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Unread post by O Really » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:07 pm

Maybe some of you soccer/futbal fans can explain the difference in FIFA accepting "bribes" for their votes to hold the World Cup in various places and Volvo accepting "incentives" to build their plant in SC. Yes, I understand bribery with regard to public officials, but isn't FIFA a private corporation? Couldn't they say, "give us a pile of money and we'll bring a tournament to your town"? Isn't that what NFL teams and the NFL do with cities? Serious question.

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Unread post by GoCubsGo » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:28 pm

Any different than the Olympics?
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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:37 pm

FIFA is an association established under the Laws of Switzerland. I'm not sure how that differs from a private corporation, or if it matters. It's a massive institution spanning 209 nations - the UN only has 193 - and its power and economic impact far exceeds its own annual revenue of over $1.3 billion.

So, I don't think its corruption is different in principle from any other public or private, legal or illegal corruption. More people are angered and saddened by it, though. Good on the US and others for going after the bastards.
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Unread post by O Really » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:26 pm

So the US "and others" can chase them because they have member organizations in the US? I know the US charges are RICO stuff, but I don't have sufficient interest to dig into exactly how the jurisdictions go or how the charges were determined. I just thought what they're calling "bribes" sound a lot like "incentives."

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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:52 pm

I'm not following it closely, either. I believe the ones charged by the US have some connection to the US in carrying out the crimes they are alleged to have committed, not just "because they have member organizations in the US". If not, I'm fine with them not being extradited and then being prosecuted elsewhere.

I think the exposure and, hopefully, reform is more important in the long run than the results of the prosecutions.

Yes, there's overlap between "bribes" and "incentives" but, in general, incentives should be transparent and go to FIFA, not secretly to individuals.
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Unread post by O Really » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:57 pm

Vrede too wrote: Yes, there's overlap between "bribes" and "incentives" but, in general, incentives should be transparent and go to FIFA, not secretly to individuals.
Apparently it wasn't all that secret :roll:

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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:03 pm

:D
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Unread post by rstrong » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:14 pm

O Really wrote:
Vrede too wrote: Yes, there's overlap between "bribes" and "incentives" but, in general, incentives should be transparent and go to FIFA, not secretly to individuals.
Apparently it wasn't all that secret :roll:
No, but they broke the rule where they weren't allows to take bribes using their hands.

In any case, the newly-elected FIFA President has announced he's resigning. Sepp Blatter will go back to sounding like something you look up on WebMD.

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