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Ulysses wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:16 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... y-damning/
(The increasingly damning timeline of Trump’s coronavirus response)
Trump’s Lost Months Are Killing Us. Here’s How to Make Them Politically Fatal for Him.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-lost-m ... 44950.html

"Slow Response to the Coronavirus Measured in Lost Opportunity," The New York Times, March 24, 2020
https://act.moveon.org/go/119378?t=28&a ... 8%2EBWkRmR

"All the President's Lies About the Coronavirus," The Atlantic, March 24, 2020
https://act.moveon.org/go/119010?t=30&a ... 8%2EBWkRmR

"Trump said his coronavirus response has been a perfect '10.' Public-health experts say that it's 'abysmal' and that he needs to 'stop talking.'" Business Insider, March 17, 2020
https://act.moveon.org/go/119382?t=40&a ... 8%2EBWkRmR

"I ran the White House pandemic office. Trump closed it." The Washington Post, March 13, 2020
https://act.moveon.org/go/119372?t=16&a ... 8%2EBWkRmR

"U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic," The Washington Post, March 20, 2020
https://act.moveon.org/go/119374?t=20&a ... 8%2EBWkRmR

"The Lost Month: How a Failure to Test Blinded the U.S. to Covid-19," The New York Times, March 28, 2020
https://act.moveon.org/go/119376?t=24&a ... 8%2EBWkRmR

Governors Ask for Coronavirus Equipment. Trump Replies, ‘Try Getting It Yourselves.’
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03 ... ators.html

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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:21 am
Forum post, not verified by me but seems accurate:
PINO’s timeline:

March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
Mar 6th 319 cases
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
Mar 8th 541 cases & 15 deaths
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 9: "The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant.”
Mar 9th 704 cases & 26 deaths
March 10: "It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away."
March 10: “As you know, it’s about 600 cases, it’s about 26 deaths, within our country. And had we not acted quickly, that number would have been substantially more.”
March 10: “And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
Mar 10th 994 cases & 30 deaths
March 11: “I think we’re going to get through it very well.”
Mar 11th 1301 cases & 38 deaths
March 12: “It’s going to go away. ... The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.”
Mar 12th 1630 cases & 41 deaths
March 13: Says Food and Drug Administration “will bring, additionally, 1.4 million tests on board next week and 5 million within a month. I doubt we’ll need anywhere near that.”
Mar 13th 2183 cases & 48 deaths
March 14: “We’re using the full power of the federal government to defeat the virus, and that’s what we’ve been doing.” Also retweeted supporter Candace Owens who cited “good news” on coronavirus, including that, “Italy is hit hard, experts say, because they have the oldest population in Europe (average age of those that have died is 81).”
Mar 14th 2770 cases & 57 deaths
March 15: “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”
Mar 15th 3613 cases & 69 deaths
March 16: “If you’re talking about the virus, no, that’s not under control for any place in the world. ... I was talking about what we’re doing is under control, but I’m not talking about the virus.”
Mar 16th 4596 cases & 87 deaths
March 17: “We’re going to win. And I think we’re going to win faster than people think -- I hope.”
Mar 17th 6344 cases & 110 deaths
Mar 24: “I’d love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter,”
Mar 24th 54,856 cases & 780 deaths
Mar 25th 68211 cases and 1027 dead
March 29th over 139,000 cases and over 2,400 dead
March 31st over 182,543 cases and over 3,732 dead
He was equally bad in Jan and Feb.

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Meanwhile, a new study says the lockdown and shelter in place rules should not be "fully" lifted until a vaccine is available... which could be a year from now...

Lockdowns shouldn't be fully lifted until coronavirus vaccine found, new study warns
Authorities ended the 76-day lockdown of Wuhan in Hubei province on Wednesday, as the city at the original epicenter of the coronavirus crisis emerges from the deadly outbreak that is now raging across the globe. Some restrictions will remain in place, however, with officials conscious of the risk as trains and tourist sites were packed across the country.

"While these control measures appear to have reduced the number of infections to very low levels, without herd immunity against Covid-19, cases could easily resurge as businesses, factory operations, and schools gradually resume and increase social mixing, particularly given the increasing risk of imported cases from overseas as Covid-19 continues to spread globally," said Professor Joseph T Wu from the University of Hong Kong, who co-led the research, in a Wednesday news release. He cautioned that the speed of infection would rise unless governments ensured restrictions were lifted slowly and transmission was closely monitored.

"Although control policies such as physical distancing and behavioral change are likely to be maintained for some time, proactively striking a balance between resuming economic activities and keeping the reproductive number below one is likely to be the best strategy until effective vaccines become widely available."...

A dozen academics wrote in that report, which was published last week by the Ifo Institute for Economic Research, that they do not expect a vaccine or effective treatment for the coronavirus to be available before 2021.


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Please keep this to facts only, no discussion.

Thank You!

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bannination wrote:
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Please keep this to facts only, no discussion.

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Sure, I'll try.

However bear in mind that fair use usually requires some commentary, analysis, discussion above and beyond quoting a factual work.

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"Fair use" intro: Trump dithered and lied, tens of thousands died.
Trump Didn’t Like Azar’s Warnings. So He Disappeared Him.

The more we learn about what went on behind the scenes during the critical early days of the coronavirus pandemic, the more Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar had emerged as a rare and unlikely hero pushing the White House for an early response.

Speaking truth to power has its price in the Trump administration. The former Eli Lilly executive was shouted down by White House aides as “alarmist” and sidelined by Jared Kushner, Mike Pence and others willing to give the president a more rosy view. And on Sunday night, Trump lashed out at Azar by name for the first time, following a New York Times report that Azar had “directly warned Mr. Trump of the possibility of a pandemic during a call on Jan. 30, the second warning he delivered to the president about the virus in two weeks.”

After complaining about “mayhem” at the White House, Azar's future is uncertain but his attempts to get top officials and President Trump to pay attention to the coming pandemic should not be lost in the fog of war as Trump recasts history in his favor....

As the Washington Post reported in its deep dive into the administration’s response during the first 70 days of the coronavirus pandemic (which this column draws heavily from), Azar first learned from the director of the CDC, Robert Redfield, in a phone call on or about Jan. 1 that an unknown respiratory illness was sickening people in Wuhan.

Azar had his chief of staff notify the National Security Council and by Jan. 7 had begun convening a task force that included Redfield and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the now famous infectious disease scientist from the NIH. By mid-January, they had begun drafting contingency plans to enforce the Defense Production Act.

Nobody had yet briefed President Trump on what was looking more and more like a pandemic. That was left to Azar, who phoned the president at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday, Jan. 18....

From the time of their first phone call on Jan. 18, when Azar told him about the virus, Trump held eight rallies with thousands of people assembled, and played golf six times.

Azar ran the administration’s response until Trump tapped Pence on Feb. 26. Azar has been sidelined ever since, with his agency disempowered in decision-making and his performance pilloried by a range of White House officials....

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The Many Times The Trump Administration Exploited The Coronavirus Crisis

ENVIRONMENT

Power Plants, Vehicle Manufacturers Not Required To Lower Emissions ...
Interior Department Presses Ahead With Drilling Project In Alaska ...
Nuclear Regulatory Commission Moves To Deregulate Nuclear Waste Dumping ...
Environmental Protection Agency Waives Regulations On Pollutions For Corporations ...
Trump Proposes Allowing GMO Crops In Wildlife Refuges ...

FOREIGN POLICY

Trump Administration Proposes ‘Framework’ For ‘Democratic Transition’ In Venezuela ...
Justice Department Charges Venezuela President With ‘Narco-Terrorism,’ Offers Bounty ...
State Department Intensified Crippling Sanctions Against Iran ...
IMF Rejected Venezuela’s Request For Billions In Aid To Help Fight Coronavirus ...
U.S. Military Strikes Against Militia Groups In Iran Supposedly Backed By Iran ...

IMMIGRATION

Trump Administration Suspends Immigrant/Nonimmigrant Visa Services For Guest Workers From Mexico ...

CORPORATIONS

National Labor Relations Board Issues Rule Making It Much Harder For Workers To Unionize ...
Federal Reserve Appoints BlackRock To Manage Corporate Debt Purchase Program ...
Nuclear Industry Clamors For A Bailout ...

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Trump suggests injecting disinfectant to treat coronavirus and touts power of sunlight to beat disease

Hope someone injects Trump with bleach.
Trump injects himself with bleach.
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Penny for her thoughts?

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Crap, all the networks will replay this moment when I die, and it will be the teaser for any documentary about me.
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Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:35 pm
Immortalizing this...

A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going test it. Supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going test that too. Sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number in the lungs. It would be interesting to check you’re going have to use medical doctors with that, but it sounds interesting to me. And so we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s pretty powerful.

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Never mind, moved to a redundant thread.
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Vrede too wrote:
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Yes, we've all figured out your desperate need for attention through thread and even subforum initiation by now.
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In contrast, if you had started this thread I would have been happy to add to it rather than needlessly cluttering up this subforum.
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Trump's daily briefings warned repeatedly about the coronavirus in January and February, officials say

President Trump's daily intelligence briefing included detailed warnings by early January about the new coronavirus spreading through China, ABC News reported in early April. But there were actually prominent warnings in more than a dozen of the classified President's Daily Brief reports throughout January and February, The Washington Post reported Monday evening.

"For weeks, the PDB — as the report is known — traced the virus's spread around the globe, made clear that China was suppressing information about the contagion's transmissibility and lethal toll, and raised the prospect of dire political and economic consequences," the Post reports, citing current and former U.S. officials. "But the alarms appear to have failed to register with the president, who routinely skips reading the PDB and has at times shown little patience for even the oral summary he takes two or three times per week."

... Trump would not have been the only White House official to get the intelligence warnings about the spreading coronavirus, and the other officials would discuss a threat this prominent with the president, David Priess, a former CIA officer who briefed President George W. Bush, told the Post. Trump "can get the best intelligence in the world and still not make good decisions based on it." ...
Lots of tragic info, too much to excerpt:

The coronavirus enemy remained 'invisible' because the Trump administration didn't make the effort to see it

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Posted here since the consequences of the hasty, unscientific and dangerous Trump cheerleading for hydroxychloroquine won't go away anytime soon.

4/24: FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems

Different page:
Medical Countermeasures

There are currently no FDA-approved medical countermeasures for COVID-19. FDA stands ready to work with medical product developers to clarify regulatory and data requirements necessary to move products forward in development as quickly as possible.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedn ... id-19#faqs

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Trump Called Out To His Face After Blaming Obama For 'Broken' Coronavirus Tests

... But Obama left office in 2017 and COVID-19 didn’t exist until last year, as CNN’s Jim Acosta was quick to point out to the president.

“You say ‘broken tests,’” Acosta said. “It’s a new virus, so how could the tests be broken?”

Trump was unfazed by the timeline.

“We had broken tests. We had tests that were obsolete. We had tests that didn’t take care of people,” Trump said....
Trump and Kushner Engage in Wishful Thinking and Revisionist History

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Trump Blocks Fauci Testimony Before Democratic House, But He Is Free to Speak Before Republican Senate
“We have been informed by an administration official that the White House has blocked Dr. Fauci from testifying,” House Appropriations Committee spokesman Evan Hollander said


In a move that is all but impossible to label as anything but partisan, the White House has blocked their top infectious disease expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, from testifying before a Democratic-controlled House subcommittee next week, but will allow the doctor to testify in front of a Republican-led Senate committee later this month.

After the Washington Post broke the story late Friday, White House spokesman Judd Deere, released a statement that said allowing Fauci to appear before Congress would be “counterproductive” to the government’s coronavirus response teams’ efforts. But Deere conveniently did not mention anything about the doctor’s May 12 scheduled appearance before a Republican-controlled Senate committee....
This admin* is “counterproductive”.

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