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A Question For Bannination:

If I accidentally hit a wrong key when logging in, I'm informed I have entered the wrong Username or password. If I accidentally repeat it, I have to answer a captcha question. So here's my question to you. If a bot is a computer generated entry; how are bots joining the forums membership if they have to physically answer a captcha question? Inquiring minds want to know. :headscratch: :headscratch: -0-?

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Also, if these new "members" are bots, how are they creating threads such as the fake passport threads?

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bannination wrote:.... (not really, sending notification only)
Banni, you didn't answer my question;
How does a bot create a member profile when the bot has to answer a captcha question? :headscratch: -0-?

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Leo Lyons wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:25 pm
bannination wrote:.... (not really, sending notification only)
Banni, you didn't answer my question;
How does a bot create a member profile when the bot has to answer a captcha question? :headscratch: -0-?
They're getting smarter. AI and all that jazz.
Fuck 2019 2020

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Leo Lyons wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:17 pm
A Question For Bannination:

If I accidentally hit a wrong key when logging in, I'm informed I have entered the wrong Username or password. If I accidentally repeat it, I have to answer a captcha question. So here's my question to you. If a bot is a computer generated entry; how are bots joining the forums membership if they have to physically answer a captcha question? Inquiring minds want to know. :headscratch: :headscratch: -0-?
Well, for one, they don't have to "physically" answer a captcha question - a minor nit.

The answer is image recognition, just like you can make a scan of a paper and have it turn into editable words on your computer screen they use that technology to a further extreme. That's why in some captcha's you see all kinds of wavy lines and distortions that make it a pain in the ass for a human to read, it also makes it hard for a computer to read -- except computers are now better at reading them than humans are.

That's why companies like google have newer version of captcha's which are pretty interesting and have all sort of algorithms judging if your a human as you solve their picture puzzles. It also helps google recognize what are actually street signs to feed back in to their maps. (So I've heard..)

I may experiment with turning the captcha off, I'm not sure it helps anymore, and I have other measures helping to identify spammers.

Here's the log from just today on how many were blocked using one of the measures from using the forum, and there was about 60 break in attempts at the server level today. The internet is a dangerous place.

Anonymous 86.57.215.208 Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:57 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
» 86.57.215.208
Anonymous 185.100.85.190 Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:21 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
» 185.100.85.190
Anonymous 31.184.238.115 Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:59 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
» 31.184.238.115
Anonymous 204.85.191.30 Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:44 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
» 204.85.191.30
Anonymous 185.220.101.44 Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:05 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
» 185.220.101.44
Anonymous 109.70.100.18 Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:35 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
» 109.70.100.18
Anonymous 185.220.102.4 Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:34 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
» 185.220.102.4
Anonymous 82.102.27.183 Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:15 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
» 82.102.27.183
Anonymous 77.247.181.165 Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:36 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 185.220.101.20 Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:12 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 199.87.154.255 Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:42 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 195.211.161.67 Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:31 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 185.220.101.6 Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:45 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 88.81.225.162 Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:07 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 195.176.3.19 Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:10 pm Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 185.56.80.242 Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:40 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 158.69.160.189 Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:43 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 185.220.101.32 Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:28 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 89.236.34.117 Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:16 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 51.255.202.66 Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:18 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 91.160.110.219 Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:50 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 176.119.28.57 Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:24 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 51.38.64.136 Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:57 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 18.85.22.239 Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:13 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 192.160.102.168 Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:00 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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Anonymous 209.90.225.250 Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:29 am Banned IP for reason “Found in Spam database”
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bannination wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:27 pm
Well, for one, they don't have to "physically" answer a captcha question - a minor nit.

The answer is image recognition, just like you can make a scan of a paper and have it turn into editable words on your computer screen they use that technology to a further extreme. That's why in some captcha's you see all kinds of wavy lines and distortions that make it a pain in the ass for a human to read, it also makes it hard for a computer to read -- except computers are now better at reading them than humans are.
I had to ask, didn't I! :shock: :shock:
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Leo Lyons wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:48 pm
bannination wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:27 pm
Well, for one, they don't have to "physically" answer a captcha question - a minor nit.

The answer is image recognition, just like you can make a scan of a paper and have it turn into editable words on your computer screen they use that technology to a further extreme. That's why in some captcha's you see all kinds of wavy lines and distortions that make it a pain in the ass for a human to read, it also makes it hard for a computer to read -- except computers are now better at reading them than humans are.
I had to ask, didn't I! :shock: :shock:
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bannination wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:50 pm
Leo Lyons wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:48 pm
bannination wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:27 pm
Well, for one, they don't have to "physically" answer a captcha question - a minor nit.

The answer is image recognition, just like you can make a scan of a paper and have it turn into editable words on your computer screen they use that technology to a further extreme. That's why in some captcha's you see all kinds of wavy lines and distortions that make it a pain in the ass for a human to read, it also makes it hard for a computer to read -- except computers are now better at reading them than humans are.
I had to ask, didn't I! :shock: :shock:
See if I ask you anything else!
Never ask unless you really want to know. :mrgreen:
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Why isn't Jr. orange like his father?

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:41 am
Why isn't Jr. orange like his father?
My guess is he's the offspring of one of Trump's numerous encounters with women that aren't his wife, but I could be wrong......

Oh, George Carlin also said "Consider how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of them are stupider than that."

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is it typical for employers to pay people who quit to go to work for the president?


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/discl ... spartandhp


"The report was given to CNBC after dozens of requests to the Office of Government Ethics."

"White House press secretary Sarah Huckleberry Sanders, Shine and a spokesman for 21st Century Fox did not return requests for comment." - quoted with spelling correction


could be, but seems a bit conflicted

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Shines was run off, thus the severance in settlement of whatever his contract might have said. The other funds - bonus, stock, whatever - would have been considered earned income not subject to forfeiture other than for some gross malfeasance, that they never proved.

Sometimes getting rid of a slimeball is expensive, but almost always worth it.

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I read that the Carolina election fraud Congressional candidate pulled a fire alarm to avoid questions from reporters.

Aren't people arrested for setting off fire alarms in order to create distractions?

Why hasn't the Carolina congressman elect been arrested?

A 16 year old black or poor kid would be sitting in jail for the same offense.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:01 am
I read that the Carolina election fraud Congressional candidate pulled a fire alarm to avoid questions from reporters.

:D I hadn't, thanks.
North Carolina Republican sets off fire alarm while fleeing questions about elections fraud


Aren't people arrested for setting off fire alarms in order to create distractions?
... Afterwards, he made a beeline out of the building as fast as he could to evade WSOC-TV Channel 9 reporter Joe Bruno’s questions. Racing through to get out the back door, Harris set off the fire alarm of an emergency exit.
Idk if that's illegal. I may have done that a time or two way back when.

Why hasn't the Carolina congressman elect been arrested?

We can hope.

A 16 year old black or poor kid would be sitting in jail for the same offense.

A 16 year old black or poor kid could be sitting in jail for no offense.
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Interesting. Texas even has a special tougher law for children than for adults.


"In the Texas Penal Code, a false alarm offense - which includes setting off a fire alarm or making a false 9-1-1 call - is a Class A misdemeanor, unless it involves a public school. Then the charge automatically becomes a state jail felony offense, punishable by 180 days to two years in jail and a fine up to $10,000."

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NC law

https://codes.findlaw.com/nc/chapter-14 ... 4-286.html


"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to wantonly and willfully give or cause to be given, or to advise, counsel, or aid and abet anyone in giving, a false alarm of fire, or to break the glass key protector, or to pull the slide, arm, or lever of any station or signal box of any fire-alarm system, except in case of fire"


It would appear that not only the congressional voter fraud guy but his aid and abetter cohorts in crime should all be arrested.

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Ah, they'd just say it was fire alarm fraud.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:39 am
NC law

https://codes.findlaw.com/nc/chapter-14 ... 4-286.html

"It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to wantonly and willfully give or cause to be given, or to advise, counsel, or aid and abet anyone in giving, a false alarm of fire, or to break the glass key protector, or to pull the slide, arm, or lever of any station or signal box of any fire-alarm system, except in case of fire"

It would appear that not only the congressional voter fraud guy but his aid and abetter cohorts in crime should all be arrested.
North Carolina General Statutes Chapter 14. Criminal Law § 14-286. Giving false fire alarms;  molesting fire-alarm, fire-detection or fire-extinguishing system

I'm not positive that door exit alarms are technically fire-alarms. If they were, you would think that the law would make it more clear. Maybe the reporter screwed up in calling it a fire-alarm. Here are some pics of door exit alarms, none of them say "fire".
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm ... xyQ#imgrc=_

I absolutely agree that "molesting fire-alarm, fire-detection or fire-extinguishing system" should be illegal, ewww. :D
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I keep seeing headlines and lnf type freak-outs over this Smollett guy making a false police report.

I also remember a smattering of stories a week or so later about some big shot right winger doing the same.

The Smollett stories are still big news but I've heard nothing more on the rightwinger.

I can't find anything on this, does anyone remember his name?

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:25 am
I keep seeing headlines and lnf type freak-outs over this Smollett guy making a false police report.

I also remember a smattering of stories a week or so later about some big shot right winger doing the same.

The Smollett stories are still big news but I've heard nothing more on the rightwinger.

I can't find anything on this, does anyone remember his name?
Doesn't ring a bell. I did post about this a month ago:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=406&p=93063&hilit=n ... xas#p93063
Vrede too wrote:
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No Jail For Texas Teen Who Lied About Being Raped By 3 Black Men

White girl falsely accuses blacks in North Texas = No jail time.
I guarantee that if Jussie Smollett had committed his alleged (probable) crime in North Texas he would go to prison.
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