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Even better!

“Becki and I developed an intimate relationship and Jerry enjoyed watching from the corner of the room,” Granda said in an interview.
... Becki Falwell, 53, is a political figure in her own right. She served on the advisory board of the group Women for Trump, which advocates for the president’s reelection campaign. She also spoke as part of a panel with her husband and Donald Trump Jr at last year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, the signature annual gathering of conservatives. Jerry Falwell and others refer to her as “the first lady of Liberty University.”

The university, based in Lynchburg, Virginia, was founded in 1971 by Falwell’s televangelist father, the Rev. Jerry Falwell. The younger Falwell took over in 2007. Today, the university boasts an online and on-campus enrollment that exceeds 100,000 students and holds those who attend to an exacting honor code. “Sexual relations outside of a biblically ordained marriage between a natural-born man and a natural-born woman are not permissible at Liberty University,” the code reads.

The material Granda showed Reuters includes screenshots from what Granda said was a FaceTime conversation he had with the Falwells in 2019. During that call, Granda said, Becki was naked as the two discussed their relationship while Jerry peeked from behind a door. Reuters was able to verify Granda’s description of the screenshots.

Granda also shared an audio recording that he says captures a conversation he had with the Falwells in 2018. In it, Becki complained about Granda describing his relationships with other people: “He’s like telling me every time he hooks up with people. Like I don’t have feelings or something.” Jerry then chimed in: “You’re going to make her jealous.” “I’m not trying to do that,” Granda replied....
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Ah, yes, the laying on of hands......always a favorite as well as a crowd pleaser. No doubt there was also some snake handling going on here, too.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:45 pm
Ah, yes, the laying on of hands......always a favorite as well as a crowd pleaser. No doubt there was also some snake handling going on here, too.
"Oh god, oh god, oh god!

Jerry Jr was just "witnessing".
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Jerry Jr has resigned from "Liberty" U, not that there was any hope of his returning. I guess he took too many liberties.

Edit: Or not. We'll see.
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Vrede too wrote:
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neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:45 pm
Ah, yes, the laying on of hands......always a favorite as well as a crowd pleaser. No doubt there was also some snake handling going on here, too.
"Oh god, oh god, oh god!

Jerry Jr was just "witnessing".
Maybe Jerry Jr. and Jim Bakker can team up for a righteous old time revival.....maybe even dig up Tammy Faye and have a real special tv extravanganza of fraudulent fund raising and general git down to milk their gullible followers out of some more money. Speaking of fraudulent fund raising, I saw today that Jim Bakker got quite a bit of money for his religious scam from the government. These sleazy con men spare no effort in extorting money from anyone stupid enough to send them some. And when they dig up Tammy Faye they'll all be surprised to find that she looks the same now as she did when alive. Amen.

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This just keeps getting better:

Jerry Falwell Jr. says his wife had an affair with the Florida 'pool boy,' claims they were being blackmailed

Is it because Granda es mas grande than Jerry Jr? :o
Dayyum, Hollywood exploitation has gotten ridiculously fast:

POOL BOY NIGHTMARE (LIFETIME)
BROADCAST HISTORY:
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I wouldn't be surprised to find there are other "pool boys" that will be ummm, "exposed" as this story moves along. Seems unlikely that in all her life she just found this one 20-year old guy and invited him to her bed when convenient.

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Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:26 am
I wouldn't be surprised to find there are other "pool boys" that will be ummm, "exposed" as this story moves along. Seems unlikely that in all her life she just found this one 20-year old guy and invited him to her bed when convenient.
:thumbup: Also, is Becki the only woman - or man, nttawwt - that Jerry Jr has watched with a "pool boy"?

Jerry Falwell Jr. is leaving Liberty University with a $10.5 million golden parachute

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There is no doubt in my mind that I would have a better and nore honest time with fifty thousand dollars than Jerry will have with ten million.

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O Really wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:26 am
I wouldn't be surprised to find there are other "pool boys" that will be ummm, "exposed" as this story moves along. Seems unlikely that in all her life she just found this one 20-year old guy and invited him to her bed when convenient.
Good call.

Former Liberty University Student Alleges Sexual Encounter With Becki Falwell: Report
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Hitchens's razor

Hitchens's razor is an epistemological razor expressed by writer Christopher Hitchens. It says that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it.

Hitchens has phrased the razor in writing as "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."
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I was looking up a particular story and learned that "youth pastor arrested for sexual misconduct" is nowhere near specific enough. :o

Here we go, int'l news:
Married youth minister, 44, who slapped a 23-year-old TV reporter's behind during a live shot at a (Savannah) 5K run pleads guilty to sexual battery and is fined $1,000

... Thomas Callaway, 44, was sentenced to a year probation and fined $1,000 by a Savannah judge who accepted his plea for the misdemeanor count on Tuesday.

The judge also ordered him to perform 200 hours of community service, court records show....

In a police report, the reporter said Callaway had slapped and then grabbed her buttocks.

She also appeared on CBS This Morning where she claimed that Callaway had not only slapped her hard enough to startle her but also to physically hurt her.
I wondered if her strong reaction was for more than a slap, not that a slap is okay.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ6AAa9YfAg
... Callaway said he didn't intend to slap the reporter on the rear. He said he was raising his arm trying to pat her on the back or the shoulder and didn't realize until seeing the video that he had touched her buttocks.

Callaway told Inside Edition: 'I was getting ready to bring my hands up and wave to the camera to the audience, there was a misjudge in character and decision-making. I touched her back; I did not know exactly where I touched her.' ...
Anyone believe him?
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I don't believe him. I think at minimum he intended to slap her ass and *probably* didn't mean any harm. If that was it, then I also think in the overall context the reaction - including a criminal charge - was way overblown. But... a grab is not the same as a slap/pat so if that was it, then he deserves what he got.

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Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:05 am
I don't believe him. I think at minimum he intended to slap her ass and *probably* didn't mean any harm. If that was it, then I also think in the overall context the reaction - including a criminal charge - was way overblown. But... a grab is not the same as a slap/pat so if that was it, then he deserves what he got.
I assume that he lost his job and I'll bet that his wife is pissed off. Does misdemeanor "sexual battery" mean that he also has to register as a sex offender or is that just for felonies? I know that some people that have just peed in an alley are "sex offenders".
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O Really wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:05 am
I don't believe him. I think at minimum he intended to slap her ass and *probably* didn't mean any harm. If that was it, then I also think in the overall context the reaction - including a criminal charge - was way overblown. But... a grab is not the same as a slap/pat so if that was it, then he deserves what he got.
I assume that he lost his job and I'll bet that his wife is pissed off. Does misdemeanor "sexual battery" mean that he also has to register as a sex offender or is that just for felonies? I know that some people that have just peed in an alley are "sex offenders".
I don't know, but that would be pretty ridiculous even if was an ass-grab. "Sex offender" as a broad category and registration is way over-used and abused already. Any category that can't distinguish between a 19-year old enjoying paradise by the dashboard light with his happily willing 16-year old girl friend and a guy jumping some woman in the alley is already badly broken.

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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:05 am
I don't believe him. I think at minimum he intended to slap her ass and *probably* didn't mean any harm. If that was it, then I also think in the overall context the reaction - including a criminal charge - was way overblown. But... a grab is not the same as a slap/pat so if that was it, then he deserves what he got.
I assume that he lost his job and I'll bet that his wife is pissed off. Does misdemeanor "sexual battery" mean that he also has to register as a sex offender or is that just for felonies? I know that some people that have just peed in an alley are "sex offenders".
:shock: Damn, I'm an alley offender, a side of the building offender, a Mason jar offender, and a covert Atlantic Ocean offender.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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:shock: Damn, I'm an alley offender, a side of the building offender, a Mason jar offender, and a covert Atlantic Ocean offender.
I'm a member of the IPOF Club - I Pissed in Old Faithful. I guess that's a federal sex crime. :oops:
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I'm a member of the IPOF Club - I Pissed in Old Faithful. I guess that's a federal sex crime. :oops:
That club's probably getting a lot smaller. They're hauling people away in cuffs for getting that close now. And yet some idiots still try it.

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That club's probably getting a lot smaller. They're hauling people away in cuffs for getting that close now. And yet some idiots still try it.
They would have then, 1976, too. I was working at the Inn and had a pretty good sense for what I could get away with. Not many rangers around in the early morning, then and probably now. Idk about surveillance cameras.
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Well, I was subjected to yet another doomsday spiel from my favorite fake Christian Robert Jeffress and his Pathway to Victory bullshit today. His latest spiel is "an in depth study of the book of Revelation." I bet he'll have some big fun with this. Be the victim you always wanted to be. Amen

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