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> 250,000 :( . Virusgiving Holiday in 8 days. :angry-banghead:

Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds issues mask mandate after disparaging it as 'feel good' measure
Reynolds, a Republican, issued the state’s first mask mandate after months of disparaging coronavirus restrictions as “feel good” measures.


So far, 2064 Iowa deaths, proportionally 24th worst in the nation despite being a rural state.
https://isabelcastillo.com/states-coronavirus-deaths

NC: 4,881 deaths, proportionally 33rd worst in the nation, nearly 4 times the population density of Iowa (208.7/sq mi vs 56.1/sq mi).

Of "our" states (including DC and PR) only California (34th), Washington (43rd) and Maine (51st) are doing better than NC proportionally.
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Wonder if Kim Reynolds would've had her covid come to jesus moment if trump had won the election.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:15 pm
Wonder if Kim Reynolds would've had her covid come to jesus moment if trump had won the election.
I would guess yes, but that the murdering sycophant didn't have it sooner because of the POTUS and Sen election.
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ABC study: Counties with highest death rates are rural, poor, often nonwhite until recently, and have limited access to healthcare. The worst off is Gove County, KS. TV news also cited a south GA county as an example.

An American tragedy: Inside the towns hardest hit by coronavirus
Rural counties with "worst possible public health setup you could imagine."


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Gove County, Kansas voted > 7:1 for PINO in 2016. In 2020 the margin approached 8:1 for PINO. Mass suicide by popular vote. :roll: :cry: :x
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:lol: trump jr says he'll spend his quarantine time cleaning his guns. Here's a possible headline story sometime next week;
Donald Trump Jr Accidentally Blows His Head Off While Cleaning His Elephant Gun.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump ... 00189.html

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neoplacebo wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:32 pm
:lol: trump jr says he'll spend his quarantine time cleaning his guns. Here's a possible headline story sometime next week;
Donald Trump Jr Accidentally Blows His Head Off While Cleaning His Elephant Gun.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump ... 00189.html
:D May the bullet also take out Kimberly Guilfoyle.


Someone dies from CV-19 every minute.
1400 die every day, a 9/11 every 2 days.
83K are hospitalized nationwide, a record.
Infections are rising in every state.
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Vrede too wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:38 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:32 pm
:lol: trump jr says he'll spend his quarantine time cleaning his guns. Here's a possible headline story sometime next week;
Donald Trump Jr Accidentally Blows His Head Off While Cleaning His Elephant Gun.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump ... 00189.html
:D May the bullet also take out Kimberly Guilfoyle.


Someone dies from CV-19 every minute.
1400 die every day, a 9/11 every 2 days.
83K are hospitalized nationwide, a record.
Infections are rising in every state.
It's the trumpvirus
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... 83K are hospitalized nationwide, a record....
A new record each day for 14 days straight. :(
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Vrede too wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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... 1400 die every day, a 9/11 every 2 days.
83K are hospitalized nationwide, a record....
A new record each day for 14 days straight. :(
2400 deaths per day
88K
15 days
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Most Americans flying today since the pandemic began.

Happy Virusgiving!
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GMA just now: "More than 90 million hospitalized."
:o
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Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:14 am
GMA just now: "More than 90 million hospitalized."
:o
That can't be right - that would be almost 1/3 of the US population in the hospital. Must be 90 thousand.

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O Really wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:13 am
Vrede too wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:14 am
GMA just now: "More than 90 million hospitalized."
:o
That can't be right - that would be almost 1/3 of the US population in the hospital. Must be 90 thousand.
:D Especially when just yesterday:
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Vrede too wrote:
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... 83K are hospitalized nationwide, a record....
88K

Happy Virusgiving!
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Trump's national security advisor and his entourage were said to be treated as 'human petri dishes' in Vietnam, as the US COVID-19 outbreak worsens every day

... Vietnam has been a coronavirus success story, recording about 1,300 cases throughout the pandemic, while the US has recorded the most COVID-19 cases and deaths of any country.

O'Brien and his entourage were tested for the coronavirus upon arrival, housed on the same floor of a Hanoi hotel, and had their meals left outside their doors, Bloomberg said.

The US Air Force team that piloted O'Brien's plane was not permitted to enter Vietnam and spent the night in neighboring Thailand....
Smart.
Shortly after arriving in the Philippines from Hanoi, a member of O'Brien's flight crew tested positive for the coronavirus, Bloomberg said, adding that two more on the trip had since tested positive.
Very smart.
O'Brien tested positive for the coronavirus in late July.

Vietnam was hailed internationally for recording zero COVID-19 deaths until July 31. The same day, the US death toll passed 150,000.

Several Trump advisors, according to Bloomberg, joked that there might have been more cases of COVID-19 in Trump's inner circle than there were in Vietnam at the time.
:lol: :cry:

Not smart:
Florida governor Ron DeSantis accused of ‘killing spree’ after extending ban on cities from imposing own mask mandates

... On Wednesday, Mr DeSantis extended an executive order issued in September, which prevented local governments from fining residents who refused to wear face masks, or from closing restaurants not complying with coronavirus measures.

The decision on 25 September prompted the start of the state’s third phase of pandemic measures, which allowed restaurants and bars to open at 100 per cent capacity.
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... Last week, a bipartisan group of Florida mayors pleaded with Mr DeSantis to allow mask mandates to be enforced in areas across the state, according to Forbes.

The governor rejected their plea..

Florida is the largest state in the US to have lifted a majority of its coronavirus restrictions and is one of only 13 that have not issued statewide mask mandates.

It has seen a spike in coronavirus cases over the last couple of months, as the number of Covid-19 infections reported in a week has tripled since Mr DeSantis lifted restrictions, according to CNN....

Since the start of the pandemic, Florida has recorded more than 962,000 Covid-19 cases and at least 18,253 deaths....
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"If you still won’t wear a coronavirus face mask after seeing this, you’re insane"

https://bgr.com/2020/11/27/coronavirus- ... =flipboard

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O Really wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:32 am
"If you still won’t wear a coronavirus face mask after seeing this, you’re insane"

https://bgr.com/2020/11/27/coronavirus- ... =flipboard
Yeah, turns out they protect the wearer more than was initially thought. “Don’t share your air.”
The CDC’s latest coronavirus revelation will blow your mind

New CDC research says that only a small fraction of Americans who have caught COVID-19 actually received a diagnosis with a coronavirus test.

There have been 13 million confirmed COVID-19 cases in the US so far, but the CDC estimates that the actual figure is much higher.

The CDC says that as many as 100 million Americans have been infected by the novel coronavirus so far....
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New CDC research says that only a small fraction of Americans who have caught COVID-19 actually received a diagnosis with a coronavirus test.

There have been 13 million confirmed COVID-19 cases in the US so far, but the CDC estimates that the actual figure is much higher.

The CDC says that as many as 100 million Americans have been infected by the novel coronavirus so far....
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I have no basis to contradict the CDC on their numbers, and without doubt many more have been infected than confirmed tested, but really, if the difference is that big, is there any point in precisely reporting the confirmed tests? If they have a good idea as to the multiplier, wouldn't it be better to take the, say, 100,000 in a day and say that a million people went down today? I mean, if you know you're understating by 10x, what's the point of reporting the lower number? San Diego County, for example, keeps a running analysis of confirmed tests, and report them down to the zip code level. But can you assume that the true total is proportional to the confirmed total? Or are you reporting that El Cajon has the worst case number per 100K population, but in actuality it's somewhere else with non-reported cases that's really fueling the growth?

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I have no basis to contradict the CDC on their numbers, and without doubt many more have been infected than confirmed tested, but really, if the difference is that big, is there any point in precisely reporting the confirmed tests? If they have a good idea as to the multiplier, wouldn't it be better to take the, say, 100,000 in a day and say that a million people went down today? I mean, if you know you're understating by 10x, what's the point of reporting the lower number? San Diego County, for example, keeps a running analysis of confirmed tests, and report them down to the zip code level. But can you assume that the true total is proportional to the confirmed total? Or are you reporting that El Cajon has the worst case number per 100K population, but in actuality it's somewhere else with non-reported cases that's really fueling the growth?
Idk the answer to any of your questions. All along I have paid a lot more attention to hospitalizations and deaths than I have to the number of + tests.
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Idk the answer to any of your questions. All along I have paid a lot more attention to hospitalizations and deaths than I have to the number of + tests.
But is there a way to derive a reasonable estimate of total cases from the number of hospitalizations/deaths? Where did CDC get the 100 mill number? I'd like to think it wasn't out of the pick-a-number part of their ass.

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But is there a way to derive a reasonable estimate of total cases from the number of hospitalizations/deaths?

Complications to it:
Accessibility of testing;
Changes in the effectiveness of treatment;
Regional variations;
Population demographics;
Certainly others.


Where did CDC get the 100 mill number?

Idk. Random sampling of untested folks? Statistical models of spread?

I'd like to think it wasn't out of the pick-a-number part of their ass.

:) Probably not, but all I've seen is the one article, not peer reviews and other critiques.
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OK, TBH, I don't care as much how many people get covid or die as I do that Lady O and I don't get it. But let's crunch some numbers and probabilities.
Say a million people a day are getting covid. That's .03 percent of the US population. But there's an approximate 14 day window of getting it and then getting over it. Stretch that out to 21 days for extra caution. So at any given point in time, there would be 21 million people in some stage of covid, approximately 6.5% of the population. Within that 21 day stretch, we can exclude say 2 days before contagion, and 3 days after contagion, leaving 16 million people contagious at a time, or approximately 5% of the population. Let's say conservatively that a fourth of those people are either sick enough to have to be home/hospital or at least aware they shouldn't be out. That leaves 12 million people wandering around the US being contagious, or about 3.7% of the population. Clearly, the distribution of sick people isn't equally divided in all places, but we'll assume it is. If I go into a store, 3 or 4 out of a hundred people I see will have covid. Of course, again, distribution of people is not even, so at some time during the day, maybe 10 people in the store will have it - other times maybe nobody. So the chances some covid people are in the store with me is pretty low, but still significant when you're talking about a potentially fatal illness. Let's add in the masking. If I only go into stores with a mask requirement, that reduces my liklihood of becoming infected even if I have the bad luck to go in with the 10 sickies. And if I add in a determined effort to keep a distance from everybody, that reduces the likelihood even more. And if I make an effort to get in and out as quickly as possible, even more.

So bottom line, for me to catch covid, I'm going to have to meet one or more of 3% of the population, stand close enough for them to breathe maskless into my maskless face and stand there for at least a few minutes. Or get coughed on in close quarters. Really not likely to happen. I know, we're fortunate to be able to control our life. It would be different chances if we had to go to work in public places, had kids going in and out of the house, etc. But it's still largely a controllable situation for individuals. Question is, why the fuck doesn't everybody just take the simple steps to protect themselves and their families?

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