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It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:17 pm

Turns out that you can yell, "Fire!" in a crowed theater.
Man shouts 'Heil Hitler' at Baltimore theater, causing panic

A man laced the atmosphere of a Baltimore theater with menace when he began shouting "Heil Hitler! Heil Trump!" during intermission of a classic play set in a Jewish village in czarist Russia. The patron's pro-Nazi and pro-Trump outburst during a Wednesday night production of "Fiddler on the Roof" sent panicked people running for the exits.

Rich Scherr, a technology and financial journalist who was one of over 1,000 people attending the Wednesday night performance at Baltimore's Hippodrome Theatre, said a man seated in the balcony was behind the commotion. He described stunned audience members initially freezing in confusion and fear when the man began shouting minutes into the intermission.

"Everything just got really, really quiet. And then I heard this guy screaming: "Heil Hitler! Heil Trump!" he said in a Thursday phone interview. Other patrons told him they also heard the man yell about "MAGA," President Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan.

A few dozen people started running for the exits, according to Scherr, while others began calling out for security. Scherr said he braced for the possibility of gun violence in the packed theater. "You don't want to think the worst, but I was preparing to react in case of gunfire," he said.

The theater scare comes a few weeks after a gunman fatally shot 11 people inside a Pittsburgh synagogue. The suspect in that shooting, Robert Bowers, 46, expressed hatred of Jews during the rampage and later told police that "all these Jews need to die," authorities said. It also comes days after the FBI released a report showing a 17 percent spike in U.S. hate crimes in 2017 —with a 37 percent increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes....

After several minutes, the offending theatergoer was escorted out of the Baltimore theater by security and the show continued without incident after the intermission ended. The Baltimore police said officers did respond to the Hippodrome at 9:40 p.m. Wednesday, but no arrest was made and the man was allowed to leave on his own.

"Though reprehensible, the man's words are considered protected free speech because he did not directly threaten anyone," said Matt Jablow, a spokesman for the Baltimore Police Department.

In a police report made public Thursday evening, hours after the story made waves, police said the man told officers he was actually motivated to shout out salutes to Hitler and Trump because of his disdain for the president. Officers said the man, identified as Anthony Derlunas, 58, told them he'd been "drinking heavily throughout the night." Law enforcers found he was not a threat to public safety....
Even if he's anti-POSPOTUS, he's an idiot.
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:42 pm

As the rightwing apologists always say, it's only a few - what's the big deal



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/au ... page=2They




"39 members of the Unforgiven and United Aryan Brotherhood gangs were charged with various federal firearms and drug violations.

Authorities seized more than 100 illegal firearms, a rocket launcher and several pipe bombs"
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Unread post by O Really » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:37 pm

Heros.
Cab/Uber drivers refuse to pick up nazis...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cab-drivers- ... 13038.html

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Heros.
Cab/Uber drivers refuse to pick up nazis...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cab-drivers- ... 13038.html
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Fascists tried to take off in two ubers and a taxi but no one will take them, because we keep telling the drivers who they are. This cab driver just kicked them out of his car.

A cop threatened to cite us all if we keep telling drivers that their fares are nazis #pushback
... Philadelphia police did not immediately respond to HuffPost’s request for comment about Snyder’s claim that anti-racists were threatened with a citation.
Fascist, 1st Amendment-ignorant cop, ironic.
The Proud Boys were dealt a blow earlier this week when member Andrew Kovalic was fired from his decade-long job at Comcast after it was revealed he was part of the white supremacist movement.

“There’s no place for disrespectful, offensive behavior in our culture,” the company told Philadelphia magazine. “The individual is no longer employed by Comcast.”
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Unread post by O Really » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:46 pm

Ok, here ya' go - it's official: a Black guy cannot ever be the "good guy with a gun" who takes out his weapon to protect himself and those around him.

"Bradford's father said his son was a 21-year-old Army veteran with a permit to carry a weapon. The statement police released early Monday suggested Bradford shouldn't have pulled it out.

"We can say with certainty Mr. Bradford brandished a gun during the seconds following the gunshots, which instantly heightened the sense of threat to approaching police officers responding to the chaotic scene," the statement from the city of Hoover and its police department says."


Without regard to Bradford's race, however, somebody ought to print that statement every time some NRA nut talks about needing more people with guns in public places.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:38 pm

"Without regard to Bradford's race" is crucial.

The cops and the NRA both know that the statement really means: "We can say with certainty that black Mr. Bradford brandished a gun during the seconds following the gunshots, which instantly heightened the sense of threat to approaching police officers responding to the chaotic scene."

Again, it's glaring that they're not saying that he did anything threatening, refused orders, pointed the gun at them, etc. They always do other times, even when it's a lie.
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Unread post by O Really » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:29 am

Cops have said for a long time that they don't want a bunch of amateurs running around waving guns on the scene of a shooting. But every once in a while some "good" guy actually manages to shoot a "bad" guy and that just gives the whole NRA argument more wind. I'm sorry Bradford (or anybody) got killed, but it would have made a bigger impression on the gun nuts if he'd been a white guy. The gun nuts already support guns only for white people anyway. But probably even if Bradford had been white, the gun nuts would just throw the cops under the bus for being incompetent and not acknowledge that it's dangerous to hold a gun in your hand when cops are looking for a shooter.

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It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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HuffPost: A Prominent White Supremacist Is An EMT In Virginia. Now The State Is Investigating Him..
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wh ... SSTAND0001

"McNabb, 35, is a frequent co-host of “The Daily Shoah,” a popular neo-Nazi podcast. On the show he regularly tells stories about being an EMT, often referring to patients by racist slurs and comparing black patients to animals."

McNabb ia an EMT in Patrick County, Virginia
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:33 am
HuffPost: A Prominent White Supremacist Is An EMT In Virginia. Now The State Is Investigating Him..
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wh ... SSTAND0001

"McNabb, 35, is a frequent co-host of “The Daily Shoah,” a popular neo-Nazi podcast. On the show he regularly tells stories about being an EMT, often referring to patients by racist slurs and comparing black patients to animals."

McNabb ia an EMT in Patrick County, Virginia
After being told that he is being investigated by the Virginia Department of Health’s Office of Emergency Medical Services, I wondered about his employer and why he hasn't been fired already. It's very late in the article that I found:

“Alex McNabb, to my knowledge, is a paid employee with Jeb Stuart Volunteer Rescue."

Well, that sure answered my question. J. E. B. Stuart

"The captain of the Jeb Stuart Volunteer Rescue, Derek Wagner, did not return repeated requests for comment regarding McNabb’s employment."

Figures.

Jeb Stuart Volunteer Rescue Squad website.
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If you like racist you’ll love their white supremacy EMT Alex McNabb ! He’s the whitest Jew and African hating EMT they got!
Spearoniza Williams and Nantzin Baje like this.
The likes of Alex McNabb belong in retail. The worst he could do there is cause a slow check out line for all us undesirables.
Get rid of that McNabb please. Your organization is better than him.
What does it say about an organization that continues to employ a racist EMT? Do the right thing and fire him
The oldest is just 3 hours, they may be regularly deleting criticism.

I haven't decided whether to write or not. I suspect that he will be fired or lose his license soon enough and it may be good to let the Squad stew in their own bigoted inaction until it happens.
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Jury recommends life in prison plus 419 years for Charlottesville car attacker

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... The 10 charges Fields faced in this trial in the Charlottesville City Circuit Court are separate from the 30 federal charges he faces that relate to hate crimes. One of those federal charges is eligible for the death penalty. He entered a not guilty plea in both the Circuit Court case and to the federal charges....
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:43 am

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/white ... -refugees/

Miller has found more "Illegals". No matter that they have been here 30, 40, even 50 years, no matter that they have children and grandchildren born here, no matter that they have contributed to society, no matter that we killed millions of their country men and ripped their country apart - illegals gotta go.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:43 am
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/white ... -refugees/

Miller has found more "Illegals". No matter that they have been here 30, 40, even 50 years, no matter that they have children and grandchildren born here, no matter that they have contributed to society, no matter that we killed millions of their country men and ripped their country apart - illegals gotta go.
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How Trump Is Stripping Immigrants of Their Citizenship
On the 99th anniversary of Emma Goldman’s deportation, the Trump administration is using the same tactics to expel US citizens.



This may be the worst slaver/traitor participation trophy:
Executed for committing war crimes — then honored with a Confederate monument.

Captain Henry Wirz took command of a Confederate prisoner-of-war camp in Andersonville, Georgia, in 1864....
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Vrede too wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:58 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:43 am
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/white ... -refugees/

Miller has found more "Illegals". No matter that they have been here 30, 40, even 50 years, no matter that they have children and grandchildren born here, no matter that they have contributed to society, no matter that we killed millions of their country men and ripped their country apart - illegals gotta go.
Citizens too, now:

How Trump Is Stripping Immigrants of Their Citizenship
On the 99th anniversary of Emma Goldman’s deportation, the Trump administration is using the same tactics to expel US citizens.



This may be the worst slaver/traitor participation trophy:
Executed for committing war crimes — then honored with a Confederate monument.

Captain Henry Wirz took command of a Confederate prisoner-of-war camp in Andersonville, Georgia, in 1864....
I've toured there and Auschwitz. Both are horrible.

There's a lot of "grey" area around the andersonville story. Some of the "war crimes" are due to the South's losing toward the end and an inability to feed prisoners or guards,
unlike the horrendous death rates and outright war crimes at Camp Douglas where prisoners we're mistreated more for the hell of it.

Wars suck, but we still praise Lincoln for starting that one - even as we continue to fight it 150 years later
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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:40 pm

billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:33 am
I've toured there and Auschwitz. Both are horrible.

Andersonville, Dachau, Neuengamme, and Alcatraz for me.

There's a lot of "grey" area around the andersonville story. Some of the "war crimes" are due to the South's losing toward the end and an inability to feed prisoners or guards,

Yep, though not an excuse to me.

unlike the horrendous death rates and outright war crimes at Camp Douglas where prisoners we're mistreated more for the hell of it.

Yep, though the degree is disputed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Douglas_(Chicago)
Much worse: Elmira Prison.


Wars suck, but we still praise Lincoln for starting that one - even as we continue to fight it 150 years later

I don't cut Lincoln as much slack as many, but he started the war?
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