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Re: Immigration

Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:55 pm

Happy 7th birthday, DACA! FU, 45SHOLE.
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Re: Immigration

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neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:50 am
I'm elderly and am slap full of compassion for me and my kind.
PSST... I already assumed that that you were.
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      Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:51 am

      Trial revives debate: When does border humanitarian aid become a crime?

      When being humane is outlawed, only outlaws will be humane.

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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:56 pm

      Opps, I was a few days behind the news. Continuing on the theme of Repugs trying to repress effective protest:
      Felony Trial of No More Deaths Volunteer Scott Warren Ends in Mistrial

      ... Eight jurors believed Warren was innocent on all counts. Four believed he was guilty....
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      It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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      Re: Immigration

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      IRS Defends Giving Refunds to Illegal Immigrants: https://insider.foxnews.com/2015/03/02/ ... dowYV3WAkQ
      "Only God can do this and I give him all the glory. I know where my strength comes from and I know it's simply by his grace that I've been able to walk this walk and walk this journey." - Dabo Swinney

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      Re: Immigration

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      1 CAT FAN wrote:
      Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:01 am
      IRS Defends Giving Refunds to Illegal Immigrants: https://insider.foxnews.com/2015/03/02/ ... dowYV3WAkQ
      I can defend this much more easily than giving corporations that actually paid NO tax hundreds of millions in "refunds" and Jim Jordan should be able to as well, but he won't see it that way. He prefers handing out those millions instead of giving someone who works a low paying job a few hundred bucks after they actually pay into the system; I think the maximum EIC is about $1,800 but am not sure. It sure as hell isn't millions.

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      Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:25 am

      Undocumented immigrants pay in hundreds of billions in taxes for social security, Medicare/Medicaid, etc. that they will never be able to benefit from.
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      Re: Immigration

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      Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:30 am

      Tell the National Sheriffs' Association: Stop enabling Trump and Miller's hate

      The petition to the National Sheriffs' Association reads:

      "Protect, don't demonize and terrorize, the communities you serve. Stop promoting jail to deportation programs and cut ties with FAIR and other anti-immigrant hate groups."
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      Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:42 pm

      Aghast Twitter Foes Slam DOJ Lawyer Who Argued Against Soap, Beds For Migrant Kids

      ... Some Twitter users defended Fabian — slightly — saying she is just the face of a cruel Trump administration — and that many others are just as responsible for denying basic items to children that are routinely provided to serial killers in American prisons.

      But for the most part, angry critics piled on her, and even provided her phone number for anyone who wanted to make a personal complaint (her voice mailbox was full Saturday, one caller reported)....
      Michael Scott Moore
      ‏Verified account @MichaelSctMoore

      Somali pirates gave me toothpaste & soap.
      Robert Reich
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      How do these people sleep at night?
      Jon Cryer
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      Dear Sarah Fabian

      I understand attorneys must sometimes advocate for things they don’t agree with.

      But I can’t imagine that you took your job with the hope that you’d be asking the courts to approve rules that actually hurt children.

      You don’t have to do this.
      Michelle Goldberg
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      In some sense everyone who defends this administration is Sarah Fabian
      Colin “Ban the Nazis” O'Boyle
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      "There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels...and you've got to make it stop!" —Mario Savio
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      I wish to one day have the audacity to do something as Sarah Fabian did when she argued that kids don't need soap, toothbrushes and blankets in front of a judge who literally spent 3 years in a Japanese Internment camp.

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      Lots more.
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      Re: Immigration

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      It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:36 pm

      (Boston) Wayfair employees protest alleged sale of furniture for border detention facility
      “We believe it is our business to sell to any customer who is acting within the laws of the countries within which we operate,” the company’s CEO responded in a statement.


      Many employees at the home goods retailer Wayfair staged a walkout Wednesday after discovering what they believe is a large order of bedroom furniture the company fulfilled for a contractor that works with facilities detaining children near the US-Mexico border.

      According to a letter signed by almost 550 employees, Wayfair has sold $200,000 worth of furniture to a nonprofit organization called BCFS. An order from BCFS was surfaced in the company’s Slack (a group chat platform) last week, and concerns began circulating when employees looked into the organization’s mission....

      The furniture, according to the employee letter, was sent to a facility opening in Carrizo Springs, Texas, that will be “outfitted to detain up to 3,000 migrant children.” These kinds of facilities have come under increasing scrutiny and condemnation as reports about appalling conditions emerge....
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      Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:15 pm

      Vrede too wrote:
      Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:36 pm
      (Boston) Wayfair employees protest alleged sale of furniture for border detention facility
      “We believe it is our business to sell to any customer who is acting within the laws of the countries within which we operate,” the company’s CEO responded in a statement.


      Many employees at the home goods retailer Wayfair staged a walkout Wednesday after discovering what they believe is a large order of bedroom furniture the company fulfilled for a contractor that works with facilities detaining children near the US-Mexico border.

      According to a letter signed by almost 550 employees, Wayfair has sold $200,000 worth of furniture to a nonprofit organization called BCFS. An order from BCFS was surfaced in the company’s Slack (a group chat platform) last week, and concerns began circulating when employees looked into the organization’s mission....

      The furniture, according to the employee letter, was sent to a facility opening in Carrizo Springs, Texas, that will be “outfitted to detain up to 3,000 migrant children.” These kinds of facilities have come under increasing scrutiny and condemnation as reports about appalling conditions emerge....
      :-||


      But, but Dan Bongobongo said that liberals are stupid. So there.

      https://www.conservativereview.com/news ... world-cup/
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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:36 pm

      billy.pilgrim wrote:
      Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:15 pm
      But, but Dan Bongobongo said that liberals are stupid. So there.

      https://www.conservativereview.com/news ... world-cup/
      :oops: I am so abashed, paragon of intelligence, integrity and electoral success that he is.
      Dan Bongino
      Since when do you peruse the Conservative Review?

      Wondering how to help kids and their parents at the Border? This is how!
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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by neoplacebo » Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:38 pm

      Immigration man. My favorite Graham Nash song; pertinent even now
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzE227yE1hk

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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:44 pm

      neoplacebo wrote:
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      Immigration man. My favorite Graham Nash song; pertinent even now
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzE227yE1hk
      :thumbup: Thanks.

      Interesting backstory, personal to Nash: Immigration Man.
      David Crosby and Dave Mason on electric guitar, can't beat that.

      It was released as a single in 1972.
      Trevor Dodd posted it to YT 2008. I presume that the excellent "animated editorial by Andrew Thomas" was produced about the same time, no earlier than 2006 (2:00).
      Both the song and video could have been made yesterday, sigh. I was already thinking this when I saw the first comment:
      Either way you slice it, it's a timeless song.
      Lots of hateful anti-immigrant posts, too :( . But, there's also:
      This is one of the greatest songs that Melania Trump ever wrote
      :D
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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by neoplacebo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:54 am

      Vrede too wrote:
      Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:44 pm
      neoplacebo wrote:
      Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:38 pm
      Immigration man. My favorite Graham Nash song; pertinent even now
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzE227yE1hk
      :thumbup: Thanks.

      Interesting backstory, personal to Nash: Immigration Man.
      David Crosby and Dave Mason on electric guitar, can't beat that.

      It was released as a single in 1972.
      Trevor Dodd posted it to YT 2008. I presume that the excellent "animated editorial by Andrew Thomas" was produced about the same time, no earlier than 2006 (2:00).
      Both the song and video could have been made yesterday, sigh. I was already thinking this when I saw the first comment:
      Either way you slice it, it's a timeless song.
      Lots of hateful anti-immigrant posts, too :( . But, there's also:
      This is one of the greatest songs that Melania Trump ever wrote
      :D
      I always liked that song; it was never very popular when it came out but as you say, is certainly apropos nearly fifty years later.

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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:44 am

      Not that many years ago much of the country was horrified to learn that we'd become a direct torture state, covertly abusing scores of mostly adult enemy combatants and innocents. We lamented how far our nation had sunk into evil immorality. Then, we probably stopped the direct barbarity and reverted to our decades old practice of fostering client torture states, instead, while choosing not to prosecute any of our American torturers. Not great by any means, but it did feel like we'd pulled back from the abyss.

      Now, we openly kidnap and abuse thousands of children, and neither they nor their parents are even enemies.

      We suck.
      It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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