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Texts and emails allegedly detail Nike’s willingness to pay high schoolers, including Zion Williamson

Also mentioned:
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Deandre Ayton
Controversial lawyer Michael Avenatti
Adidas
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Rick Pitino
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:10 am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk ... ar-AAHBo7P

I sure hope Auburn wasn't involved and that everyone, including Auburn if involved, who was goes down.

It's getting as bad as politics.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:53 am

billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:10 am
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk ... ar-AAHBo7P

I sure hope Auburn wasn't involved and that everyone, including Auburn if involved, who was goes down.

It's getting as bad as politics.
Kansas
North Carolina State
Maryland
Arizona
Auburn
Louisville
LSU
USC

Likely coincidental, but it’s interesting that schools mentioned in this article are from all of the Power 5 plus the Big East’s Creighton.

Note: This is not to say that other schools, Clemson, OR and WA for example :P , are more ethical. They're just too sucky in basketball to attract this level of corruption.

Aside: Are they still called the Power 5 in basketball, or is that exclusively football? Ah, never mind, it is just football, and it's only been around since 2006.
Power Five conferences

Still, remarkable distribution in the 9 named schools.
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:41 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:53 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:10 am
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk ... ar-AAHBo7P

I sure hope Auburn wasn't involved and that everyone, including Auburn if involved, who was goes down.

It's getting as bad as politics.
Kansas
North Carolina State
Maryland
Arizona
Auburn
Louisville
LSU
USC

Likely coincidental, but it’s interesting that schools mentioned in this article are from all of the Power 5 plus the Big East’s Creighton.

Note: This is not to say that other schools, Clemson, OR and WA for example :P , are more ethical. They're just too sucky in basketball to attract this level of corruption.

Aside: Are they still called the Power 5 in basketball, or is that exclusively football? Ah, never mind, it is just football, and it's only been around since 2006.
Power Five conferences

Still, remarkable distribution in the 9 named schools.
Obviously Auburn was involved, I meant, hopefully there is nothing else. I think that we were more than adequately punished for what was done.

wasn't Clemson caught for some basketball infraction recently? and wasn't the football program mentioned.
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Re: College basketball

Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:16 pm

billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:41 pm
Obviously Auburn was involved, I meant, hopefully there is nothing else. I think that we were more than adequately punished for what was done.
The article says:
... ESPN recently reported that NCAA investigators were also working on cases at Arizona, Auburn, Creighton, Louisville, LSU and USC.
Sounds like something new. They really could have linked the ESPN article.
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wasn't Clemson caught for some basketball infraction recently?
Maybe. It's funny when a team cheats and still just goes to the NIT.
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and wasn't the football program mentioned.
Rings a bell. Someone was testifying or whatever and said something like, "Clemson football is cheating big time by _____." It was denied, don't know if anything came of it.
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When the teams aren't playing in arenas named Capital One, Carrier Dome, KFC Yum! Center, PNC Arena, FedEx Forum, etc., I'll try to worry about whether some kid's family gets a few extra thou to help ummm, "guide" the kid to the right school and shoe.

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O Really wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:06 pm
When the teams aren't playing in arenas named Capital One, Carrier Dome, KFC Yum! Center, PNC Arena, FedEx Forum, etc., I'll try to worry about whether some kid's family gets a few extra thou to help ummm, "guide" the kid to the right school and shoe.
You can make a strong case for that, but the rules need to be the same for all.
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:57 pm
O Really wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:06 pm
When the teams aren't playing in arenas named Capital One, Carrier Dome, KFC Yum! Center, PNC Arena, FedEx Forum, etc., I'll try to worry about whether some kid's family gets a few extra thou to help ummm, "guide" the kid to the right school and shoe.
You can make a strong case for that, but the rules need to be the same for all.
Yeah, and a lot fewer of them.

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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:49 am

how do you believe anybody

I had no idea they would use a lying war criminal to lead the way out of this mess, but then, she's had experience in turning a turd into a mound of shit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/basket ... cid=msn360

"The organization announced in late 2017, shortly after an FBI probe revealed a seedy underbelly of college basketball, the formation of a commission to provide recommendations on cleaning up the sport. Chaired by former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the panel returned a number of suggestions ranging from the reformation of AAU and youth basketball to addressing the NBA's one-and-done rule."
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:49 am
how do you believe anybody

I had no idea they would use a lying war criminal to lead the way out of this mess, but then, she's had experience in turning a turd into a mound of shit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/basket ... cid=msn360

"The organization announced in late 2017, shortly after an FBI probe revealed a seedy underbelly of college basketball, the formation of a commission to provide recommendations on cleaning up the sport. Chaired by former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the panel returned a number of suggestions ranging from the reformation of AAU and youth basketball to addressing the NBA's one-and-done rule."
She's the Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders of fucking up college sports.
http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... zza#p90336
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I think I've identified a big part of the problem in college football's ummmm, "championship."
"Selection Committee"
I seem to recall that a camel is a horse designed by a committee.
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Vrede wrote:Condi Rice expected on (BCS) playoff panel

Great, expect hundreds of lies about the strength of certain teams and the weapons they have available to them, along with massive cost overruns and a selection process that takes many bloody years before resolution.
"Probably the most important moment maybe in American history."
- Condoleezza Rice on President Bush visiting Ground Zero

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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:57 am

Vrede too wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:15 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:49 am
how do you believe anybody

I had no idea they would use a lying war criminal to lead the way out of this mess, but then, she's had experience in turning a turd into a mound of shit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/basket ... cid=msn360

"The organization announced in late 2017, shortly after an FBI probe revealed a seedy underbelly of college basketball, the formation of a commission to provide recommendations on cleaning up the sport. Chaired by former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the panel returned a number of suggestions ranging from the reformation of AAU and youth basketball to addressing the NBA's one-and-done rule."
She's the Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders of fucking up college sports.
http://www.blueridgedebate.com/forum/vi ... zza#p90336
Vrede too wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:42 pm
O Really wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:30 pm
I think I've identified a big part of the problem in college football's ummmm, "championship."
"Selection Committee"
I seem to recall that a camel is a horse designed by a committee.
rstrong wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:08 am
Vrede wrote:Condi Rice expected on (BCS) playoff panel

Great, expect hundreds of lies about the strength of certain teams and the weapons they have available to them, along with massive cost overruns and a selection process that takes many bloody years before resolution.
"Probably the most important moment maybe in American history."
- Condoleezza Rice on President Bush visiting Ground Zero

:roll:

still hard to believe that we didn't put these scum war criminals in prison, or at least turned them loose in iraq
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O Really wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:01 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:57 pm
O Really wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:06 pm
When the teams aren't playing in arenas named Capital One, Carrier Dome, KFC Yum! Center, PNC Arena, FedEx Forum, etc., I'll try to worry about whether some kid's family gets a few extra thou to help ummm, "guide" the kid to the right school and shoe.
You can make a strong case for that, but the rules need to be the same for all.
Yeah, and a lot fewer of them.
I agree that things suck, but the fix is too complicated with too many consequences for me to have an opinion on. You have lots of company:

Poll: 60 percent of adults think college athletes should profit from name, image and likeness
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:37 pm

I've come around. Pay them.
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. You have lots of company:
Including the state of California...
On Monday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill that will allow college athletes in the state to profit off their name, image and likeness, in opposition to the NCAA's bylaws.

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Including the state of California...
On Monday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill that will allow college athletes in the state to profit off their name, image and likeness, in opposition to the NCAA's bylaws.
Will be interesting to see how that shakes out. In a world where the big 4 CA schools get away with it, they'd have a huge recruiting edge. Then, there are a bunch of significant CA FCS schools.
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Unread post by O Really » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:08 pm

I'm sure a lot of lawyers will be able to buy new boats, fast cars, and beach houses off of it before the dust settles. NCAA won't just tuck tail and leave. I'm guessing they'll threaten to toss California schools out, or not recognize their wins, or keep them out of tournaments, etc.

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Unread post by O Really » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:58 pm

In yet another example of NCAA rule-makers being certified drooling idiots - Coach K is scandalized and turned in for "violation" ...

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/duke-repor ... 04872.html

Awful, just awful!

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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:38 pm

O Really wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:58 pm
In yet another example of NCAA rule-makers being certified drooling idiots - Coach K is scandalized and turned in for "violation" ...

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/duke-repor ... 04872.html

Awful, just awful!
There's a good reason for the intention of the rule. Technically Coach K did violate the law, but not the intent of the law. He was right to report the violation and hopefully everyone will move on without further penalty

It was a similar nothing event that Pearl didn't report and then lied about that cost him his Tennessee job. There's a lack of respect from other coaches and sports writers that still follows him because of the way he handled a minor chickenshit violation.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:40 pm

I wonder what rules Evansville had been breaking :D .
Top-ranked Kentucky falls at home to Evansville

... The preseason No. 2 in the AP Poll, Kentucky ascended to No. 1 with a 69-62 win over Michigan State to open the season. And then they ran into an Evansville team that out-shot, out-assisted and out-rebounded them.

Through just a week of college basketball, all three teams to get first-place votes in the preseason AP Poll — Kentucky, Michigan State and Kansas — have lost, though Kentucky’s loss is by far the most inexcusable.

Tuesday’s loss likely opens the door for Duke to take No. 1 in the next poll, but the Blue Devils’ less than impressive win over a sloppy Kansas team (the Blue Devils had 16 turnovers and 35.9 percent shooting) means that we might be in for a season without a truly dominant No. 1.
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:22 am

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Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:40 pm
I wonder what rules Evansville had been breaking :D .
Top-ranked Kentucky falls at home to Evansville

... The preseason No. 2 in the AP Poll, Kentucky ascended to No. 1 with a 69-62 win over Michigan State to open the season. And then they ran into an Evansville team that out-shot, out-assisted and out-rebounded them.

Through just a week of college basketball, all three teams to get first-place votes in the preseason AP Poll — Kentucky, Michigan State and Kansas — have lost, though Kentucky’s loss is by far the most inexcusable.

Tuesday’s loss likely opens the door for Duke to take No. 1 in the next poll, but the Blue Devils’ less than impressive win over a sloppy Kansas team (the Blue Devils had 16 turnovers and 35.9 percent shooting) means that we might be in for a season without a truly dominant No. 1.
South Alabama almost beat us. Comfortable 14 point lead with about 8 minutes left and they went on a 20 to 5 run to take the lead with 1 minute left. We won with 2 seconds left 70 to 69.
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