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ExxonMobil obviously neglected to work on the military.
It only succeeded with idiots like POSPOTUS.
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What does Rexxon Tillerson do these days? If moronism were impeachable, Rexxon would have been a good witness.

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What does Rexxon Tillerson do these days? If moronism were impeachable, Rexxon would have been a good witness.
67 years old, might just be chillin'. This is ironic:
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What does Rexxon Tillerson do these days? If moronism were impeachable, Rexxon would have been a good witness.
67 years old, might just be chillin'. This is ironic:
Fraffic? Nothing worse than that; lots of trucks dripping with chemicals and polluted dirt. If he wasn't a multimillionaire I could sympathize with him but he probably has three or four other houses free of fraffic or anything like it.

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Fraffic? Nothing worse than that; lots of trucks dripping with chemicals and polluted dirt. If he wasn't a multimillionaire I could sympathize with him but he probably has three or four other houses free of fraffic or anything like it.
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10 Ways That The Climate Crisis And Militarism Are Intertwined

1. The US military protects Big Oil and other extractive industries....

2. The Pentagon is the single largest institutional consumer of fossil fuels in the world....

3. The Pentagon monopolizes the funding we need to seriously address the climate crisis....

4. Military operations leave a toxic legacy in their wake....

5. Wars ravage fragile ecosystems that are crucial to sustaining human health and climate resiliency....

6. Climate change is a “threat multiplier” that makes already dangerous social and political situations even worse....

7. US sabotages international agreements addressing climate change and war....

By choosing to prioritize our military over diplomacy, the US sends the message that “might makes right” and makes it harder to find solutions to the climate crisis and military conflicts.

8. Mass migration is fueled by both climate change and conflict, with migrants often facing militarized repression....

9. Militarized state violence is leveled against communities resisting corporate-led environmental destruction....

10. Climate change and nuclear war are both existential threats to the planet....

To free up billions of Pentagon dollars for investing in critical environmental projects and to eliminate the environmental havoc of war, movements for a livable, peaceful planet need to put “ending war” at the top of the “must do” list.
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Climate crisis, what climate crisis?

Forests and Climate Big Losers in 2020 Federal Spending Package

"This spending package not only fails to provide any significant measures to combat climate change, but also contains provisions that will actually exacerbate the climate crisis and harm our forest ecosystems ..."

Trump's Christmas Gift to Big Oil: Killing Hopes of Electric Car Tax Credit Extension
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Here's a story speculating that Greta is a time traveler come back to warn us.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/121-yea ... 35110.html
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Climate tipping points — too risky to bet against
The growing threat of abrupt and irreversible climate changes must compel political and economic action on emissions.


Politicians, economists and even some natural scientists have tended to assume that tipping points1 in the Earth system — such as the loss of the Amazon rainforest or the West Antarctic ice sheet — are of low probability and little understood. Yet evidence is mounting that these events could be more likely than was thought, have high impacts and are interconnected across different biophysical systems, potentially committing the world to long-term irreversible changes.

Here we summarize evidence on the threat of exceeding tipping points, identify knowledge gaps and suggest how these should be plugged. We explore the effects of such large-scale changes, how quickly they might unfold and whether we still have any control over them.

In our view, the consideration of tipping points helps to define that we are in a climate emergency and strengthens this year’s chorus of calls for urgent climate action — from schoolchildren to scientists, cities and countries....

In our view, the evidence from tipping points alone suggests that we are in a state of planetary emergency: both the risk and urgency of the situation are acute ...

We argue that the intervention time left to prevent tipping could already have shrunk towards zero, whereas the reaction time to achieve net zero emissions is 30 years at best. Hence we might already have lost control of whether tipping happens. A saving grace is that the rate at which damage accumulates from tipping — and hence the risk posed — could still be under our control to some extent.

The stability and resilience of our planet is in peril. International action — not just words — must reflect this.
Greenland is losing ice at fastest rate in (at least) 350 years
Vast ice sheet's dramatic transformation revealed by ice cores, satellite data and climate models.


Permafrost collapse is accelerating carbon release
The sudden collapse of thawing soils in the Arctic might double the warming from greenhouse gases released from tundra, warn Merritt R. Turetsky and colleagues.


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Given the mix of people we have here, who would have thought the only one who gets a white Christmas is the one who lives in Southern California?
Not exactly on top of us, but a half-hour into the mountains. In some higher locations measured by the foot. The 8 and 15 closed for a while on the passes. HIgh in San Diego today was 52, about the same as Whack9's NJ. -0-?

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... And by the way, if anyone would like to send former Congressman Charles Taylor a note in the mail, his address is PO Box 66 Brevard, NC. I forget his zip code but I know it's better to have no zip code than the wrong one. 66 is where he gets his personal mail, or it was at that time and had been for many years. Hell, I don't know if the shithead is still alive. Send him a note and tell him I recommended it.
Brevard, North Carolina, 28712, was Cherokee, East.

"Chainsaw" Charley Taylor is still alive, 78.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Taylor
Yes, 28712. I can see it now. That may have been the code on the cypher lock on the back door of the post office. I was always the first one there. And go go go Charlie Taylor; live it up you corrupt bastard because your time is short and may even be in a deficit condition. If he's still alive in January next year I may send him a birthday card wishing him a sudden death.
THREE ACTIVISTS FROM EXTINCTION REBELLION ASHEVILLE (and BXE and APPPL) TAKE OVER REPUBLICAN HOLIDAY FUNDRAISER

Early last week, a few days before the solstice we got word of an upcoming Republican Party fundraiser in honor of a former N.C. Congressman, Charles Taylor, who has connections to a failed bank and the Russian mafia. Last year about 20 of us picketed outside this event at Asheville's upscale Crowne Plaza Resort, but were threatened with arrest and forced to leave early on. This year on the solstice evening and in spite of the cost of tickets ($65), which some people thought would be a waste of money, Kendall and Debby Genz (another elder) and Steve went into the lions den of about 300 cultish Republican leaders and public officials. Being inside clearly gave us opportunities which did not exist outside. Not knowing the layout of the fundraiser room or seating arrangements, not knowing how many people would be attending, not knowing what security would be like, not knowing whether we would have assigned seats, we could not create detailed plans beforehand. We knew, though, that we could be creative, bold, and steadfast, and if possible sit near the front where we could have the most impact.

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Kendall Hale in the red jacket is holding one end of the banner, Steve Norris is on the other end. Debby Genz videoed.

However, when we arrived, we found everyone had assigned seats, and our table was near a back corner of the room. On the table was glossy pro-Trump propaganda - " In 2020 help Trump defeat Socialism". Worse still, across from us at our table of eight guests was a cop in uniform, with a gun on his hip, and his wife next to him. Not only did we have to make small talk with them and the other guests while we ate, but the three of us had to recalculate our plan of attack in whispers to one another. We also had to listen to uninspiring speakers applaud the incredible "historical accomplishments" of the Trump administration: Keeping out immigrants, loosening all sorts of regulations, appointing conservative judges, passing tax cuts, and so on. The food was good, but being there was frightening andstressful; and at the same time exciting, knowing that maybe we could outwit these Republicans right under their noses. And that maybe, just maybe, if we could pull off our action, we'd turn this banal holiday party into something, for better or worse, they might remember as the most colorful and challenging event of the evening or of the holiday season.

After the dinner ended (we had to forego the cheesescake) and as the formal program was commencing, Kendall and Steve abruptly and without fanfare stood up and unfurled a banner that said "Climate Emergency, Extinction Rebellion." Since it was too noisy to give our prepared speech, we chanted "Climate Emergency, Rebel for Life" as we walked to the front of room and across to the podium. At some point Steve said in his loudest voice "I'm sorry to interrupt you holiday festivities but my and your children and grandchildren are gravely endangered by climate change." Debby video-ed, while the audience weakly began to chant, "Make American Great Again" and "USA! USA! USA! USA. . . ." in a too late attempt to drown us out. Soon after, two frantic hotel security guards grabbed and pushed us out a side door warning us "You must leave the grounds immediately or be arrested"). Here's a video of the action: https://www.facebook.com/XRWNC/posts/158178205590762 .

A friend wrote me the next day: "I would have been scared shitless. I would have expected to have been beaten." Kendall's sure that this was her most scary action ever. But she did it anyway. Many activists now believe that we must take personal risks, as well as risks of arrest, if we are going to confront the challenges posed by climate change, mass extinction, and the myriad violent oppressive policies of the Trump administration. It seems fitting that during this Christmas season, celebrating the rebel Jesus who as a young man disrupted the activities of the money changers in the Temple in Jerusalem, that a few of us should make the lives of these greedy and corrupt Republican zealots uncomfortable as well.

Happy holidays.
Kendall & Steve
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I would not have been able to eat at this venue. I'm sure I would have thrown up on several Republicans. And then said "excuse me, goddamnit."

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I would not have been able to eat at this venue. I'm sure I would have thrown up on several Republicans. And then said "excuse me, goddamnit."
That's terrible of you . . .
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to think such action needs excusing ;) .

Let's hear from an NC Dem:
Thank you for your thoughtful and encouraging words and for taking the time to share this message. I am honored to serve as your Attorney General.

As your Attorney General, protecting the people of North Carolina is my top priority. And protecting the people of North Carolina also means protecting our environment and combating the crisis of climate change. That’s why I joined the lawsuit that you mentioned against the Trump administration’s decision to end California’s ability to set its own vehicle emissions standards.

But as you note, the federal government has taken additional actions to roll back environmental protections that limit pollution from power plants and cars. On Oct. 26, 2018, I joined 20 other Attorneys General in filing a formal regulatory comment that called on the EPA to withdraw its proposal to gut the Clean Car Standards. This regulatory comment will be part of the foundation to file suit if – and when – the Trump administration adopts its proposal as a final rule.

I have also sued over other actions that would worsen our planet’s climate crisis. For example, on Sept. 6, 2019, I sued to block the Trump administration’s “Dirty Power Rule,” which would repeal and replace the 2016 Clean Power Plan. In 2018, I successfully sued to block the EPA from putting in place the “Dirty Truck Loophole.” This loophole would have added an exemption from vehicle emissions standards for any new tractor-trailers which included parts from old, used engines.

Rest assured, I will continue to push back against policies that could be catastrophic for our state and safeguard the air we breathe and the water we drink. We owe it to future generations to do everything in our power to protect our planet.

Again, thank you for your letter. Please do not hesitate to contact my office again in the future.

Sincerely,

Josh Stein
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neoplacebo wrote:
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George Carlin said "Imagine how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of them are stupider than that."
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George Carlin said "I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white bourgeoise liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalist don’t give a shit about the planet, they don’t care about the planet, not in the abstract they don’t, not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that someday in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me. Besides, there is nothing wrong ith the planet, nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The people are ******."

Another of leftists heroes? :lol:

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Opps, the Australia bush fires link above went sour. Here's a good one:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/marke ... ar-BBYKpZj

15 years ago Australia was considered one of the worst nations for AGW policy. I don't know if that changed and by how much.
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Yeah, I know - one day/week of anecdotal circumstances doesn't have significance in the big picture, but still ...
The last year I lived in Pennsylvania, it barely got above freezing for the whole month of January. Unusually cold, but not totally unheard of. Today, people were enjoying 60-degree weather wearing shorts and playing in parks.

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Yeah, I know - one day/week of anecdotal circumstances doesn't have significance in the big picture, but still ...
The last year I lived in Pennsylvania, it barely got above freezing for the whole month of January. Unusually cold, but not totally unheard of. Today, people were enjoying 60-degree weather wearing shorts and playing in parks.
Mid-upper 60s this week in Hooterville, thunderstorms yesterday, some freezing temps in early Dec, balmy since. Not a lick of snow this year. We were never polar, but I remember when there would be some snow on the ground all winter.
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“Australia is on fire,” tweeted teenage climate evangelist Greta Thunberg, decrying the lack of “political action [to combat] the climate crisis.”

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