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I have dreams of somehow being named CEO of whatever company Coca Cola belongs to. I would lobby Congress to allow small amounts of cocaine to be re introduced to the drink like the original, be successful at this lobbying, and then watch Coke stock rise dramatically along with my bonus. I would be king of pre existing conditions.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:49 am
Ulysses wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:30 pm
O Really wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:36 pm
I clicked on this only because I didn't know there was any such thing as "leftover wine."
What a bunch of idiots - in all their "cleverness" they didn't even mention "drink it"

https://www.rd.com/advice/saving-money/leftover-wine/
Ooof.

Considering that until relatively recently some unscrupulous purveyors of wine would adulterate their offerings with a lead compound to make it taste sweeter. It was lead acetate, called sugar of lead. Postulated as one of the reasons for the fall of the Roman empire. But apparently still added to some wines in the 20th century. No, I don't have any proof of that, but I'd be wary of slurping up any old wine absent provenance.
I bet a lot of these old wines from the 18th or 19th century that are "found" in old wine cellars or were part of some royal or rich man's stash have this lead additive. Probably a lot of the early 20th century wine as well. I've never been much for wine but have in the past drank white wine from Germany. Never could stand red wine. Also, back in the day arsenic and strychnine were commonly used for idiotic purposes.
Somewhere around here I've got a little bottle of lead test strips. I got them to test the old paint on this 1941 house for lead. Yeah, it was there. I imagine they could be used to detect lead in wine, as well. Not that I have any.
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Ulysses wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:26 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:49 am
Ulysses wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:30 pm
O Really wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:36 pm
I clicked on this only because I didn't know there was any such thing as "leftover wine."
What a bunch of idiots - in all their "cleverness" they didn't even mention "drink it"

https://www.rd.com/advice/saving-money/leftover-wine/
Ooof.

Considering that until relatively recently some unscrupulous purveyors of wine would adulterate their offerings with a lead compound to make it taste sweeter. It was lead acetate, called sugar of lead. Postulated as one of the reasons for the fall of the Roman empire. But apparently still added to some wines in the 20th century. No, I don't have any proof of that, but I'd be wary of slurping up any old wine absent provenance.
I bet a lot of these old wines from the 18th or 19th century that are "found" in old wine cellars or were part of some royal or rich man's stash have this lead additive. Probably a lot of the early 20th century wine as well. I've never been much for wine but have in the past drank white wine from Germany. Never could stand red wine. Also, back in the day arsenic and strychnine were commonly used for idiotic purposes.
Somewhere around here I've got a little bottle of lead test strips. I got them to test the old paint on this 1941 house for lead. Yeah, it was there. I imagine they could be used to detect lead in wine, as well. Not that I have any.
I just looked. Amazon has hundreds. The strips start at about $15 for 30

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Ulysses wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:26 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:49 am
I bet a lot of these old wines from the 18th or 19th century that are "found" in old wine cellars or were part of some royal or rich man's stash have this lead additive. Probably a lot of the early 20th century wine as well. I've never been much for wine but have in the past drank white wine from Germany. Never could stand red wine. Also, back in the day arsenic and strychnine were commonly used for idiotic purposes.
Somewhere around here I've got a little bottle of lead test strips. I got them to test the old paint on this 1941 house for lead. Yeah, it was there. I imagine they could be used to detect lead in wine, as well. Not that I have any.
Along with conferring to wine "an agreeable taste due to the formation of "sugar of lead" (lead(II) acetate)," lead has also been often used in glass, possibly in wine bottle glass, definitely in drinking glasses, often older or imported.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_glass
Some friends did some routine lead testing of their kids, were horrified to discover elevated levels, eventually narrowed it down to juice glasses - imported, I think.

In other words, granny is trying to make you stupid from beyond the grave :D .
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:57 am
Ulysses wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:26 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:49 am
Ulysses wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:30 pm
O Really wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:36 pm
I clicked on this only because I didn't know there was any such thing as "leftover wine."
What a bunch of idiots - in all their "cleverness" they didn't even mention "drink it"

https://www.rd.com/advice/saving-money/leftover-wine/
Ooof.

Considering that until relatively recently some unscrupulous purveyors of wine would adulterate their offerings with a lead compound to make it taste sweeter. It was lead acetate, called sugar of lead. Postulated as one of the reasons for the fall of the Roman empire. But apparently still added to some wines in the 20th century. No, I don't have any proof of that, but I'd be wary of slurping up any old wine absent provenance.
I bet a lot of these old wines from the 18th or 19th century that are "found" in old wine cellars or were part of some royal or rich man's stash have this lead additive. Probably a lot of the early 20th century wine as well. I've never been much for wine but have in the past drank white wine from Germany. Never could stand red wine. Also, back in the day arsenic and strychnine were commonly used for idiotic purposes.
Somewhere around here I've got a little bottle of lead test strips. I got them to test the old paint on this 1941 house for lead. Yeah, it was there. I imagine they could be used to detect lead in wine, as well. Not that I have any.
I just looked. Amazon has hundreds. The strips start at about $15 for 30
My wording is poor. I'm fairly certain I still have the little vial of lead test strips. I mean that I don't think I have any bottles of 19th century wine to test...
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I guess those folks that make lead crystal glass items aren't kidding. Lead is also used as ballast in US submarines but the lead is in inaccessible voids on the boat.

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O Really wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:06 pm
... #1 is a San Diego food truck where we got the house specialty chicken shawarma a couple of weeks ago. It was really good, but we had no idea we were eating at the top place in the country. Glad we went when we did - probably won't be able to get near the place for a while. https://www.yelp.com/biz/shawarma-guys-san-diego ...
Just featured on ABC News. Can't find it on the website yet, but it will probably appear soon. You're correct, "double" the customers since the ranking, "line around the corner".
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:00 am
Eat like a Trump! Pizza and burgers for everyone!
For anyone with Photoshop skills a good response to this would be a group of obese school kids with POSPOTUS and Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue heads.

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No grown man who calls himself "Sonny" should ever be in charge of anything important. And maybe this one should drop a hundred pounds before he starts designing kids' menus.

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O Really wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:43 am
No grown man who calls himself "Sonny" should ever be in charge of anything important. And maybe this one should drop a hundred pounds before he starts designing kids' menus.
This is an observation I've made in regards to the hate on healthy foods and other healthy behaviors by certain segments of the political spectrum.

A lot of these people are incredibly unhealthy themselves and incredibly insecure. They're in shitty health, and their lives are uneventful and unfulfilling. Rather than trying to work on improving themselves, they take out their insecurities on others.

If you don't wanna work out and dig chomping down on good tasty food, go for it. I do too. There's no hate from me. I don't think most people care. But if someone is unhappy with themselves they shouldn't try to knock others down a peg or force others to be worse off just out of spite.

Another example that's always been in vogue is mocking millennial college students. I caught a lot of flak and mockery for being in college back when I was working in a gas station in rural fucking SC around 2005. If you told some of these people you were in college you'd automatically get judged as being dumb and inept and wasting your time when you could be working at a factory or something. Once again. No hate in workimgnin a factory or trade.


Many people need to feel superior others in order to have any sense of self worth. It's sad.

They want everyone to be just as miserable as them.
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Whack9 wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:34 am
This is an observation I've made in regards to the hate on healthy foods and other healthy behaviors by certain segments of the political spectrum.

A lot of these people are incredibly unhealthy themselves and incredibly insecure. They're in shitty health, and their lives are uneventful and unfulfilling. Rather than trying to work on improving themselves, they take out their insecurities on others....
Add to that the pitiful insecure bigotry. It was a strong, smart black woman pushing healthy child nutrition.
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Lead crystal is beautiful but not safe for storage.

It belongs in a display case.

There is crystal that doesn't contain lead. Safer although not quite as pretty.

Like some women.
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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:02 pm
Lead crystal is beautiful but not safe for storage.

It belongs in a display case.

There is crystal that doesn't contain lead. Safer although not quite as pretty.

Like some women.
Same for tiffany lamp shades, windows and anything with lead solder or came.

We used to be concerned with lead in the blue glazes on pottery from Mexico. It was a lot easier to avoid blue from Mexico than it is now avoiding everything from everywhere due to a host of undetectable heavy metals.

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Heavy metal is pretty easy to detect. Start here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_bands
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O Really wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:01 pm
Heavy metal is pretty easy to detect. Start here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_bands
;)
Okay, I was being overly dramatic, but it is hard to identify while Christmas shopping at a toy store, trying to buy toys and school supplies, shopping online and on everything you come into contact with, etc.

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Ulysses wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:02 pm
Lead crystal is beautiful but not safe for storage....
Not safe for any use with food or drink, even temporary, as I describe here:
http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... es#p108348
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:28 pm
Same for tiffany lamp shades, windows and anything with lead solder or came.

We used to be concerned with lead in the blue glazes on pottery from Mexico. It was a lot easier to avoid blue from Mexico than it is now avoiding everything from everywhere due to a host of undetectable heavy metals.
I THINK they're all pretty safe unless being used for food or drink. I don't think there's leaching with touch alone.
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:16 pm
Okay, I was being overly dramatic, but it is hard to identify while Christmas shopping at a toy store, trying to buy toys and school supplies, shopping online and on everything you come into contact with, etc.
Good point, lead in toys that young children might put in their mouths is a bad thing. Yet another reason for strict testing and regulation. Parents shouldn't have to research EVERYTHING.
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O Really wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:01 pm
Heavy metal is pretty easy to detect. Start here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_bands
;)
You don't want to end up like Whack9 :P .
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:28 pm
Ulysses wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:02 pm
Lead crystal is beautiful but not safe for storage.

It belongs in a display case.

There is crystal that doesn't contain lead. Safer although not quite as pretty.

Like some women.
Same for tiffany lamp shades, windows and anything with lead solder or came.

We used to be concerned with lead in the blue glazes on pottery from Mexico. It was a lot easier to avoid blue from Mexico than it is now avoiding everything from everywhere due to a host of undetectable heavy metals.
Well, the danger from lead in things like dishes, glasses, and decanters is that they come into contact with food, and the lead can then be leached out from the container and poison people who consume the food or beverage.

Are you using Tiffany lamp shades as food bowls?
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