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Re: Syria/Iraq

Unread post by JTA » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:54 pm

Goddamn Europe is fucked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPb91eT ... be&t=4m29s

German friend of mine was saying it's not so bad in the large cities. She was saying people in her town (a medium sized city) are becoming pretty pissed though as there's a noticeable change. Another thing they're worried about is the growth of right wing extremists that have been gaining some traction in response to so many migrants flooding in.



The West's ham-fisted response in Iraq, Syria, and Libya are to blame, there's no doubt. Even Ghadaffi warned this would've happened if he was knocked out of power. Lo and behold.

And don't get me wrong, legit Syrian refugees with families and what not, yeah help those guys out.

On another note: "What in God's cock is going on?"

I think I've found a new saying. The guy in the video has some homerphobe caliber insults, I'll give him that. They should give him his own TV show where they put him in situations that make him mad just so we can hear him rant off insults.
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Unread post by rstrong » Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:31 pm

JTA wrote:The West's ham-fisted response in Iraq, Syria, and Libya are to blame, there's no doubt. Even Ghadaffi warned this would've happened if he was knocked out of power.
Keep in mind that this sort of thing pre-dates the Syrian problem and Ghadaffi's overthrow. In fact large numbers of Libyan refugees showing on Europe's southern coast was the main reason why the west suddenly took an interest in overthrowing Ghadaffi. The Syria situation simply made it worse.

The camp in Calais has long been "last stop" before Britain, where refugees can be treated as refugees with the right to asylum, rather than illegal immigrants / prisoners. Demolishing that camp and moving people to camps farther away - as they're doing this week - is destroying a lot of their hopes.

What you're seeing isn't Europe in general, not by a long shot. It's the immediate area around the camp in Calais.

Before ANY of those problems, France was already making it worse. They brought in workers from Africa the way America brings in workers from Mexico. But neither they nor their children nor their grandchildren born in France were given citizenship. And so you have large numbers of children of immigrants born and raised in France who aren't even second-class citizens. And they know it. And they've rioted.

Now imagine this in a country where large-scale riots by union workers, students, cab drivers and farmers are common. Where bossnappings - strikers kidnapping their bosses and holding them hostage - is a time-honored negotiating tactic. What you're seeing is the French equivalent of picketing.

Despite right-wingnut claims, it won't happen in the US. Refugees there are given citizenship. Even children born of illegal immigrants are given citizenship.

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Unread post by rstrong » Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:31 pm

OK, so there have been some unpredicted results.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:02 pm

CosPlay is a greater threat to our way of life than Islam.

It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt . . .



. . . or soils their pants.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:23 am

Stop F-15E Fighter Jet Sale to Qatar

To be delivered to The United States House of Representatives, The United States Senate, and President Barack Obama:

Sale of F-15E fighter jets to Qatar should not go forward until Qatar cracks down on financing of Al Qaeda in Syria.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:34 pm



Being A Refugee Doesn't Make You A Criminal

Refugees who come to this country seeking a safe home for their families won’t find it in South Carolina. At least, not if South Carolina lawmakers have their way.

They’re trying to pass S. 997 – a bill that, if passed, would immediately turn refugees into suspected criminals.

It would require law enforcement to investigate refugees – even after they’re vetted by FBI, the National Counterterrorism Center, the Department of Homeland Security, the State Department, and the U.N.

This is not about danger or national security. This is about irrational fear and xenophobia.

Refugees need safety and protection in South Carolina – not more persecution. Add your name now to oppose S. 997.
To Governor Nikki Haley:

Do not allow S. 997 to become law. It is a xenophobic policy promoted by a fearmongering few – and it is thoroughly un-American. In your Republican Address to the Nation, you reminded us that, “During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation.” Resist this temptation now – pledge to veto S. 997.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed May 04, 2016 2:16 pm

:lol: Good timing on that one.

From Just Foreign Policy:
Your Representative in Congress - Rep. Mark Meadows - was one of 27 Members who signed a bipartisan letter to President Obama urging him to maintain his opposition to sending MANPADs to Syrian insurgents.

Please call Rep. Mark Meadows at (202) 225-6401 and say thank you - and ask them to take another step to limit military escalation.

When you reach a staffer, you can say something like,

"As your constituent, I thank you for your leadership in signing the Conyers-Yoho letter against sending MANPADs to Syrian insurgents. I urge you to co-sponsor the Lieu-Yoho bill, HJR 90, to condition US military support for Saudi Arabia on Saudi cooperation against terrorism and protection of civilians in Yemen." ...
Man-portable air-defense systems (MANPADS or MPADS) are shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles (SAMs). They are typically guided weapons and are a threat to low-flying aircraft, especially helicopters.

I'm not calling, Meadows probably did it for the wrong reasons.

Back Murphy-Paul-Lieu-Yoho Limits on Weapons to Saudis (petition)
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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun May 15, 2016 12:36 pm

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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:04 am

Make Ban on Cluster Bomb Transfers to Saudi Arabia Permanent

Petition by Robert Naiman

To be delivered to The United States House of Representatives and The United States Senate

Congress should enact President Obama's ban on transferring cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia into law.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:57 pm

AMENDMENT TO H.R. 5293, AS REPORTED
OFFERED BY MR. CONYERS OFMICHIGAN

At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert
the following:

1 SEC. . None of the funds made available by this
2 Act may be used to transfer or authorize the transfer of
3 any cluster munitions to Saudi Arabia.
Ayes 204, Noes 216

Republican: Ayes 40, Noes 200
Democratic: Ayes 164, Noes 16

My Meadows (R-NC11) Aye :clap:
He's on the The Middle East and North Africa Subcommittee (Foreign Affairs)
McHenry (R-NC10) No
Message Subject: CONYERS AMENDMENT TO H.R. 5293

Thank you for your vote to ban the transfer of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia. Better luck next time.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:09 pm

.@TimKaine: Keep the Faith on Syria War Powers (Petition)

Pledge that as Vice-President, you'll continue to insist that the Administration comply with the War Powers Resolution concerning any military action in Syria.
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Unread post by rstrong » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:35 pm

As of July 17th, Canada has resettled 29,207 Syrian refugees. Another 2,479 applications are finalized, but the refugees have not yet travelled to Canada. A further 17,523 applications are in progress.

They're being spread out in over 300 communities across Canada. The idea is to integrate them into Canadian society, rather than having European-style ghettos and enclaves.

A wonderful thing happened on Wednesday when one family got lost....

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:09 pm

:clap: :-|| and even a little :cry: .
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Unread post by rstrong » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:30 pm

Well, both countries have done this before on a larger scale. Vietnamese boat people after the Vietnam War for example. The United States resettled 402,382 refugees. Canada resettled 100,012.

I understand the political climate in the United States is a tad different now....

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:54 pm

Plus, it was harder to deny our responsibility to the Vietnamese boat people. Many more nations and groups have Syrian blood on their hands.
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Unread post by rstrong » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:45 pm

rstrong wrote:Well, both countries have done this before on a larger scale. Vietnamese boat people after the Vietnam War for example. The United States resettled 402,382 refugees. Canada resettled 100,012.
We just had another boat people crisis. 1,500 Americans came ashore illegally in Ontario on rafts and inner tubes yesterday, and had to be rescued by the Canadian Coast Guard, Border Service Agency and police.
"There were people in places you'd never think something would float, but there were Americans everywhere," Peter Garapick of the Canadian Coast Guard said.
This is only going to get worse if Trump wins in October.

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Unread post by neoplacebo » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:11 pm

If Trump wins in October, I will figure something has been rigged. :shock:

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Unread post by Vrede too » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:00 pm

If Hillary wins in October, I will figure something has been rigged. :P
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Unread post by rstrong » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:41 pm

If Jeb! wins in October, I will figure something has been rigged. :lol:

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