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Re: Immigration

Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:12 pm

O Really said that Mexico is very nice.
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Re: Immigration

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:33 pm

Tell the National Sheriffs' Association: Step Away from the Hate Groups!

Over the past two years, ICE and Sheriffs have entered into an unprecedented number of jail deportation agreements. Through programs like the infamous 287G that allows ICE to deputize Sheriffs, the Trump administration is expanding the number of police forces that respond to his despicable worldview.

It’s time to expose the hate groups behind these programs, and demand that Sheriffs stop working with all of them.
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Re: Immigration

Unread post by O Really » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:38 pm

O Really said in some places Mexico is very nice. But even the nicest places aren't equally nice to all. Point being, though, no matter how nice the country a person comes through or from, what justification is there for being cruel to children?

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Re: Immigration

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:00 pm

O Really wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:38 pm
O Really said in some places Mexico is very nice. But even the nicest places aren't equally nice to all. Point being, though, no matter how nice the country a person comes through or from, what justification is there for being cruel to children?
Wait, s/he cowered from your question the first two times you asked? Surprise, surprise. Some people in law enforcement sure are pansies.
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Re: Immigration

Unread post by O Really » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:28 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:00 pm
O Really wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:38 pm
O Really said in some places Mexico is very nice. But even the nicest places aren't equally nice to all. Point being, though, no matter how nice the country a person comes through or from, what justification is there for being cruel to children?
Wait, s/he cowered from your question the first two times you asked? Surprise, surprise. Some people in law enforcement sure are pansies.
I suspect he doesn't know/care who is at the border, why they're there, or what the government of arguably richest country in the world is doing to them. He likely doesn't know/care that separating children from parents and keeping the children in the equivalent of cages has nothing to do with immigration and serves no useful purpose outside of cruelty for its own sake. He probably also doesn't know/care that immigration policy worked very well from a (gasp) Reagan policy that provided a means of "getting legal" and worked until the instant furriner-phobia that began on 9/12. He probably doesn't know/care that those seeking asylum by trying to follow the law would be better off to be left to their own resources to live in the desert or streets than to be jailed, caged, and denied common care provided to criminals, war prisoners, and Taliban captives.

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Re: Immigration

Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:23 am

O Really wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:38 pm
O Really said in some places Mexico is very nice.
You would think someone would have passed along that information to these hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants.
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Re: Immigration

Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:33 am

Do you have any spare time for children. rhetorical
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    Re: Immigration

    Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am

    If I had the money, I would buy a bunch of those navy blue shirts with big yellow FBI letters on the back (they sell these on ebay) and hand them out at the border. That way, a lot of these people seeking asylum would not be fucked with so much.

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    Re: Immigration

    Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:40 am

    O Really wrote:
    Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:28 pm
    I suspect he doesn't know/care who is at the border, why they're there, or what the government of arguably richest country in the world is doing to them. He likely doesn't know/care that separating children from parents and keeping the children in the equivalent of cages has nothing to do with immigration and serves no useful purpose outside of cruelty for its own sake. He probably also doesn't know/care that immigration policy worked very well from a (gasp) Reagan policy that provided a means of "getting legal" and worked until the instant furriner-phobia that began on 9/12. He probably doesn't know/care that those seeking asylum by trying to follow the law would be better off to be left to their own resources to live in the desert or streets than to be jailed, caged, and denied common care provided to criminals, war prisoners, and Taliban captives.
    Are you saying that s/he is an ignoramus, and a child just here to smear her/his shit on the walls without sincere beliefs or interest in mature discussion? Makes sense to me, but you know her/him better than I do.
    Vrede too wrote:
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    O Really wrote:
    Sat May 04, 2019 7:47 pm
    You have any idea how many of your posts are just generic taunting? Whether it's sports, politics, religion, whatever, you post only taunts. Why don't you occasionally pick something you'd like to talk about and maybe you would get better responses and less ridicule.
    Immature 'nyah, nyah, nyah' is all s/he's got ...
    It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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    Re: Immigration

    Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:21 am

    Vrede too wrote:
    Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:40 am
    O Really wrote:
    Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:28 pm
    I suspect he doesn't know/care who is at the border, why they're there, or what the government of arguably richest country in the world is doing to them. He likely doesn't know/care that separating children from parents and keeping the children in the equivalent of cages has nothing to do with immigration and serves no useful purpose outside of cruelty for its own sake. He probably also doesn't know/care that immigration policy worked very well from a (gasp) Reagan policy that provided a means of "getting legal" and worked until the instant furriner-phobia that began on 9/12. He probably doesn't know/care that those seeking asylum by trying to follow the law would be better off to be left to their own resources to live in the desert or streets than to be jailed, caged, and denied common care provided to criminals, war prisoners, and Taliban captives.
    Are you saying that s/he is an ignoramus, and a child just here to smear her/his shit on the walls without sincere beliefs or interest in mature discussion? Makes sense to me, but you know her/him better than I do.
    Vrede too wrote:
    Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:17 am
    O Really wrote:
    Sat May 04, 2019 7:47 pm
    You have any idea how many of your posts are just generic taunting? Whether it's sports, politics, religion, whatever, you post only taunts. Why don't you occasionally pick something you'd like to talk about and maybe you would get better responses and less ridicule.
    Immature 'nyah, nyah, nyah' is all s/he's got ...
    Are y'all talking about that homer guy, is he back?
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    Re: Immigration

    Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:24 am

    The responses and posts made by 1 FAT CAN are, to me, like a third grade student suddenly finds himself in a university class and becomes paralyzed by the terrible realization that he's out of his league but tries to fake it anyway. The results of this are always tragicomic.

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    Re: Immigration

    Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:29 am

    You’re still living life in a classroom, Neo?
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    Re: Immigration

    Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:36 am

    It’s just as well, Vrede doesn’t get out much either.
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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:38 am

      neoplacebo wrote:
      Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am
      If I had the money, I would buy a bunch of those navy blue shirts with big yellow FBI letters on the back (they sell these on ebay) and hand them out at the border. That way, a lot of these people seeking asylum would not be fucked with so much.
      Nah, they'd start torturing the adults without 'FBI' shirts and abusing their kids.
      It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:58 am

      Palantir is supercharging ICE

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      The petition to Palantir reads:

      "Stop profiting from the suffering of migrants and asylum-seekers. Drop your contracts with ICE."
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      Re: Immigration

      Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:06 pm

      Why Are Democrats Misleading Us About Immigration - Democrats Speak
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        Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:54 pm

        Hungry, Scared and Sick: Inside the Migrant Detention Center in Clint, Tex.
        An out-of-the-way border station in the desert outside of El Paso has become the epicenter of outrage over the Trump administration’s policies on the southwest border.
        End the Border Patrol

        It's time to tear down the U.S. Border Patrol. And I mean tear it down entirely: Fire its staff, close its detention centers, and start over from scratch.

        Why? Because new details confirm that this agency is fraught with problems. And extreme problems often require extreme solutions.

        This week put the agency under an unflattering spotlight. A ProPublica investigation into a Facebook group composed of current and former Border Patrol agents revealed these people "joked about the deaths of migrants, discussed throwing burritos at Latino members of Congress visiting a detention facility in Texas on Monday, and posted a vulgar illustration depicting Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez engaged in oral sex with a detained migrant."

        Awful. Disgusting. Reprehensible. But then things got worse.

        A group of congressional Democrats, including Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.), visited migrant detention centers in Texas and found "appalling" conditions, operated by a staff apparently hostile to congressional oversight, where migrant women "were held in cells without water and told by officers to drink out of the toilet."

        "This has been horrifying so far," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. "It is hard to understate the enormity of the problem. We're talking systemic cruelty w/ a dehumanizing culture that treats them like animals." ...

        So yeah, this is a disaster for the Border Patrol. Let's shut it down....

        How should we rebuild and replace the Border Patrol? Very carefully. WOLA, a non-governmental agency that advocates for human rights in the Americas, has offered suggestions for revamping the nation's border security. Its agenda includes requiring border agents to wear body cameras, increasing the staff of internal affairs investigators, and adopting a new approach that makes detention a last resort. It suggests expanding a program that once used caseworkers to keep in frequent touch with asylum-seeking families. Such an approach would require rethinking immigration policy with humanitarian concerns in mind, instead of continually finding new and more troubling ways to deter migrants....

        It's tempting to sympathize. But there has long been a growing pile of evidence that the agency's culture is saturated with racism and indifference to human life. There's no reason to believe the Border Patrol, as presently constituted, is culturally capable of handling its duties in a professional or humane fashion. This week's events should be the tipping point. It's time to dissolve the agency and start over.
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        Re: Immigration

        Unread post by neoplacebo » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:21 pm

        1 CAT FAN wrote:
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        You’re still living life in a classroom, Neo?
        Life is a classroom; my condolences on your being expelled.

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        Re: Immigration

        Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:54 pm

        neoplacebo wrote:
        Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:21 pm
        1 CAT FAN wrote:
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        You’re still living life in a classroom, Neo?
        Life is a classroom; my condolences on your being expelled.
        Took awhile for a comeback...eh?

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        Student - Jonah was swallowed by a whale.
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        Student - Then, You ask him.
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        Re: Immigration

        Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:04 pm

        neoplacebo wrote:
        Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:21 pm
        Life is a classroom; my condolences on your being expelled.
        :lol:
        It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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