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3.2 million in legal weed was sold in Illinois on first day, marking a strong showing among states' legalization
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Medical Marijuana Measure Qualifies for Mississippi 2020 Ballot

A measure to legalize medical marijuana in Mississippi has officially qualified for the November ballot. DPA has provided financial support and guidance to the campaign – operated by Mississippians for Compassionate Care – since its inception, including funding for signature gathering and the initial poll that indicated the ballot’s viability.

Under the proposal, patients suffering from 22 qualifying medical issues – including cancer, chronic pain, and post-traumatic stress disorder – would be able to access medical marijuana, after receiving a recommendation to do so from a physician. Patients would be permitted to possess up to 2.5 ounces of marijuana per 14-day period.
"... 2.5 ounces of marijuana per 14-day period." :wtf:
I would never leave the couch, let alone my home. I wonder if this will become a campaign issue.

If this passes, in Mississippi!:

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Criminalizing Drug Sellers Makes Drugs Cheaper And Deadlier, Report Say

Rethinking the "Drug Dealer"

Of course, drug war addicted LEOs and their enablers don't really care about reducing drug use or improving public health, and never have.
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Vrede too wrote:
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3.2 million in legal weed was sold in Illinois on first day, marking a strong showing among states' legalization
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Medical Marijuana Measure Qualifies for Mississippi 2020 Ballot

A measure to legalize medical marijuana in Mississippi has officially qualified for the November ballot. DPA has provided financial support and guidance to the campaign – operated by Mississippians for Compassionate Care – since its inception, including funding for signature gathering and the initial poll that indicated the ballot’s viability.

Under the proposal, patients suffering from 22 qualifying medical issues – including cancer, chronic pain, and post-traumatic stress disorder – would be able to access medical marijuana, after receiving a recommendation to do so from a physician. Patients would be permitted to possess up to 2.5 ounces of marijuana per 14-day period.
"... 2.5 ounces of marijuana per 14-day period." :wtf:
I would never leave the couch, let alone my home. I wonder if this will become a campaign issue.

If this passes, in Mississippi!:

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Criminalizing Drug Sellers Makes Drugs Cheaper And Deadlier, Report Say

Rethinking the "Drug Dealer"

Of course, drug war addicted LEOs and their enablers don't really care about reducing drug use or improving public health, and never have.
2.5 ounces per 14 day period? :shock: That's like twenty times my personal performance. I may have to change my thoughts about Mississippi.

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2.5 ounces per 14 day period? :shock: That's like twenty times my personal performance. I may have to change my thoughts about Mississippi.
Come to think of it, if I was forced to live in Mississippi . . .
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Come to think of it, if I was forced to live in Mississippi . . .
There are a few places, like down by the Gulf, where you might not mind living if you never wanted to leave. But having to drive back into First World states with Mississippi plates on your car would be like constantly walking around with toilet paper on your shoe or your pants busted out.

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Of course, drug war addicted LEOs and their enablers don't really care about reducing drug use or improving public health, and never have.
Nurses are arrested all the time for forging prescriptions. Illegally selling drugs online that they have stolen from healthcare facilities.

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There are a few places, like down by the Gulf, where you might not mind living if you never wanted to leave. But having to drive back into First World states with Mississippi plates on your car would be like constantly walking around with toilet paper on your shoe or your pants busted out.
Yeah, it was hyperbole on my part. One can find a good community of folks even in the worst places.

I would put a rainbow "Diversity" bumpersticker as close as possible to the Mississippi plate.
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2.5 ounces per 14 day period? :shock: That's like twenty times my personal performance. I may have to change my thoughts about Mississippi.
Come to think of it, if I was forced to live in Mississippi . . .
My only experience with MS is about three months of classes at a Navy school at NAS Meridian. And there was more to do on the Naval Station than there was in town as I recall. It seemed to be a very poor and backward area. But five ounces a month has the potential to change a person's thoughts about a lot of things.

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Of course, drug war addicted LEOs and their enablers don't really care about reducing drug use or improving public health, and never have.
Nurses are arrested all the time for forging prescriptions. Illegally selling drugs online that they have stolen from healthcare facilities.
Then there's the crooked lawyers that get them off.

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My only experience with MS is about three months of classes at a Navy school at NAS Meridian. And there was more to do on the Naval Station than there was in town as I recall. It seemed to be a very poor and backward area. But five ounces a month has the potential to change a person's thoughts about a lot of things.
"three months" = about 90 days = 6.4 x 14 days = exactly 1 pound. 8-) :thumbup:
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My only experience with MS is about three months of classes at a Navy school at NAS Meridian. And there was more to do on the Naval Station than there was in town as I recall. It seemed to be a very poor and backward area. But five ounces a month has the potential to change a person's thoughts about a lot of things.
"three months" = about 90 days = 6.4 x 14 days = exactly 1 pound. 8-) :thumbup:
Hmmmm, 2.5 ounces per 14 days is 5 ounces in 28 days. Let's call 28 days a month. At this rate, after 3 months you'd be into it for 15 ounces, one short of a pound. I doubt they will notice, though. I suspect this is the origin of the old saying "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." But I sure would settle for a pound of cure. I will leave the prevention to someone else.

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Hmmmm, 2.5 ounces per 14 days is 5 ounces in 28 days. Let's call 28 days a month. At this rate, after 3 months you'd be into it for 15 ounces, one short of a pound. I doubt they will notice, though. I suspect this is the origin of the old saying "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." But I sure would settle for a pound of cure. I will leave the prevention to someone else.
I went with 30-day months, but still thought I was going to end up with 15 ounces, as you say. Surprise, it does make a pound. If I was high (still or yet), I would not have been able to do this at all ;) .
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Hmmmm, 2.5 ounces per 14 days is 5 ounces in 28 days. Let's call 28 days a month. At this rate, after 3 months you'd be into it for 15 ounces, one short of a pound. I doubt they will notice, though. I suspect this is the origin of the old saying "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." But I sure would settle for a pound of cure. I will leave the prevention to someone else.
I went with 30-day months, but still thought I was going to end up with 15 ounces, as you say. Surprise, it does make a pound. If I was high (still or yet), I would not have been able to do this at all ;) .
The last time I obtained an ounce of prevention it was $400 so that makes a pound of cure $6400. This is the reason the GOP "brain" trust that resides in folks like Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr are reluctant to interfere in this free market stuff. Even though the prices are likely a lot less with legalization, those GOP brain trust folks realized they were getting nothing out of it and it was costing them out the ass when it was illegal. Now that they've realized the potential of this, they have changed their tunes. How about that? It was the same thing with alcohol for the 13 years of prohibition; nobody was making money except the "criminals." They had to put a stop to that. Pot has been illegal in the US since 1937 so it flied in the face of reason that they've neglected this for so long when it only took them 13 years to realize how wrong they were about alcohol.

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The last time I obtained an ounce of prevention it was $400 so that makes a pound of cure $6400. .... Even though the prices are likely a lot less with legalization...
Substantially so. And California has the highest legal prices. You need to relocate, dude.

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The last time I obtained an ounce of prevention it was $400 so that makes a pound of cure $6400. .... Even though the prices are likely a lot less with legalization...
Substantially so. And California has the highest legal prices. You need to relocate, dude.

https://socal-cbd-and-marijuana.busines ... m=referral
Well, that was quite some time ago; nearly ten years. When I first started in this war on drugs, on the side of drugs, one could buy a pound of standard late 60's prevention for about $185. I think I once related the tale of how a friend once bought a 69 Z28 Camaro for $1800 and a pound of prevention. These days a lot has changed, including me, the price of a Z28, and the price and quality of prevention.l

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neoplacebo wrote:
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The last time I obtained an ounce of prevention it was $400 so that makes a pound of cure $6400. .... Even though the prices are likely a lot less with legalization...
Substantially so. And California has the highest legal prices. You need to relocate, dude.

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Well, that was quite some time ago; nearly ten years. When I first started in this war on drugs, on the side of drugs, one could buy a pound of standard late 60's prevention for about $185. I think I once related the tale of how a friend once bought a 69 Z28 Camaro for $1800 and a pound of prevention. These days a lot has changed, including me, the price of a Z28, and the price and quality of prevention.l
Matchbox was $5.00
3 finger lid was $15 to $20
A full lid was $20 to $25

3 finger lids were usually 2 fingers and I never saw pot sold in the prince albert can (lid).


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Matchbox was $5.00
3 finger lid was $15 to $20
A full lid was $20 to $25

3 finger lids were usually 2 fingers and I never saw pot sold in the prince albert can (lid).

Now it comes in pretty glass jars
Inflation since and the smoke is worlds better, but think of all that dope humped through the desert one backpack at a time across the border for just $20 to $25 at the final consumer.
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Delivery is a bit better now. To your door like (or maybe with) a pizza.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:47 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:20 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
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The last time I obtained an ounce of prevention it was $400 so that makes a pound of cure $6400. .... Even though the prices are likely a lot less with legalization...
Substantially so. And California has the highest legal prices. You need to relocate, dude.

https://socal-cbd-and-marijuana.busines ... m=referral
Well, that was quite some time ago; nearly ten years. When I first started in this war on drugs, on the side of drugs, one could buy a pound of standard late 60's prevention for about $185. I think I once related the tale of how a friend once bought a 69 Z28 Camaro for $1800 and a pound of prevention. These days a lot has changed, including me, the price of a Z28, and the price and quality of prevention.l
Matchbox was $5.00
3 finger lid was $15 to $20
A full lid was $20 to $25

3 finger lids were usually 2 fingers and I never saw pot sold in the prince albert can (lid).


Now it comes in pretty glass jars
The progress of civilization has been a lot slower than I used to think it would be.

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The progress of civilization has been a lot slower than I used to think it would be.
In the late 70's I was absolutely convinced that grass would be legal everywhere by the 90's at most. It seemed, at least where I lived, that enforcement was pretty lackadaisical for personal use and that most "everyone" was at least an occasional user or blase about it. States started "decriminalizing" small amounts to misdemeanor or "traffic ticket" type charges. In 70-something, Alaska Supreme Court ruled that possession of small amounts of marijuana is covered under privacy laws. Then movement stalled. Alaska even re-criminalized. Employers started the futile practice of drug testing. And it took a long time, going through the charade of medicinal value, to reach the point where you can get quality stuff delivered legally and safely.

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The progress of civilization has been a lot slower than I used to think it would be.
In the late 70's I was absolutely convinced that grass would be legal everywhere by the 90's at most. It seemed, at least where I lived, that enforcement was pretty lackadaisical for personal use and that most "everyone" was at least an occasional user or blase about it. States started "decriminalizing" small amounts to misdemeanor or "traffic ticket" type charges. In 70-something, Alaska Supreme Court ruled that possession of small amounts of marijuana is covered under privacy laws. Then movement stalled. Alaska even re-criminalized. Employers started the futile practice of drug testing. And it took a long time, going through the charade of medicinal value, to reach the point where you can get quality stuff delivered legally and safely.
It was either 72 or 73 that I was arrested one summer night for possession of pot and possession of open beer. I got a $2 fine for the pot and $25 fine for the beer. And that was here in TN. Fortunately, the regular judge was on vacation and the fill in judge was my uncle.

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