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Re: Gun Legislation

Unread post by O Really » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:32 am

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There are elderly folks that live alone who can't afford one of those high dollar motor homes to get away from the sketchy places.
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Then those people might be better off if they get some real training in their weapons, improve their perimeter security, and maybe get a dog.

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Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:39 am

Keep your motor home doors locked.
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    Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:02 am

    O Really,

    Looks like s/he is jealous, awww. Are you feeling guilty yet?
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    Unread post by O Really » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:35 am

    Vrede too wrote:
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    O Really,

    Looks like s/he is jealous, awww. Are you feeling guilty yet?
    Ummm, No.
    I saw the vid of the stolen RV a couple of weeks ago. Thefts of motor homes are pretty unusual, and that one wasn't really "stolen" like jump in, hotwire, and go. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loca ... 59091.html

    And most break-in attempts are while an RV is in storage, not while it's being used. But CAT can rest easy for us. We've got security.

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    Re: Gun Legislation

    Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:44 am

    Yes, you do.
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    Re: Gun Legislation

    Unread post by O Really » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:49 pm

    "More Americans were shot to death by March 6 this year than died on D-Day"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... b0cf217476

    Thoughts and Prayers.

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    Re: Gun Legislation

    Unread post by O Really » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:59 pm

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    Not to defend the Parkland cop since I don't know enough about it, but I do think he might be a bit of a scapegoat. That was a horrific event that few would actually be well prepared for, and - although they might be getting better now that there's an emphasis on school security - historically you don't send your best officers over to be the school's mall cop - umm, "resource officer."
    Somebody here, and I think it was I, suggested there might be some scapegoating here, along with creative charges. Seems others agree:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriffs-dep ... 16004.html

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    Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:35 am

    O Really wrote:
    Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:59 pm
    O Really wrote:
    Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:36 pm
    Not to defend the Parkland cop since I don't know enough about it, but I do think he might be a bit of a scapegoat. That was a horrific event that few would actually be well prepared for, and - although they might be getting better now that there's an emphasis on school security - historically you don't send your best officers over to be the school's mall cop - umm, "resource officer."
    Somebody here, and I think it was I, suggested there might be some scapegoating here, along with creative charges. Seems others agree:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriffs-dep ... 16004.html
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    Unread post by O Really » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:50 pm

    Interesting, non-political, knowledgeable article on carrying a gun around for "protection."

    https://www.outsideonline.com/2397355/d ... -with-guns

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    Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:03 am

    O Really wrote:
    Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:50 pm
    Interesting, non-political, knowledgeable article on carrying a gun around for "protection."

    https://www.outsideonline.com/2397355/d ... -with-guns
    ... Second, hikers and backpackers are notorious gram counters. Are you seriously going to agonize for months over how to save a few grams on your stove, tent, and shoes, and then pack two pounds of loaded pistol on your hip? ...
    Always reason enough for me not to carry on trails.
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    Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:50 am

    Gun Seller That Bet Big on Hillary Clinton Getting Elected Goes Bankrupt

    Anyone can make a bad business gamble. The important takeaway here is that ammosexuals can be so reliably frightened into a panicked, pants-wetting frenzy of fetish toy purchasing whenever a Dem is elected.
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    Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:47 am

    McConnell spends 2 months blocking protection for domestic violence victims
    The self-proclaimed 'grim reaper' is sitting on a bill that would keep violent and dangerous domestic abusers from obtaining guns.


    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's refusal to do his job and take up House-passed bills could have dire consequences for victims of domestic violence and those around them.

    It's been 74 days since the House voted to reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act, a bill that strengthens legal protections and funds support services for victims of domestic violence and sexual assault.

    But the McConnell-led GOP Senate has yet to take up the bill to extend and update VAWA — which lapsed back in February. And the longer VAWA stays lapsed, the more likely it is that services like shelters and crisis centers will suffer.

    The House passed the bill on April 4, but 157 Republicans voted against it because they objected to a provision that bars known domestic abusers from having guns. The shambolic and financially struggling National Rifle Association opposes the bill for that reason, and almost every House Republican cowed to the NRA's demand to vote against it.

    But the provision is important for protecting victims. Abused women are five times more likely to be murdered if their abuser owns a firearm.

    And keeping guns out of the hands of domestic abusers saves even more lives, since mass shootings and domestic violence are strongly correlated. According to an ABC News review from January, of the 20 mass shootings in 2018 where four or more people other than the shooter were killed, 10 were "instances of either intimate partner or family violence."

    It's unclear why McConnell is refusing to take up VAWA. A Senate aide told HuffPost's Jennifer Bendery that there's "nothing to report" about where the Senate stands on reauthorizing VAWA.

    McConnell, however, has bragged about blocking every piece of legislation the Democratic-passed House has sent to his chamber, no matter how sensible or important. McConnell even dubbed himself the "grim reaper," and is selling campaign merchandise with that nickname that he's clearly very proud of.

    McConnell is blocking a number of other House-passed bills on everything from election security to gun control.

    And real people suffering from domestic violence and sexual assault could simply be another casualty of McConnell's blanket policy of blocking anything House Democrats are doing in order to make Trump's dwindling base happy.
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    Unread post by O Really » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:05 am

    Vrede too wrote:
    Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:47 am

    It's unclear why McConnell is refusing to take up VAWA.
    Well, no, it's not.

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    Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:08 am

    O Really wrote:
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    Well, no, it's not.
    Not my words. More accurate would be:
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    It's unclear why McConnell is refusing to take up VAWA.
    Or:
    It's unclear why McConnell is refusing to take up VAWA.
    Yeah, I noticed that it's clunky when several reasons are cited in the article. Emily Singer could have clarified that it's unclear which is more important:
    Hatred of women and other victims of domestic violence and sexual assault;
    Love of guns;
    Fear of the NRA;
    Desire to block "anything House Democrats are doing" out of spite, for some partisan advantage, or "in order to make Trump's dwindling base happy."

    Granted there's overlap, but do you have a favorite? I don't, I could have just as easily put this in the women's, wingnutties or 2020 thread.
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    Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:29 am

    I'm torn between not acting on anything Democrats have done just for spite and fear of the NRA but lean to the latter.

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    Unread post by O Really » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:31 am

    "Block anything Dems do..." Without doubt.

    Fear of NRA, sure, but there are a lot of bills that aren't gun-related he could work on.

    Hatred of women..., meh, it's all politics.

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    Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:18 pm

    Newtown parents score a win in growing fight against hoaxers

    The father of a victim of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre has won a defamation lawsuit against the authors of a book that claimed the shooting never happened — the latest victory for victims' relatives who have been taking a more aggressive stance against conspiracy theorists.

    The book, "Nobody Died at Sandy Hook," has also been pulled from shelves to settle claims against its publisher filed by Lenny Pozner, whose 6-year-old son Noah was killed in the shooting....
    :---P
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    Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:10 pm

    Vrede too wrote:
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    Newtown parents score a win in growing fight against hoaxers

    The father of a victim of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre has won a defamation lawsuit against the authors of a book that claimed the shooting never happened — the latest victory for victims' relatives who have been taking a more aggressive stance against conspiracy theorists.

    The book, "Nobody Died at Sandy Hook," has also been pulled from shelves to settle claims against its publisher filed by Lenny Pozner, whose 6-year-old son Noah was killed in the shooting....
    :---P
    I saw a story this morning about how Jones lawyers had forwarded a bunch of emails to the plaintiff lawyers and that the metadata in some of them contained child pornography; Jones says he had no idea and that a lot of the emails in the batch were ones he'd never opened. Sure thing. With any luck this moron will face child porn charges. Jones has offered a million dollar "reward" for anyone who can determine where the stuff came from. I figure that's just an attempt to cover his ass in this.

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    Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:22 pm

    neoplacebo wrote:
    Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:10 pm
    I saw a story this morning about how Jones lawyers had forwarded a bunch of emails to the plaintiff lawyers and that the metadata in some of them contained child pornography; Jones says he had no idea and that a lot of the emails in the batch were ones he'd never opened. Sure thing. With any luck this moron will face child porn charges. Jones has offered a million dollar "reward" for anyone who can determine where the stuff came from. I figure that's just an attempt to cover his ass in this.
    With all of the sick and twisted things that Alex Jones is proven to have said and done, is it really that much worse to suggest a possible connection to child pornography?
    It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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    Re: Gun Legislation

    Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:54 pm

    Vrede too wrote:
    Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:22 pm
    neoplacebo wrote:
    Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:10 pm
    I saw a story this morning about how Jones lawyers had forwarded a bunch of emails to the plaintiff lawyers and that the metadata in some of them contained child pornography; Jones says he had no idea and that a lot of the emails in the batch were ones he'd never opened. Sure thing. With any luck this moron will face child porn charges. Jones has offered a million dollar "reward" for anyone who can determine where the stuff came from. I figure that's just an attempt to cover his ass in this.
    With all of the sick and twisted things that Alex Jones is proven to have said and done, is it really that much worse to suggest a possible connection to child pornography?
    Not sure, but it seems that there's a universal abhorrence of child pornography, even among right wing nutjobs. Of course, this could change if the concept of "fake child pornography" gains credence.

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