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Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by neoplacebo » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:30 am

Vrede too wrote:
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Charges and jail for safely taking your choking infant to the ER, but:

Officer will not face charges after accidentally shooting suspect in the stomach

The Blue Opps defense.
I came across that story too and saw the cop cam video of it. I understand how things can get hectic in such situations but, gee, mistaking a gun for a taser is kind of a stretch. Just about a week ago another "I thought my gun was a taser" incident happened; it was a traffic stop and the black guy refused to get out of the vehicle so the cop drags him out and they wrestle on the ground a few seconds and then a female cop who was with the other one shoots the driver and uses this same excuse. Maybe tasers should be painted pink or given some other notable obvious characteristic; not sure but I think the female taser shooter was fired over it. Maybe tasers should be replaced with Bull Buster cattle prods; they don't look anything like a gun.

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Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:46 am

neoplacebo wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:30 am
I came across that story too and saw the cop cam video of it. I understand how things can get hectic in such situations but, gee, mistaking a gun for a taser is kind of a stretch. Just about a week ago another "I thought my gun was a taser" incident happened; it was a traffic stop and the black guy refused to get out of the vehicle so the cop drags him out and they wrestle on the ground a few seconds and then a female cop who was with the other one shoots the driver and uses this same excuse. Maybe tasers should be painted pink or given some other notable obvious characteristic; not sure but I think the female taser shooter was fired over it. Maybe tasers should be replaced with Bull Buster cattle prods; they don't look anything like a gun.
This cop apparently violated policy by wearing both on the same hip. So, there's a known risk, policy is put in place to reduce that risk, the cop ignores that policy and a citizen is severely injured, yet the cop skates. :roll:

I'm not sure that visual cues will work given the nature of close quarter altercations. Maybe each should require a double trigger pull, with the taser producing an 'Aaahooogggaaa' on the first pull and the gun a shouted 'BANG!' in Clint Eastwood's voice. The former will often cause a perp to melt in laughter and I know the latter would scare me into submission, thus usually negating the need for a second trigger pull with either.
It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:57 am

It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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Unread post by neoplacebo » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:50 pm

I think it would be a good idea to send Jeff Sessions and Roy Moore into the Alabama state prison system in an undercover role to get to the root of this. It might take a couple years to do an adequate investigation. Roy will be sent to share cell space with "Big Lance" who is very well versed in prison shenanigans and can generally ferret out anything suspicious. Jeff will be tasked with growing out his hair, if he can, and also affecting a scraggly beard. That, along with his natural guilty look, should get him into the right situations to figure out what's going on there.

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Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by neoplacebo » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:26 am

Just finished reading "The Black and the Blue" by Matthew Horace, a black former police officer and ultimately a high ranking ATF agent. It's a good treatise on the issues of race relations and police brutality over the past decades written from personal experience of the author.

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