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Re: Presidents* Trump & Putin bromance

Unread post by GoCubsGo » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:45 pm


Russia responds after Pompeo says US won’t recognize Crimea
From CNN’s Emma Burrows
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova responded to US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s testimony that the US “rejects Russia’s attempted annexation of Crimea."

In her response, she pointed to changing policies in past administrations.

Zakharova wrote on her Facebook page that the Iran deal and Paris climate accord were “also recently … official US policy” under the Obama administration. “And then Trump looked at it and reconsidered,” she said.

“We know the value of these ‘fateful declarations,’" she added.
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Re: Presidents* Trump & Putin bromance

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:45 pm

GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:45 pm
:-H :lol:
She got the memo from President* Putin that President* Trump is not sharing with Americans.

After Trump's praise for Putin, Americans deserve to see his tax returns immediately. (Petition to Congress:)

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House Republicans move to impeach deputy attorney general

A group of 11 House Republicans has introduced articles of impeachment against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference and President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign....

The articles were introduced by North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows and Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, frequent critics of the Justice Department. The introduction does not trigger an immediate vote, but Meadows and Jordan could make procedural moves on the House floor that could force a vote late this week or when the House returns from its upcoming five-week recess in September. The House is scheduled to leave for that recess Thursday.
Mark Meadows is my Rep. and chair of the Freedom Caucus.

Some of the others, all extreme cons.:

Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ)
Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA)
Rep. Paul A. Gosar, D.D.S. (R-AZ)
Rep. Jody Hice (R-GA)
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL)
Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-TN)

RESOLUTION
Impeaching Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.


Well, this got real. They must figure that the danger from the investigation outweighs the perception of obstruction. I wonder if they expect to win or if this is just a ploy to try to diminish the investigation's credibility. If the former and they do win, very unlikely, Mueller's firing and shutting down the investigation would come next.

... The last time the House actually voted to impeach an executive branch official other than a president was 1876.
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Unread post by GoCubsGo » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:12 pm

Fuck Meadows.
The House is scheduled to leave Thursday for the five-week recess.
This is theatre a la Queeg designed for the base.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:45 pm

Maybe he was already under scrutiny, but as far as we know Stormy brought the focus on Cohen.
Either way, it created leverage over him.
The campaign finance law violations seem certain, even with a tape of President* Trump conspiring.
Now, Cohen is revealing direct knowledge of President* Trump participating in the collusion with Russia, which will get kicked back to Mueller.
He'll also be outing other people that were in the room, thus putting them in the position of risking perjury.

Samson was brought down by Delilah.
Clinton was nearly brought down by an intern.
President* Trump may literally be brought down by a porn star.
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:26 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... l-portrait

The Colorado state House displays portraits of past presidents. The portraits are paid for through private donations. The hundred thousand for Obama and lil bush was collected during their first 4 months in office, however trump's kettle remains empty after 18 months.
So, somebody fixed it.
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Well, I spoke to the dog, and he said very strongly that he didn't do it.
I don't see any reason why it would be him.

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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:55 am

I see clay and churt. My dog only has it easy, pure sand, but she has hit water - twice. Striking water is a serious turn on for a dog. There is an almost total loss of control.

I am close to the water and my post holes also hit water. The shepherd's work is impressive.
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Unread post by Leo Lyons » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:10 pm

billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:55 am
I see clay and churt. My dog only has it easy, pure sand, but she has hit water - twice. Striking water is a serious turn on for a dog. There is an almost total loss of control.

I am close to the water and my post holes also hit water. The shepherd's work is impressive.
And your dog didn't deny it dug the hole!

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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:32 pm

Leo Lyons wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:10 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:55 am
I see clay and churt. My dog only has it easy, pure sand, but she has hit water - twice. Striking water is a serious turn on for a dog. There is an almost total loss of control.

I am close to the water and my post holes also hit water. The shepherd's work is impressive.
And your dog didn't deny it dug the hole!

Nope, she's down right proud of her hole. We have an agreement: I fill it in and she digs it out. I'm resigned to hoping age will curb her digging, evidently I can't.
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Some Republicans approve of Russia's help in elections

American intelligence officials say Russia is still trying to interfere with U.S. elections, as the November midterms approach. And Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has said he prefers Donald Trump in the White House.

That’s okay with some Republicans, according to a Yahoo Finance/SurveyMonkey poll of 2,509 Americans conducted July 25-27. In the survey, 11% of people who identify as Republican or lean Republican say it’s “appropriate” for Russia to help Republicans keep control of Congress in the upcoming elections. Another 29% say it’s “not appropriate, but wouldn’t be a big deal” for the Russians to help. So combined, 40% of Republicans either approve of Russian interference, or don’t strongly object to it.

It’s illegal for foreign nationals to contribute money or offer any “thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election, at any level of government. Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence (appointed by President Trump), has said consistently that Russia interfered in the 2016 election that put Trump in the White House. He has also said Russian efforts to disrupt U.S. elections are “ongoing.” Virtually nobody in the intelligence community disputes this....
Wow, criminal abettors and traitors.
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Unread post by Leo Lyons » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:38 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:56 pm
Some Republicans approve of Russia's help in elections

American intelligence officials say Russia is still trying to interfere with U.S. elections, as the November midterms approach. And Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has said he prefers Donald Trump in the White House.

That’s okay with some Republicans, according to a Yahoo Finance/SurveyMonkey poll of 2,509 Americans conducted July 25-27. In the survey, 11% of people who identify as Republican or lean Republican say it’s “appropriate” for Russia to help Republicans keep control of Congress in the upcoming elections. Another 29% say it’s “not appropriate, but wouldn’t be a big deal” for the Russians to help. So combined, 40% of Republicans either approve of Russian interference, or don’t strongly object to it.

It’s illegal for foreign nationals to contribute money or offer any “thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election, at any level of government. Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence (appointed by President Trump), has said consistently that Russia interfered in the 2016 election that put Trump in the White House. He has also said Russian efforts to disrupt U.S. elections are “ongoing.” Virtually nobody in the intelligence community disputes this....
Wow, criminal abettors and traitors.
All 2,509 of them! That's picking the fly specks out of the pepper. :o

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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:05 am

Leo Lyons wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:38 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:56 pm
Some Republicans approve of Russia's help in elections

American intelligence officials say Russia is still trying to interfere with U.S. elections, as the November midterms approach. And Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has said he prefers Donald Trump in the White House.

That’s okay with some Republicans, according to a Yahoo Finance/SurveyMonkey poll of 2,509 Americans conducted July 25-27. In the survey, 11% of people who identify as Republican or lean Republican say it’s “appropriate” for Russia to help Republicans keep control of Congress in the upcoming elections. Another 29% say it’s “not appropriate, but wouldn’t be a big deal” for the Russians to help. So combined, 40% of Republicans either approve of Russian interference, or don’t strongly object to it.

It’s illegal for foreign nationals to contribute money or offer any “thing of value” in connection with a U.S. election, at any level of government. Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence (appointed by President Trump), has said consistently that Russia interfered in the 2016 election that put Trump in the White House. He has also said Russian efforts to disrupt U.S. elections are “ongoing.” Virtually nobody in the intelligence community disputes this....
Wow, criminal abettors and traitors.
All 2,509 of them! That's picking the fly specks out of the pepper. :o

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07 ... terms.html


2,509 is more than 1,007


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06 ... imary.html

And even more than 901, but fox claims +/- 3% accuracy

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06 ... bling.html

A poll of 1,001 proves everybody hates Negro football players



I looked at 10 or 12 of their pills and the 1,007 was the most they polled
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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:29 am

billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:05 am
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07 ... terms.html

2,509 is more than 1,007

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06 ... imary.html

And even more than 901, but fox claims +/- 3% accuracy

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06 ... bling.html

A poll of 1,001 proves everybody hates Negro football players

I looked at 10 or 12 of their pills and the 1,007 was the most they polled
Law of large numbers
Opinion poll

Margin of error due to sampling

Polls based on samples of populations are subject to sampling error which reflects the effects of chance and uncertainty in the sampling process. Sampling polls rely on the law of large numbers to measure the opinions of the whole population based only on a subset, and for this purpose the absolute size of the sample is important, but the percentage of the whole population is not important (unless it happens to be close to the sample size). The possible difference between the sample and whole population is often expressed as a margin of error - usually defined as the radius of a 95% confidence interval for a particular statistic.... Others suggest that a poll with a random sample of 1,000 people has margin of sampling error of ±3% for the estimated percentage of the whole population.

A 3% margin of error means that if the same procedure is used a large number of times, 95% of the time the true population average will be within the sample estimate plus or minus 3%. The margin of error can be reduced by using a larger sample, however if a pollster wishes to reduce the margin of error to 1% they would need a sample of around 10,000 people. In practice, pollsters need to balance the cost of a large sample against the reduction in sampling error and a sample size of around 500–1,000 is a typical compromise for political polls....
Nationwide opinion polling for the United States presidential election, 2016

Aggregate polls

Poll numbers verified as of November 8, 2016.

Four-way (Hillary, Dolt .45, Johnson, Stein)

Prediction: Hillary wins national popular vote by 2.8 - 4%
Actual: Hillary wins national popular vote by 2.1%
Trumpettes love to screech that the polls were wrong. In fact, they were quite accurate and well within the margin of error. People interpreting the polls and the confidence they had in their interpretations, including the POSPOTUS team, were wrong.

Surveys have revealed that 20% of the population is too ignorant and/or paranoid to understand the science of polling. Then, a further 20% are so intellectually dishonest that they only believe polls they agree with. 80% of these two groups are Repugs.
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Unread post by O Really » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:05 am

Selection of sample participants is more important than total number. If there is a truly representative sample, then 1,000 is statistically sound. If you sample only loons, you'll get only a loony result even if you poll 100% of them.

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O Really wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:05 am
Selection of sample participants is more important than total number. If there is a truly representative sample, then 1,000 is statistically sound. If you sample only loons, you'll get only a loony result even if you poll 100% of them.
In most polls, it's so evident the pollsters seek out the loons. It more dramatic that way.
Sort of like the people on the street the news reporters interview for a news story.

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Unread post by O Really » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:38 am

Leo Lyons wrote:
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In most polls, it's so evident the pollsters seek out the loons. It more dramatic that way.
Sort of like the people on the street the news reporters interview for a news story.
Maybe the ones that are published as entertainment, but real polling companies make their money by being a reliable source of information for either (a) their clients or (b) the public. A demonstrably faulty poll or result can screw them over for years. Hell, look at the trash Republicans throw at polls that were, for what they were measuring, correct. Think about what would happen to one who got caught intentionally defrauding. (Unless they happened to be Republicans, in which case intentionally defrauding would be expected and rewarded well.)

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Unread post by Leo Lyons » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:42 pm

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Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:38 am
(Unless they happened to be Republicans, in which case intentionally defrauding would be expected and rewarded well.)
:lol: :lol: I love it!

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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:33 pm

Leo Lyons wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:42 pm
O Really wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:38 am
(Unless they happened to be Republicans, in which case intentionally defrauding would be expected and rewarded well.)
:lol: :lol: I love it!
did someone say Rasmussen


the worst of the worst are the text and call in polls done during partisan news - those are about as useful as polls from the College Young Republican Club or the Ebenezer Missionary Baptist Church
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Unread post by O Really » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:30 pm

Yeah, a "survey" isn't the same as a "poll." And counting what people say who click a box or text into a show isn't a poll. But sure, it's human nature to want to deny the awful, to keep up ones hope by saying "the poll is wrong" or standing in the pouring rain with a picnic basket in hand saying "maybe it's just a passing shower."

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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:54 pm

O Really wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:30 pm
Yeah, a "survey" isn't the same as a "poll." ...
What's the difference?

Thesaurus.com says that 'survey' is a synonym for 'poll', but 'poll' is NOT a synonym for 'survey'. :headscratch:

Dictionary.com says that -

'survey' includes: "a sampling, or partial collection, of facts, figures, or opinions taken and used to approximate or indicate what a complete collection and analysis might reveal:
The survey showed the percentage of the population that planned to vote.

'poll' includes: "a sampling or collection of opinions on a subject, taken from either a selected or a random group of persons, as for the purpose of analysis."
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