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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by neoplacebo » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:26 pm

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A family found more than half a million dollars in cocaine on the (Fripp Island, SC) beach during their vacation

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In other news a family was apprehended when they were causing a disturbance by running around town fast with no clothes on.
Man... I never vacation in the right places... last time I went someplace, all I got was sunburned.
I told the wife we should skip Disney and vacation in South Carolina....
After turning in his find to the police the husband proceeded to paint the house, sealcoat the driveway, and mow everyone's lawn on his street with a push mower.
I feel ripped off, last time I went to the beach all I found were some seashells.
Square grouper season is now open. Bag limit is 20 kilos.
Makes me wonder just how many bricks are washing up and being found that are not being reported.
Several years ago a cop jumped out of the plane he was flying with a backpack full of cocaine; the plane crashed into some woods and the cop ended up a wet spot in the driveway of some house in Knoxville or in the immediate area. The cocaine was not harmed. This is why I always thought cocaine was overrated; I just don't like that edge of the seat grit your teeth type feeling.....just can't sit still.....even make you jump out of a plane. At least he had the presence of mind to not let the cocaine stay with the plane. Winning!

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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:23 pm

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Last night’s Democratic debate was a groundbreaking moment in presidential politics. For the first time ever, presidential candidates engaged in a serious discussion on the debate stage about removing criminal penalties for personal use and possession of drugs other than marijuana. Drug Policy Action, as the advocacy and political arm of the Drug Policy Alliance, strongly advocates decriminalizing all drugs and has been instrumental in elevating the issue to the national level.

Decriminalization was brought up in the context of the overdose crisis. Last year, more than 68,000 people lost their lives to a drug overdose. It’s clear we need bold, new solutions like drug decriminalization that can save lives and deliver critical resources and information to the people most at risk of an overdose.

Each year there are 1.4 million arrests for simple drug possession in the U.S.—it is by far the most arrested offense in the country. Decriminalization would reduce arrests and end the many harms that now flow from drug possession convictions, including lifelong barriers to employment, education, housing, and more. It would free up resources to be used in more effective, humane ways, including offering treatment. It would also reduce the stigma of drug use and make it less likely people will be afraid to seek treatment and other support.

Decriminalizing drug use and possession is just one of the bold, new solutions to the overdose crisis that prioritizes health and safety for people who use drugs, rather than punishment. But the underlying causes of the overdose crisis are complicated and there isn’t a simple singular solution.

We also need overdose prevention centers, which were briefly discussed on stage. Also known as supervised consumption services, these facilities offer sterile, controlled settings for people to use pre-obtained drugs under the supervision of trained professionals who can intervene in case of an overdose or other medical event. They also provide health care, counseling, and referrals to health and social services, including drug treatment.

We need access to drug checking kits, especially as recent increases in overdose deaths are driven by synthetic opioids like fentanyl, which is being introduced into the heroin supply without the knowledge of people who use drugs.

We need drug education programs that are based in the philosophy of harm reduction. The Safety First curriculum is designed to foster open and honest conversations among teens, educators, and parents about drugs and drug-related risks like overdose.

We need low-barrier access to methadone and buprenorphine. These therapies cut overdose death risk in half. But the stigma associated with drug use has blocked the widespread adoption of these life-saving treatment options, in addition to policy barriers that make both medications difficult for patients to access.

We need candidates who are serious about reversing the overdose crisis with policies that help people, not handcuff them.

Sincerely,
Grant Smith
Deputy Director, Office of National Affairs
Drug Policy Action
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:52 pm

Trump Golf Club May Lose Liquor License Over Fatal Car Crash

Without opining on the merits of this particular case, it's ironic that anti-drug POSPOTUS is a drug pusher.
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Re: Failed prohibition

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Trump Golf Club May Lose Liquor License Over Fatal Car Crash

Without opining on the merits of this particular case, it's ironic that anti-drug POSPOTUS is a drug pusher.
trump says he's never smoked or drinked, supposedly due to his older brother dying from trying to have a good time and be a trump at the same time. I bet Sarah Sanders has never smoked or got drunk either. But in both cases I figure that's good; just means more for the rest of us.

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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:23 pm

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trump says he's never smoked or drinked, supposedly due to his older brother dying from trying to have a good time and be a trump at the same time. I bet Sarah Sanders has never smoked or got drunk either. But in both cases I figure that's good; just means more for the rest of us.
It also begs the question - What's their excuse then?
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by neoplacebo » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:06 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:23 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:17 pm
trump says he's never smoked or drinked, supposedly due to his older brother dying from trying to have a good time and be a trump at the same time. I bet Sarah Sanders has never smoked or got drunk either. But in both cases I figure that's good; just means more for the rest of us.
It also begs the question - What's their excuse then?
Sarah Sanders is on a mission from god and will not stop no matter what. trump is an associate Jesus slash chosen one. He also will not stop no matter what. I'd personally like to see Sarah hopped up on some fine crank just to see how fast she can move and talk. trump should just start with a serious run of heavy drinking; may improve his oratory.

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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:21 am

Philippine vice president says time for Duterte to halt failed drug war

Uber-repression and mass murder, which POSPOTUS and many cons and LEOs would like to see here in the US, is still a failure, surprise, surprise.
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:28 am

Man caught at Houston airport with 35 pounds of liquid cocaine in shampoo bottles

... The CBP said officers discovered the bottles containing cocaine valued at more than $400,000 in the checked luggage of a 26-year-old Colombian citizen Monday after observing him at baggage claim and conducting a bag search. A K-9 search indicated the presence of narcotics, backed up by testing.

“Our officers are the first line of defense at our ports of entry, so they are trained in the various smuggling methods people use to bring illicit goods into the U.S.,” CBP Port Director Shawn Polley said in the press release. “We take every opportunity to intercept those illicit goods before they enter our communities, in this case, it was 35 pounds of liquid cocaine.”

CPB spokeswoman Yolanda Choates told USA TODAY that the suspect was not arrested or charged before he was sent back. She explained that her agency only presents cases and does not bring charges; it's up to the Department of Justice or local law enforcement to do so....
:confusion-scratchheadblue:

Our highly trained, very experienced, diligent and brilliant U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers were somehow made suspicious by his being Colombian and carrying 35 pounds of shampoo in 24 shampoo bottles. Even then, they almost let him through but noticed that his hair was dirty. I know that I sure never would have caught on.

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Wait, What?! So CBP has the authority to intercept and confiscate illegal narcotics, but not charge the person? Good to know.
Apply, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat
MAN!! I can't even get a 16 oz bottle of lotion through TSA!
WAS IT THE EXCESS AMOUNT THAT MADE SECURITY SUSPICIOUS , OR WAS IT THE FACT HE HAD 35LB OF SHAMPOO AND NO HAIR ?
"dude i’m just Really into my hsir care Bro"
Not the same brand
It's a gateway shampoo.
That's how it starts, next thing you know they'll be going old-school doing Prell full strength.
Lets just hope they stay away from conditioners.
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:52 am

When your anti-drug campaign is designed by drunks:


Meth. We’re on it. South Dakota Meth Prevention Full Commercial 2019

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Seriously? South Dakota Launches 'Meth. We're On It' Anti-Drug Campaign

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... Republican Gov. Kristi Noem launched the campaign to raise awareness about the meth epidemic in South Dakota. The state spent $450,00 for a Minnesota ad agency to come up with the slogan and campaign, reported the Argus Leader. Noem also requested more than $1 million in funding to support treatment services.

But the new slogan is being ridiculed by many and attacked on Twitter in viral hashtags.

Bill Pearce, assistant dean at the Haas School of Business at the University of California, Berkeley, criticized the campaign. “I’m sure South Dakota residents don’t like being laughed at. That’s what’s happening right now,” he told The Washington Post....
The state of South Dakota spent $500k on an ad campaign to let everyone know we’re on meth
.@govkristinoem did South Dakota really just trademark "Meth, We're On It?" What a horrible idea. How many rural rehab centers could you have created with your $449,000 Minneapolis-based ad campaign?
Note to self - Do not have SD help with any future branding campaign.
This is South Dakota's new anti-meth campaign slogan. I do not think it means what they think it means.
Intern: “here’s that ad campaign you wanted.”
Noem: “the one that says we’re on top of the meth problem?”
Intern: “ah”
Nailed it
South Dakota has a history of quirky ad campaigns. In 2015, in a push to lure more residents, the state asked: “Why die on Mars when you can live in South Dakota?” Adweek quipped at the time that the state was setting the “bar low” with a “new ad campaign that basically says, ‘Hey, at least we’re not Mars.’”


You can live in South Dakota.
:wtf: :lol:
In 2014, South Dakota tried to convince people not to turn their steering wheels suddenly to avoid ice or road obstacles with the slogan “Don’t jerk and drive.” It was yanked a short time later....
"yanked" :o :D
#MethWeAreOnIt
Shit if I lived in South Dakota, I think I'd be on it too.
In case anyone’s wondering there is merch. #MethWeAreOnIt @govkristinoem where can I buy some

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Does #MethWeAreOnIt remind anyone else of the “too cool to do drugs” pencil?

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The fact is this cowboy is only 31, strong ad
:lol:
If anyone is looking for a job, one might be opening up ASAP at the South Dakota PR office.
Dear @TheDailyShow et al. Be gentle. We’re not all idiots. I promise.
I fixed Kristi Noem's meth ad, and I won't even charge the state $449,000 to use it.

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What's South Dakotas next great slogan? "Sex trafficking, we're hard on it."
Man, am I proud to be from SD lol

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South Dakota's new public service announcement to battle STDs is now out too

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:clap: :clap: :clap:
If you think #MethWeAreOnIt is bad, just imagine the lines that were rejected.
I mean...did the state of South Dakota need to trademark "Meth. We're on it." Like, they thought someone was going to try and steal it? Also, the official hashtags are cumbersome. #MethWeAreOnIt #ButNotLikeOnItOnIt #MoreLikeGonnaDoSomethingAboutItOnIt #GetIt #HiFromSD
This had to be one they rejected.

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Again, Gov. Kristi Noem is a Repug.

:laughing-rolling: Lots, lots more at the link.
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:41 pm

:lol: We didn't have those pencils when I was in high school, but we certainly had the idea they convey. And I think SD should immediately begin an ad campaign about venereal disease and use that same MN company to roll it out. It should be good.

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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:52 pm

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:41 pm
:lol: We didn't have those pencils when I was in high school, but we certainly had the idea they convey. And I think SD should immediately begin an ad campaign about venereal disease and use that same MN company to roll it out. It should be good.
The Clap, we've got this. (from the twitter link, but I can't find it again)

You can't have STD without SD. (mine)
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:08 pm

Found:
I remember one from the early 70s - "VD, catch it before it catches you."
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Whack9 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:48 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:52 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:41 pm
:lol: We didn't have those pencils when I was in high school, but we certainly had the idea they convey. And I think SD should immediately begin an ad campaign about venereal disease and use that same MN company to roll it out. It should be good.
The Clap, we've got this. (from the twitter link, but I can't find it again)

You can't have STD without SD. (mine)
We put the STD in stud now all we need is U.

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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:41 am

Vrede too wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:52 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:41 pm
:lol: We didn't have those pencils when I was in high school, but we certainly had the idea they convey. And I think SD should immediately begin an ad campaign about venereal disease and use that same MN company to roll it out. It should be good.
The Clap, we've got this. (from the twitter link, but I can't find it again)

You can't have STD without SD. (mine)
Yeah, I was laughing so much about all the other spinoffs of it I forgot all about the "clap" one in the post. My favorite is still the pencils. The CBS news had a story about this ad on their program last night, so the ridicule is pretty intense about it.

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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:49 am

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Yeah, I was laughing so much about all the other spinoffs of it I forgot all about the "clap" one in the post....
Oh, there it is, a HUGE sign rather than text. That's why "Find" didn't work. Thanks, I thought I was going nuts.
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:29 pm

An attempt at progress in spite of Joe Biden and his "gateway drug" nonsense. But I have no doubt the wingnuts and nutjobs in the Senate will prefer drug cartels and crime over common sense in this effort.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/house-judicia ... ories.html

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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:27 am

http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... ay#p105364
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Joe Biden says he would not legalise cannabis over fears it could be gateway drug

This is a problem with having an ancient moderate candidate. The "gateway drug" theory was debunked decades ago. Otoh, pot laws are a gateway to distrust of and disrespect for police, pols and other authorities.
neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:29 pm
An attempt at progress in spite of Joe Biden and his "gateway drug" nonsense. But I have no doubt the wingnuts and nutjobs in the Senate will prefer drug cartels and crime over common sense in this effort.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/house-judicia ... ories.html
Biden Reverses Long-held Stance on Marijuana, Says There’s ‘No Evidence’ It’s a Gateway Drug

Excessive drug use can cause confusion and contradiction.

More seriously, he must have gotten a lot of heat in order to flip-flop so rapidly. :---P
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:06 am

Vrede too wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:27 am
http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... ay#p105364
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:57 am
Joe Biden says he would not legalise cannabis over fears it could be gateway drug

This is a problem with having an ancient moderate candidate. The "gateway drug" theory was debunked decades ago. Otoh, pot laws are a gateway to distrust of and disrespect for police, pols and other authorities.
neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:29 pm
An attempt at progress in spite of Joe Biden and his "gateway drug" nonsense. But I have no doubt the wingnuts and nutjobs in the Senate will prefer drug cartels and crime over common sense in this effort.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/house-judicia ... ories.html
Biden Reverses Long-held Stance on Marijuana, Says There’s ‘No Evidence’ It’s a Gateway Drug

Excessive drug use can cause confusion and contradiction.

More seriously, he must have gotten a lot of heat in order to flip-flop so rapidly. :---P
I could say I sent him a note saying "Joe, that horse is dead, so get off it" along with a small sample of what I call "good medicine" but I won't.

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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:31 am

neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:06 am
I could say I sent him a note saying "Joe, that horse is dead, so get off it" along with a small sample of what I call "good medicine" but I won't.
I could tell because he didn't drop out of the race and admit to inhaling regularly.

That reminds me of how self-defeating Bill Clinton’s weasely claim was. The anti-pot people thought he was stupid for lying and the pro-pot people thought he was stupid for not inhaling. It was one of those rare moments of true national unity.
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Re: Failed prohibition

Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:09 am

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Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:31 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:06 am
I could say I sent him a note saying "Joe, that horse is dead, so get off it" along with a small sample of what I call "good medicine" but I won't.
I could tell because he didn't drop out of the race and admit to inhaling regularly.

That reminds me of how self-defeating Bill Clinton’s weasely claim was. The anti-pot people thought he was stupid for lying and the pro-pot people thought he was stupid for not inhaling. It was one of those rare moments of true national unity.
Yeah, Bill just couldn't seem to open the gate during his lame effort. Personally, I've been stuck with a gateway drug for a little over fifty years. Can't understand it.

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