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Re: The Wall

Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm

I am going to make a prediction......I just read a news story about how trump says he won't "cave" on his wall demands. Here's the prediction: if the shutdown last another 30 days or maybe even less, Congress will pass a resolution to open the government, McConnell will have to go along with it, it will pass both houses, trump will veto it, and the Senate will override. May be wishful thinking, but I will stick by it.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by GoCubsGo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:22 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm
I am going to make a prediction......I just read a news story about how trump says he won't "cave" on his wall demands. Here's the prediction: if the shutdown last another 30 days or maybe even less, Congress will pass a resolution to open the government, McConnell will have to go along with it, it will pass both houses, trump will veto it, and the Senate will override. May be wishful thinking, but I will stick by it.
There has to be a real crisis, TSA or air traffic control needs to walk out for a day or two. That's the type of thing needed to get Congress moving.
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Re: The Wall

Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:47 pm

GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:22 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm
I am going to make a prediction......I just read a news story about how trump says he won't "cave" on his wall demands. Here's the prediction: if the shutdown last another 30 days or maybe even less, Congress will pass a resolution to open the government, McConnell will have to go along with it, it will pass both houses, trump will veto it, and the Senate will override. May be wishful thinking, but I will stick by it.
There has to be a real crisis, TSA or air traffic control needs to walk out for a day or two. That's the type of thing needed to get Congress moving.
Well, it'll either be that or the accumulation of uproar over all the gov't workers not being paid.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by bannination » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:19 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm
I am going to make a prediction......I just read a news story about how trump says he won't "cave" on his wall demands. Here's the prediction: if the shutdown last another 30 days or maybe even less, Congress will pass a resolution to open the government, McConnell will have to go along with it, it will pass both houses, trump will veto it, and the Senate will override. May be wishful thinking, but I will stick by it.
You know.... beats me... cause I didn't think it would go on for this long..... Republicans apparently don't feel embarrassment or empathy.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:55 pm

bannination wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:19 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm
I am going to make a prediction......I just read a news story about how trump says he won't "cave" on his wall demands. Here's the prediction: if the shutdown last another 30 days or maybe even less, Congress will pass a resolution to open the government, McConnell will have to go along with it, it will pass both houses, trump will veto it, and the Senate will override. May be wishful thinking, but I will stick by it.
You know.... beats me... cause I didn't think it would go on for this long..... Republicans apparently don't feel embarrassment or empathy.
McConnell is not helping; he says he won't send anything to the president that he won't sign.......well, hell, Mitch, that's not your call. His job is to pass a bill. So what if it's vetoed by the dubmass in chief. Vote on the bills, if they get vetoed, your boys can override a veto. I guess he forgot. He makes me want to break things.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by bannination » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:01 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:55 pm
bannination wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:19 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm
I am going to make a prediction......I just read a news story about how trump says he won't "cave" on his wall demands. Here's the prediction: if the shutdown last another 30 days or maybe even less, Congress will pass a resolution to open the government, McConnell will have to go along with it, it will pass both houses, trump will veto it, and the Senate will override. May be wishful thinking, but I will stick by it.
You know.... beats me... cause I didn't think it would go on for this long..... Republicans apparently don't feel embarrassment or empathy.
McConnell is not helping; he says he won't send anything to the president that he won't sign.......well, hell, Mitch, that's not your call. His job is to pass a bill. So what if it's vetoed by the dubmass in chief. Vote on the bills, if they get vetoed, your boys can override a veto. I guess he forgot. He makes me want to break things.
That's my opinion, it's not Trump's fault for the shutdown until a bill is placed in front of him. He offered to own it regardless though, which was nice of him, if only he honored any word that utters from his mouth.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:09 pm

Urge Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to end the shutdown, today.

You may add any salty language that you choose.
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Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:30 pm

Well, that was only the second petition I've ever signed. I advised him that the Senate has the power to override a veto and that maybe him and his wife have been on the public payroll for way too long. Oh, and before I reminded him that the Senate can override a presidential veto I told him to "do your fucking job." I closed out with "you're welcome."

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Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:56 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:30 pm
Well, that was only the second petition I've ever signed. I advised him that the Senate has the power to override a veto and that maybe him and his wife have been on the public payroll for way too long. Oh, and before I reminded him that the Senate can override a presidential veto I told him to "do your fucking job." I closed out with "you're welcome."
:thumbup:

Most petitions allow editing. Surely you have some choice words for your own congresspeople, too. :twisted:
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Re: The Wall

Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:35 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:56 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:30 pm
Well, that was only the second petition I've ever signed. I advised him that the Senate has the power to override a veto and that maybe him and his wife have been on the public payroll for way too long. Oh, and before I reminded him that the Senate can override a presidential veto I told him to "do your fucking job." I closed out with "you're welcome."
:thumbup:

Most petitions allow editing. Surely you have some choice words for your own congresspeople, too. :twisted:
I've written to Phil Roe more than once and never hear back from him. It's like Martin Sheen said about Col Kurtz in Apocalypse Now about what Kurtz told LBJ and the joint chiefs after his visit to Vietnam......."I guess they didn't dig what he had to tell them."

I started to write Marsha Blackburn the other day and remind her that I'd seen her on video saying "a wall isn't the answer" but decided it was useless to do so. I may go ahead with it depending on how the votes go this week on shutdown shithouse.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:29 pm

It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:38 pm

BUILD A WALL FUCK YOU ALL BUILD A WALL BEFORE I CRAWL BUILD A WALL OR I'LL KILL YOU ALL BUILD A WALL TO DEFLECT BITCHES ALL

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by GoCubsGo » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:24 pm

GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:22 pm

There has to be a real crisis, TSA or air traffic control needs to walk out for a day or two. That's the type of thing needed to get Congress moving.
That sound you hear 👂 is POSPOTUS folding like a cheap,suit and claiming victory. Thank you Air Traffic Controllers.
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Re: The Wall

Unread post by neoplacebo » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:11 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:35 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:56 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:30 pm
Well, that was only the second petition I've ever signed. I advised him that the Senate has the power to override a veto and that maybe him and his wife have been on the public payroll for way too long. Oh, and before I reminded him that the Senate can override a presidential veto I told him to "do your fucking job." I closed out with "you're welcome."
:thumbup:

Most petitions allow editing. Surely you have some choice words for your own congresspeople, too. :twisted:
I've written to Phil Roe more than once and never hear back from him. It's like Martin Sheen said about Col Kurtz in Apocalypse Now about what Kurtz told LBJ and the joint chiefs after his visit to Vietnam......."I guess they didn't dig what he had to tell them."

I started to write Marsha Blackburn the other day and remind her that I'd seen her on video saying "a wall isn't the answer" but decided it was useless to do so. I may go ahead with it depending on how the votes go this week on shutdown shithouse.
Flash update; I tried to contact my US Senator today but she has no official contact site....just a couple of old campaign sites and other shit that appears to be designed to obscure things. I can't believe this bitch (Marsha Blackburn) would stoop so low and be so elusive. I guess she's working for Russia or someone else, too. Sigh

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:55 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:11 pm
Flash update; I tried to contact my US Senator today but she has no official contact site....just a couple of old campaign sites and other shit that appears to be designed to obscure things. I can't believe this bitch (Marsha Blackburn) would stoop so low and be so elusive. I guess she's working for Russia or someone else, too. Sigh
U.S. Senator Marsha Blackburn

That's very strange. MAYBE whoever sets up new senators' email is out because of the shutdown.

Her campaign address should work in the meantime: team@marshablackburn.com
https://www.marshablackburn.com/contact-us/
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Unread post by neoplacebo » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:16 pm

Nah, there was an article from the Knoxville paper about how she's still not got an email site for constituents to write her. She's a treacherous bitch and should not be trusted in any matter, especially involving money. She's originally from Mississippi and I suspect secretly works for a situation that's a cross between the old Confederacy and the period from about 1870 to 1920 when folks like her could stomp with impunity on us lesser folks. I did not vote for this.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:41 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:16 pm
Nah, there was an article from the Knoxville paper about how she's still not got an email site for constituents to write her. She's a treacherous bitch and should not be trusted in any matter, especially involving money. She's originally from Mississippi and I suspect secretly works for a situation that's a cross between the old Confederacy and the period from about 1870 to 1920 when folks like her could stomp with impunity on us lesser folks. I did not vote for this.
Yeah, differing opinions on the cause and who's affected, but no mention of the shutdown.
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/201 ... 642795002/
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Re: The Wall

Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:35 am

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The petition to Democrats reads:

"The government shutdown just ended because you held the line. Keep standing strong and use your power to fight for a DHS budget that reflects progressive values and defunds Trump's hate. Block the wall, cut funding for ICE and CBP, and fight for freedom, equality and a path to citizenship for all immigrants and refugees."
Realistically, we'll be lucky if there's zero wall funding. I'll guess that there will be some increase in funding for ICE and CBP, and no comprehensive immigration reform in the near term. However, MAYBE pressure like this will keep the increase to a minimum and begin a path towards reform.
It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by O Really » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:51 am

"The wall" will never be built IRL, although there may be some places where additional wall/fence is installed - not that different from what has happened for years. Even if Congress had authorized the $5.7bil and given Trump a hearty "go ahead" there could be little accomplished before the end of his term. Too much involved in land grab, too much engineering necessary, yada. But if he gets a little bit and gets to say he's building his wall, he'll brag about it for the next two years anyway. Given that he's going to lie about everything in his made-up world, that's probably worth the price of knowing that a real wall is dead.

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Re: The Wall

Unread post by neoplacebo » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:20 pm

Hell, I bet he could just say he built a wall and take some photos of "a wall" and his idiot believers would fall for it. May as well stick with the lying.

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