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Re: 2020 Elections

Unread post by O Really » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:07 pm

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It's an interesting question - which are people more enthusiastic about, the POSPOTUS cult of personality or Repug principles? Idk.

Oh, the hard-core Trumpers are in the cult. But there's not enough of them to get him re-elected. A lesser crazy could attract the non-Trump Republicans (who are currently in hiding, but still exist) as well as some lesser partisans who might be a bit uncomfortable with a Dem, particularly if it's a Progressive Dem. A non-crazy could likely kick ol' Bernie's ass badly, judging by the poll that found 72% don't want a Socialist (whether or not they know what a "Socialist" is) and also don't want an old man.

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Re: 2020 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:49 am

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Ex-Clinton aide: Hillary will run again in 2020

I think I remember rstrong saying in 2014 or 15 that Hillary was a fake candidate meant to draw heat from the other Dems. Is that what's going on this time? I hope she isn't really thinking of running, even for her own sake.
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Bet on Beto? Bongs for Beto?
Idk. He seems great, but I get a little nervous when someone appears out of nowhere and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. I'll sure give him a look, though. Coming as close as he did, IN TEXAS, sure speaks to his potential electability nationwide.

Not Biden, John Kerry, Michael Bloomberg, Tom Steyer, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Avenatti or Hillary....
'I'm Not Running': Hillary Clinton Ends Any Speculation She'll Vie For White House In 2020

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Re: 2020 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:40 pm

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Petition to Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez:

"FOX News is a hate-spewing propaganda network that shills for the Republican Party. Do not legitimize it with a 2020 Democratic presidential debate."
Not signed, though I might in the future. One could argue that it's like taking a dump in your bad neighbor's yard.

Or so I've heard. ;)
DNC ditches Fox News as 2020 primary debate host

Latest Trump Tweet:
Democrats just blocked @FoxNews from holding a debate. Good, then I think I’ll do the same thing with the Fake News Networks and the Radical Left Democrats in the General Election debates!
What an idiot crybaby! I think most Americans would be fine with it if the Repug debates only appeared on Faux Noise, and most lefties would be fine with highlighting that it is state run media . . . or that the POSPOTUS and Repugs are Faux Noise run, whichever. However, POSPOTUS will not be able to control who sponsors the "General Election debates!"


Ex-NY mayor Bloomberg rules out run for US president in 2020

Good, he's too moderate and we don't need another old white guy.
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Re: 2020 Elections

Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:29 am

After all refusing to use fox worked so well for Hillary.
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Re: 2020 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:03 am

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... we don't need another old white guy.
No 2020 White House run for Dem Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio

Not that I have anything against Brown. He's an old school liberal and I've known and respected many of them over the decades. He would probably make an excellent Cabinet member or VP, and can really help the eventual nominee in swing Ohio.
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Re: 2020 Elections

Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:21 pm

Well... Bernie Sanders & Joe Biden are looking to entertain
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      Re: 2020 Elections

      Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:21 am

      Vrede too wrote:
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      neoplacebo wrote:
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      Bet on Beto? Bongs for Beto?
      Idk. He seems great, but I get a little nervous when someone appears out of nowhere and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. I'll sure give him a look, though. Coming as close as he did, IN TEXAS, sure speaks to his potential electability nationwide.

      Not Biden, John Kerry, Michael Bloomberg, Tom Steyer, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Avenatti or Hillary.

      I love Bernie!, but he's even older.

      Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Sherrod Brown, Jeff Merkeley, Kate Brown, Joachim and/or Julian Castro . . .

      Likely Democratic Candidates for POTUS in 2020 [Updated to Reply to Comments]

      Seems chaotic now, but 2019 polling and fundraising will weed out a bunch of posers.
      Former Texas Congressman Beto O'Rourke announces 2020 presidential bid
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      Re: 2020 Elections

      Unread post by O Really » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:07 am

      I think it would be a good idea for Biden and Beto to run as a team, with Biden for Prez and Beto as VP. Built-in succession plan. POTUS-in-Training.

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      Re: 2020 Elections

      Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:52 am

      O Really wrote:
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      I think it would be a good idea for Biden and Beto to run as a team, with Biden for Prez and Beto as VP. Built-in succession plan. POTUS-in-Training.
      Because they're white men and that's the ticket America needs? :P
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      Too old, too curmudgeonly. Good senator, and as a seasonal Vermonter I like him, but I think he was more of a novelty shiny object for people wanting a Hillaryplacement.
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      ... A non-crazy could likely kick ol' Bernie's ass badly, judging by the poll that found 72% don't want a Socialist (whether or not they know what a "Socialist" is) and also don't want an old man.
      I think Biden is too old, too con, too Hillary.
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      Yeah, Beto is a lightweight with only his couple of terms in the House to really count. That's why IMNVHO he had to win his sharply uphill Senate race to get into the field. But he can draw and fire up a crowd, get enthusiasm from youngish people, Hispanics, and those who don't want "more of the same." Too bad about the otherwise lack of cred.
      I agree that Beto is light on credentials, but I can maaaybe get onboard if he's able to ignite passion that others can't.
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      Re: 2020 Elections

      Unread post by O Really » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:15 am

      I think a stand-alone Biden is too old, too, thus the teaming with Beto. And truthfully, I don't care if they're white males or whatever other than somebody who might be able to bring some sense of normalcy back to the government and its relationship with the citizens. I might like less centrist policies personally, but I don't know if it would do anybody any good to just make a wide and rapid swing for one extreme to another. I'm willing to put up with one bland administration just to fix the damage, and then move on to bigger and better plans later. It would be nice to have somebody in office that half the country doesn't hate with a purple rage. Somebody that maybe most everybody could say, "well, I don't agree with everything he does, but he's not bad..." This is not the candidate I would like ordinarily, but we are definitely not in ordinary times.

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      Re: 2020 Elections

      Unread post by O Really » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:37 pm

      Too true!

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      Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:26 pm

      I think the Dems will have a mixed gender and/or race/ethnicity ticket. Someone will rise to the top and then pick a running mate in order to look more "normal" (white male) or to enthuse a particular demographic.
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      ... somebody who might be able to bring some sense of normalcy back to the government and its relationship with the citizens....
      In relative terms Pee Wee Herman would accomplish that.
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      Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:36 am

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      Republican attack on Cohen over paperwork falls flat

      Meadows is my Rep., and I think banni's and GoCubsGo's Rep. He has always been a sleazy, lying idiot, a standout even within the Repug cesspool of sleazy, lying idiocy. Along with billy.pilgrim, we are being tested.

      Meadows also brought up a black woman - a high ranking HUD official with no qualifications other than having been an event planner for the POSPOTUS Klan - to supposedly refute Cohen's charges of Dolt .45 racism. Then, Meadows did all of the talking for her. :roll: I'm embarrassed for everyone.
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      I didn't watch the token black lady escapade, but really, even if she had spoken earnestly and eloquently on how well Trump treated her, or how she personally never saw any racism exhibited by him, it wouldn't offset all the other dozens of documented instances showing him to be a racist. And for Meadows not to realize that even had his stunt "worked" it would be the same as saying "I've got nothing against black people - my favorite basketball teams has black people on it..." - just shows how totally tone deaf and stupid he is. I guess you could blame it on Meadows having formerly been "a Florida man." :lol:
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      Ocasio-Cortez just humiliated Mark Meadows and Wilbur Ross after shredding them in hearing (article)

      Meadows is my Rep. and chair of the RWNJ House Freedom Caucus. I'm so proud I could burst . . . of AOC, not Meadows....
      Meadows must be feeling the heat after so shaming himself this past month. He's already run screeching to his dark money big sister for help.
      Pro-Trump group launching ads supporting Meadows, Jordan

      ... The pro-Trump America First Policies group is launching two television ads this week in support of Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Mark Meadows of North Carolina, the group tells CNN. Both are ardent supporters of the President on Capitol Hill and on the cable news circuit.

      The $100,000 ad buy is a sign that Trump-aligned groups are rewarding those loyal to the President.

      Both congressman come from reliably Republican districts, but that could change. In Ohio, Democratic groups have filed a federal lawsuit that could change the congressional map, and the Supreme Court is scheduled to take up the North Carolina General Assembly’s appeal of a trial court ruling on a gerrymandering case later this month....

      The ads feature video of Meadows and Jordan standing with Trump — literally — and urge supporters to call the Capitol switchboard and thank the congressmen “for protecting America.” The ads also highlight Democratic billionaire Tom Steyer, who has bankrolled millions of dollars of television commercials calling for the President’s impeachment.

      The congressmen, per the ads, “(stand) up to socialists,” noting their votes on regulations and taxes and their support of Trump’s border wall — all themes that the Trump campaign is expected to hammer throughout the 2020 race.

      The ads, which will appear on broadcast and cable networks in Meadows’ and Jordan’s respective districts, will run for one week starting Wednesday.
      I must have been "lucky" enough to see one of the very first airings this morning. America First Policies PAC has former Fox News host and Donald Trump Jr.'s girlfriend Kimberly Guilfoyle serving as vice chairwoman. I could not find the ad on their website, YouTube or by googling yet, but I'm sure it will appear in the next few days. It's even more disgusting than you can imagine.
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