated.
Lyndsey Graham and other Trump sycophants are sleazeballs that compromise national security.
Neither Mueller nor the FBI relied on the Steele dossier for their investigations, other than the FBI citing it to partially justify the wiretap of Carter Page.
The Repugs knowingly exaggerate the importance of the Steele dossier in order to discredit the truth about Russian manipulation and PINO family and campaign complicity in it.

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