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I still like: "I take no responsibility."
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Vrede too wrote:
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I still like: "I take no responsibility."
Tough choice!
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did you notice that Boof and friends disenfranchised a million Florida voters today

https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ ... index.html

The 5 didn't even give an explanation

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:59 pm
did you notice that Boof and friends disenfranchised a million Florida voters today

https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ ... index.html

The 5 didn't even give an explanation
Yeah, it sucks that your 2:1 vote has been watered down. They usually don't explain when allowing a lower court ruling to stand. The written dissent by 3 justices - Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan - is a little unusual.

Let's also give credit to:
"the GOP-led Florida Legislature"
Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis
"Secretary of State Laurel Lee, also a Republican"
The Eleventh Circuit

"The appellate court set a hearing for the case on August 18 -- the same day as Florida's primary elections."

Apparently, it's unlikely to rule one way or the other by Nov 3.

"The unsigned order likely means the law will be in effect for the November election, although the court did not declare the law to be unconstitutional or limit ongoing court challenges."

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Dems should quickly GoFundMe the outstanding fines and fees.
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Dunno if it means anything or not, but right-wing-trumper-loon Cathy McMorris Rogers, whose congressional district covers a fair chunk of eastern Washington has been running ads where she portrays herself as a very reasonable person, interested in veterans affairs, etc. and with no mention whatsoever of Trump or any real issue of current importance.

She won a few terms ago with 65%, then 60%, then 55% and in the last election had to scrap hard in a primary.

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Dunno if it means anything or not, but right-wing-trumper-loon Cathy McMorris Rogers, whose congressional district covers a fair chunk of eastern Washington has been running ads where she portrays herself as a very reasonable person, interested in veterans affairs, etc. and with no mention whatsoever of Trump or any real issue of current importance.

She won a few terms ago with 65%, then 60%, then 55% and in the last election had to scrap hard in a primary.
Let us know what happened in Nov, please.



Challenger Jamaal Bowman has defeated longtime Rep. Eliot Engel in the Democratic primary for New York's 16th Congressional District (56-40), The Associated Press projects.

The victory by the education advocate and former middle school principal is a win for New York's progressive movement, coming two years after Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez topped another longtime Democrat in a neighboring district. And Bowman's victory reflects a surge in support in recent weeks for some younger, more diverse progressive candidates....

Engel currently serves as chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and has held the seat for 31 years.

Both candidates received high-profile endorsements that split over ideological lines within the Democratic Party.

Bowman gained support from progressive leaders including Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, along with Ocasio-Cortez. Engel was endorsed by Hillary Clinton, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California, along with the Congressional Black Caucus....
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The DNC has now officially been moved entirely online. All delegates and even congresspersons have been told to not make flight reservations. I wonder if the sacrifice will help Dems in WI or if the money loss will hurt them.
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Surging Democrats expand Senate targets to GOP states

It's come to this for Republicans straining to defend their Senate majority in November's elections: They're air-dropping millions of dollars into races in Alabama, Kentucky and other red states where Donald Trump coasted during his 2016 presidential election triumph....

And while it's early and well-known senators can differentiate themselves from an unpopular president atop their ticket, Democrats are defending just 12 Senate seats this November to Republicans' 23. The GOP controls the Senate 53-47....

Democrats have at least a puncher’s chance of grabbing Republican-held seats in four states Trump won by double digits: Alaska, Kansas, Kentucky and South Carolina. They have an even shot at ousting GOP Sen. Steve Daines in Montana, which Trump carried by 20 percentage points, and long-shot hopes of retaining their most endangered senator, Doug Jones of Alabama, where Trump won by 28 points.

Republican incumbents face legitimate challenges for two Senate seats in Georgia and difficult fights in Arizona and North Carolina, all where Trump won narrowly. In two states Trump won by 9 points, Iowa GOP Sen. Joni Ernst faces a tough Democratic opponent in businesswoman Theresa Greenfield, while Republican Sen. John Cornyn is on alert against a Texas upset....

Although dollars don't always translate into votes, campaign reports filed this week show surging Democratic fundraising in solidly Republican terrain.

Jones' $18 million haul in Alabama more than quadruples the amount raised by his Republican opponent, Tommy Tuberville, a former Auburn football coach. That's prompted One Nation, a group allied with McConnell, to line up $3.2 million on ads helping Tuberville, with the conservative Club for Growth planning $1.3 million more....

The two McConnell-friendly groups are even aiming $15 million at Kentucky to help him fend off an uphill challenge from Democrat Amy McGrath. The $47 million she has raised so far, aided by Democratic contributors' antipathy to McConnell's work with Trump, is tops in the country and surpasses McConnell's $38 million.

Even in Kansas, which hasn't elected a Democratic senator since before World War II, a group with ties to state and national Republicans plans to spend $3 million to prevent the polarizing Kris Kobach from winning the party's Senate nomination. Top Republicans fear a Kobach nomination could mean victory for Democrat Barbara Bollier, who's collected more cash than the three GOP contenders combined.

The two McConnell-allied groups are preparing to spend $22 million to help GOP Sen. David Perdue against Democrat Ossoff in Georgia, where Republican advantages among suburban voters have eroded. An expensive battle is brewing over Ernst's Iowa seat, with outside Democratic and GOP groups each planning to spend over $20 million.

Other robust Democratic fundraisers include Mark Kelly in Arizona and Jaime Harrison in South Carolina. Kelly has a solid chance of defeating GOP Sen. Martha McSally while Harrison is waging an unlikely drive to oust Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally....

Republicans are eyeing Alaska, where GOP Sen. Dan Sullivan's likely opponent is Al Gross, an independent with Democratic support. The sprawling state is difficult to poll and populated by notoriously free-spirited voters, and Gross, a doctor, has already spent $700,000 of his own money on his campaign.

Scott Kendall, a Republican consultant, predicted Sullivan will win. But, he cautioned, 2020 is “the weirdest year any of us have seen.”
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Surging Democrats expand Senate targets to GOP states

It's come to this for Republicans straining to defend their Senate majority in November's elections: They're air-dropping millions of dollars into races in Alabama, Kentucky and other red states where Donald Trump coasted during his 2016 presidential election triumph....

And while it's early and well-known senators can differentiate themselves from an unpopular president atop their ticket, Democrats are defending just 12 Senate seats this November to Republicans' 23. The GOP controls the Senate 53-47....

Democrats have at least a puncher’s chance of grabbing Republican-held seats in four states Trump won by double digits: Alaska, Kansas, Kentucky and South Carolina. They have an even shot at ousting GOP Sen. Steve Daines in Montana, which Trump carried by 20 percentage points, and long-shot hopes of retaining their most endangered senator, Doug Jones of Alabama, where Trump won by 28 points.

Republican incumbents face legitimate challenges for two Senate seats in Georgia and difficult fights in Arizona and North Carolina, all where Trump won narrowly. In two states Trump won by 9 points, Iowa GOP Sen. Joni Ernst faces a tough Democratic opponent in businesswoman Theresa Greenfield, while Republican Sen. John Cornyn is on alert against a Texas upset....

Although dollars don't always translate into votes, campaign reports filed this week show surging Democratic fundraising in solidly Republican terrain.

Jones' $18 million haul in Alabama more than quadruples the amount raised by his Republican opponent, Tommy Tuberville, a former Auburn football coach. That's prompted One Nation, a group allied with McConnell, to line up $3.2 million on ads helping Tuberville, with the conservative Club for Growth planning $1.3 million more....

The two McConnell-friendly groups are even aiming $15 million at Kentucky to help him fend off an uphill challenge from Democrat Amy McGrath. The $47 million she has raised so far, aided by Democratic contributors' antipathy to McConnell's work with Trump, is tops in the country and surpasses McConnell's $38 million.

Even in Kansas, which hasn't elected a Democratic senator since before World War II, a group with ties to state and national Republicans plans to spend $3 million to prevent the polarizing Kris Kobach from winning the party's Senate nomination. Top Republicans fear a Kobach nomination could mean victory for Democrat Barbara Bollier, who's collected more cash than the three GOP contenders combined.

The two McConnell-allied groups are preparing to spend $22 million to help GOP Sen. David Perdue against Democrat Ossoff in Georgia, where Republican advantages among suburban voters have eroded. An expensive battle is brewing over Ernst's Iowa seat, with outside Democratic and GOP groups each planning to spend over $20 million.

Other robust Democratic fundraisers include Mark Kelly in Arizona and Jaime Harrison in South Carolina. Kelly has a solid chance of defeating GOP Sen. Martha McSally while Harrison is waging an unlikely drive to oust Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, a close Trump ally....

Republicans are eyeing Alaska, where GOP Sen. Dan Sullivan's likely opponent is Al Gross, an independent with Democratic support. The sprawling state is difficult to poll and populated by notoriously free-spirited voters, and Gross, a doctor, has already spent $700,000 of his own money on his campaign.

Scott Kendall, a Republican consultant, predicted Sullivan will win. But, he cautioned, 2020 is “the weirdest year any of us have seen.”
Fingers crossed, democrats have historically been able to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. Just keep doing what they're doing and let the pubs defeat themselves.
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OMG, western north Carolina is running a literal child for Congress.

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Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:22 pm


Four more years ¿
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:04 pm
I still like: "I take no responsibility."
Tough choice!
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I'm pretty sure Sarah could report "scientists have proven the earth to be flat and currently populated with dinosaurs" and keep a straight face.

Even if one believed her evaluation of Trump's inner workings, it's bad advice for him to say "I'm doing everything I can" when he should be detailing what he's doing and what the plan is. As if.
Funny, I was just listening earlier to what I assume is a "major" Biden speech that included a detailed plan to help struggling people. His empathy and compassion came through loud and clear without patting himself on the back.
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Scaramucci: 'Biden is actually more of a Republican than President Trump'

That may be true, Anthony, but I’m not sure that it’s helpful to Biden to say it out loud.

'Tossup in Texas': Biden leads Trump by one point in Lone Star State, according to new poll

I won't predict or even hope for a Biden win in Texas, but if it's still in play in October Biden is POTUS.
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Trump cancels in-person Republican convention in Jacksonville, Florida

:---P Less than a month for revised planning.
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The clusterfuck continues.
Looking like there's not going to much of a convention in Jacksonville either.

https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-fear ... 02939.html
Meanwhile, the Dems will smoothly do what they've been planning for two months now. If he wins, Biden will owe Gov Cooper, the state health director and the Charlotte mayor bigly.
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TV news:
57% of Floridians disapprove of the DeSantis pandemic response.
59% of Floridians disapprove of the PINO pandemic response.

I know that DeSantis is not up for reelection, but Floridians will be voting on many other Repugs.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:16 pm
TV news:
57% of Floridians disapprove of the DeSantis pandemic response.
59% of Floridians disapprove of the PINO pandemic response.

I know that DeSantis is not up for reelection, but Floridians will be voting on many other Repugs.
Not so much up here. I can vote for gaetz or the losing dem or write-in Bugs Bunny. No president, governor or senator, just matt by 10+

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Not so much up here. I can vote for gaetz or the losing dem or write-in Bugs Bunny. No president, governor or senator, just matt by 10+
:( That sucks. Any other statewide races like AG, Educ, etc?

'We are living in fear': Florida health department workers write to DeSantis after several employees test positive

I would excerpt, but the entire article damns DeSantis and his admin*.
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I remember posting good things about her way back when.
Nikki Haley's 'Groveling' Claim About Donald Trump Leaves People Bewildered

...
He turned our economy and foreign policy around in that everyone lost their jobs and then the world said Americans aren't allowed.
This lady is the Ted Cruz of Lindsey Grahams. Phony. Awful.
The depths of degradation to which power-hungry, racist Republicans are willing to sink for this ludicrous fraction of a human being never ceases to appall me. #votetheGOPintoextinction #NikkiHaley
"Turned our economy around" in two charts.

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We know how badly trump hated to cancel, but no one was going to show up because they didn’t want to get CV-19. You’ve become quite the embarrassment.
According to Trump It's NOT safe enough for Trump and the GOP to hold its convention for 4 days in Jacksonville but it is SAFE enough for our children and teachers to be crowded into classrooms five days a week for 6 hours a day. #Selfless #NikkiHaley
She is certainly right about one thing. Trump inherited a prosperous economy and turned it around.
This kind of groveling might even be too embarrassing for @scottwalker.

Just kidding.
Lots more tweets at link.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:59 pm
did you notice that Boof and friends disenfranchised a million Florida voters today

https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ ... index.html

The 5 didn't even give an explanation
Yeah, it sucks that your 2:1 vote has been watered down. They usually don't explain when allowing a lower court ruling to stand. The written dissent by 3 justices - Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagan - is a little unusual.

Let's also give credit to:
"the GOP-led Florida Legislature"
Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis
"Secretary of State Laurel Lee, also a Republican"
The Eleventh Circuit

"The appellate court set a hearing for the case on August 18 -- the same day as Florida's primary elections."

Apparently, it's unlikely to rule one way or the other by Nov 3.

"The unsigned order likely means the law will be in effect for the November election, although the court did not declare the law to be unconstitutional or limit ongoing court challenges."

:thumbdown:

Dems should quickly GoFundMe the outstanding fines and fees.
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LeBron James group to donate $100,000 toward paying Florida ex-felons' fines so they can vote
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https://news.yahoo.com/poll-biden-leads ... 00617.html

Great news about the Senate race. AZ would be an important pickup in the effort to get a Dem majority. If AZ is still in play for Biden in October I think he is POTUS.
The Reagan Foundation Wants Nothing To Do With Trump's Fundraising Appeals

The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute has demanded that President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign and the Republican National Committee stop using the 40th president’s image and name for fundraising.

The complaint involved a fundraising email that offered commemorative coins featuring the late president and Donald Trump, implying an important link between the men.

“We own the likeness of President Reagan and they used his image for a coin without our consent,” Melissa Giller, chief marketing officer for the foundation, told The Hill. “We called the RNC and asked them to cease and desist the use of President Reagan on the coin, and they agreed.”

Foundation officials were moved to action after a Trump fundraising email went out last week with the subject line, “Ronald Reagan and Yours Truly.” ...
PINO is a thief, again.
... Earlier this month, the Republican Voters Against Trump group used excerpts from Reagan’s “A Vision For America” speech to make a case against Trump. Reagan’s words were juxtaposed with recent news footage to create a damning indictment of the Trump presidency. (Check out the video up top.)

In May, the “never Trump” Republican Lincoln Project also used excerpts from Reagan’s hopeful 1984 reelection ad “Morning in America” to contrast against what it characterized as “Mourning in America” under Trump.
No mention of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation objecting. :---P
Boris Johnson's government is privately 'desperate' for Trump to lose the election to Joe Biden

... "A lot of stuff will change if Biden wins," the diplomat said.

"The venal corruption of the Trump family and the nasty narcissistic aspects of his behavior — all that will go with a different sort of president," they said....
:thumbup: Too nasty for Boris is really saying something.
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Cook Political Report:
Almost 100 Days Out, Democrats Are Favored to Take Back the Senate

Tons of data and analysis.
July Ratings Changes:

Arizona: Martha McSally (R) — Toss Up → Lean D
Iowa: Joni Ernst (R) — Lean R → Toss Up
Georgia: David Perdue (R) — Lean R → Toss Up
Minnesota: Tina Smith (D) — Likely D → Solid D
New Mexico: OPEN (Udall) — Likely D → Solid D
Georgia!
Democratic candidates have the fundraising momentum, with challengers crushing virtually every incumbent in a competitive race in the second quarter reports released last week. Party committees and the major outside PACs for each side are also spending heavily, with the most overall invested in North Carolina, a race some Republicans are feeling more pessimistic about.

Which competitive Senate races are shaping up to be the most expensive?

The chart below shows the amount of money the party committees and other major groups have spent in 2020 and have reserved for the fall. Data is provided through July 21.

● 97.4% of Dem spend is offensive.
● 96.6% of GOP spend is defensive.
Chart not copied here, but NC is shaping up to be the costliest at over $42M. Ugh.
Even with a probable loss in Alabama — increasingly the only bright spot for Republicans — that would require the Democrats to flip four seats if Biden wins (and five if he does not), the current map leaves multiple plausible paths for them to a majority.

By looking at the numbers, the battleground becomes clear — Arizona is falling down the list for the GOP to defend, and Colorado is threatening to. If the election were today, Arizona, Colorado and North Carolina stand as the most vulnerable, closely followed by Maine. That leaves what Republicans see as the tipping point states of Montana, Iowa and Georgia. But they have other states they have to watch and worry about, including Kansas, Texas, and even Alaska and South Carolina....

If that trend holds for 2020, as state polling stands now Republicans would be on pace to lose seats in Arizona, Colorado, Maine and North Carolina, according to FiveThirtyEight’s polling averages as of Thursday. Both Iowa and Georgia remain incredibly close with Trump just narrowly ahead. Still, even those first four states would be enough to give Democrats a majority. On the flip side, for Democrats that could make Montana a more difficult gain.

Georgia on Democrats’ Minds (long discussion)
There's also a GA Senate special election which will likely go to a runoff in Jan. GA could flip 2!
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