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If he's healthy, the Pat's are contenders.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
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If he's healthy, the Pat's are contenders.
... but I repeat myself.
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"Investors ask sponsors to cut ties with Redskins unless team changes name"

"I call on Dan Snyder once again to face that reality, since he does still desperately want to be in the nation's capital," said Eleanor Holmes Norton, D.C.'s nonvoting delegate to the House of Representatives, according to The Washington Post's Liz Clarke. "He has got a problem he can't get around - and he particularly can't get around it today, after the George Floyd killing."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/in ... &ocid=iehp

Snyder has many problems - in addition to just being a generally despised asshole. But I wonder what actual team fans have to say about a name change. Some would favour it, I'm sure, and some would oppose. I wonder what the percentage would be. I think to keep/increase the fan base, you'd have to do more than just change the name. You'd have to have a new owner, new management, new look and attitude - just as if the 'Skins moved away and DC got a replacement team. Otherwise, Dan's got more than mad-Indian, socially crude problem - he's got a Baltimore Colt/SD Charger problem - and fans got long memories.

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... Snyder has many problems ...
I agree, but I don't think Eleanor Holmes Norton and allies' goal is to keep/increase the fan base. They're probably okay with it, but are more focused. If the name changes the team can move back to DC and will retain most investors and sponsors. Beyond that is up to Snyder and the NFL.
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America Reckons With Racial Injustice
The NFL Will Play 'Lift Every Voice And Sing' Before Each Season-Opener Game


"Lift Every Voice and Sing" will be played or performed live before every Week 1 NFL game, as the league considers ways to recognize victims of systemic racism.

The song known as the Black national anthem will play at the start of every season opener game, coming before "The Star Spangled Banner," a source familiar with the league's discussions told NPR.

The song will be played beginning Sept. 10, with the nationally televised Kansas City Chiefs vs. Houston Texans game. It will also play during the full slate of Sunday afternoon games, Sunday Night Football and the two ESPN Monday night games.

The league has been in discussions on the subject with the National Football League Players Association.

Other items being discussed include on-uniform elements like names of victims on helmet decals or jersey patches, educational programs and storytelling, for example, in the form of public service announcements about victims and their families....
Wiki: Lift Every Voice and Sing

YT: Lift Every Voice and Sing with Lyrics

Probably not my place to say, but ugh. I already disliked it before I got to the god-heavy latter verses. I don't even like Beyonce's version.
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... Snyder has many problems ...
I agree, but I don't think Eleanor Holmes Norton and allies' goal is to keep/increase the fan base.
And therein lies another part of the problem. She/they probably wouldn't care if the team moved. I understand there's a vacancy in Oakland with a crowd that would likely be fine with "Redskins".

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And therein lies another part of the problem. She/they probably wouldn't care if the team moved. I understand there's a vacancy in Oakland with a crowd that would likely be fine with (former DC).
No way does a racist team name fly in the Bay Area.
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... Snyder has many problems ...
Washington owner Dan Snyder announces team will review nickname

:roll: Hey Snyder, just change it. Or, don't change it, your PR and financial funeral, but what is this “thorough review" :bs: ?
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I still like:
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It's probably just me, but I don't know that there would be so much hating on the 'Skins if (a) Snyder wasn't such an incompetent asshole and (b) they'd been regular playoff contenders.

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How about the Washington Nickelbacks?

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While we're at it, let's stop cultural stereotyping of the Vikings.
Norse civilisation during the Viking Age was technologically, militarily and culturally advanced. Yet popular, modern conceptions of the Vikings—a term frequently applied casually to their modern Skandinavian descendants—often strongly differ from the complex, advanced civilisation of the Norsemen that emerges from archaeology and historical sources. A romanticised picture of Vikings as noble savages began to emerge in the 18th century; this developed and became widely propagated during the 19th-century Viking revival.[11][12] Perceived views of the Vikings as alternatively violent, piratical heathens or as intrepid adventurers owe much to conflicting varieties of the modern Viking myth that had taken shape by the early 20th century. Current popular representations of the Vikings are typically based on cultural clichés and stereotypes, complicating modern appreciation of the Viking legacy. These representations are rarely accurate—for example, there is no evidence that they wore horned helmets, a costume element that first appeared in Wagnerian opera.
And maybe we should work on that 49ers name too.

The man who moved into land populated by indigenous peoples, John Sutton, held the land on which the first gold was found and who basically started the rush had enslaved hundreds of Native Americans and used them as a free source of labor and makeshift militia to defend his territory and expand his empire.

The (mostly) men known as 49ers deserted their families to go west in search of gold, and the thousands of them moved out other indigenous people to form gold mining towns and camps that were essentially lawless, with rampant banditry, gambling, prostitution and violence.

Once the gold rush was underway, the 49ers developed hydraulic mining and trashed much of the region’s landscape. Dams designed to supply water to mine sites in summer altered the course of rivers away from farmland, while sediment from mines clogged others. The logging industry was born from the need to construct extensive canals and feed boilers at mines, further consuming natural resources.
49ers were not nice people.

And not to forget the Raiders, who glamorize piracy and violent crime.

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Holy Moly.

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At least one sportswriter article floated the idea that the "Skins should move and start fresh somewhere else. New name, new town and - if any way possible - new owners. All the major owners other than Snyder are trying to sell anyway. Run Snyder off, take the team to San Diego, Oakland, San Antonio, (name it the Renegades (or maybe the Runaways) and everybody's happy. Except the actual Washington fans, if any.

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Sports increasing dependence on big money sponsors is coming around to bite them all in the ass. Pick a cliche - time to pay the piper, reap and sowed, whatever. Borrow money from the mob and you might get your knees broken. If you sell your soul, don't be surprised if you end up in Hell. Anyway, another sponsor demands a name change - this one for the Edmonton Eskimos.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/cfl/sp ... li=AAggNb9

I liked it when stadiums were/are named "Candlestick Park", "Three Rivers Stadium", Arrowhead Stadium." "Lucas Oil Stadium"? Seriously?
I don't like golf tournaments with names that give no clue as to location. What's wrong with "LA Open"? Last week's Nascar race at Indianapolis was the "BIG MACHINE HAND SANITIZER 400" Puh-leeze.

Take their money, then take their shit.

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Why did the Bears draft Mitch Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson?
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Bears general manager Ryan Pace had sent a jolt through the draft, trading up from No. 3 to No. 2 to select North Carolina quarterback Mitch Trubisky.

It was a surprising and pivotal moment, arguably the franchise’s most significant move of the past decade. With so much adrenaline pumping, the cameras kept rolling, gathering moments that the organization could splice together for a fan-enticing social media montage.

There was Pace, upstairs at Halas Hall, congratulating colleagues in the draft room and emphasizing the collective belief the Bears had in identifying Trubisky as the quarterback they just couldn’t live without.

“When you have an opportunity to get a quarterback of this caliber, you can't pass on it,” Pace said.

In Kansas City, GM John Dorsey jumped 17 spots — from No. 27 to No. 10 — to select Texas Tech’s Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs already had a reliable quarterback in veteran Alex Smith and a playoff-caliber team that had won 12 games the previous season. Still, in Mahomes, Dorsey and his talent evaluation team saw a transcendent talent with comic-book arm strength, impressive athleticism and a penchant for creating big plays.

Finally, in Houston, the Texans were preparing to plaster Clemson’s Deshaun Watson all over the city — on billboards, on media guides, on ticket stubs. Who wouldn’t be excited about landing a quarterback who posted a 32-3 record as a college starter, becoming a Heisman Trophy runner-up and a national champion in the process?

In Houston, Watson’s statistical production and galvanizing leadership have the Texans staring through a wide-open window of opportunity with a chance to remain Super Bowl contenders for the foreseeable future.

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Before the "Redskins" are scrubbed and replaced with whonowhat, I thought this was the best suggestion I've heard:

How about the Washington Possums because they play dead at home and get killed on the road

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O Really wrote:
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Before the "Redskins" are scrubbed and replaced with whonowhat, I thought this was the best suggestion I've heard:

How about the Washington Possums because they play dead at home and get killed on the road
Perfect!
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