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Better yet, why weren’t they embarrassed by such a bullshit story – especially in light of McCain actually being born in a foreign country.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:37 am
Better yet, why weren’t they embarrassed by such a bullshit story – especially in light of McCain actually being born in a foreign country.
Also, as his mother was American, wouldn't he have had a birthright citizenship even if he was born as an ex-pat?
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:37 am
Better yet, why weren’t they embarrassed by such a bullshit story – especially in light of McCain actually being born in a foreign country.
They pretend that foreign military bases - like with McCain in Panama - are US soil like embassies, but they're not. Otoh, Ted Cruz - Canada - doesn't even have that excuse.
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Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:15 pm
Also, as his mother was American, wouldn't he have had a birthright citizenship even if he was born as an ex-pat?
Most legal scholars think so, though the courts have never decided. The clause was meant to keep foreign aristocrats from becoming POTUS, not to exclude actual Americans that happened to be born abroad. If the legal scholars are correct, POSPOTUS and the other whiny :lol: :lol: :lol: birfers :lol: :lol: :lol: are even dumber than we already know them to be.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:19 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:37 am
Better yet, why weren’t they embarrassed by such a bullshit story – especially in light of McCain actually being born in a foreign country.
They pretend that foreign military bases - like with McCain in Panama - are US soil like embassies, but they're not. Otoh, Ted Cruz - Canada - doesn't even have that excuse.
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:15 pm
Also, as his mother was American, wouldn't he have had a birthright citizenship even if he was born as an ex-pat?
Most legal scholars think so, though the courts have never decided. The clause was meant to keep foreign aristocrats from becoming POTUS, not to exclude actual Americans that happened to be born abroad. If the legal scholars are correct, POSPOTUS and the other whiny :lol: :lol: :lol: birfers :lol: :lol: :lol: are even dumber than we already know them to be.
If Dracula Cruz is natural born and eligible.....what's the difference? Oh wait.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/northern-exposure/
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:37 pm
If Dracula Cruz is natural born and eligible.....what's the difference? Oh wait.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/northern-exposure/
... Nonetheless, both U.S. and Canadian authorities opined that Cruz was in fact a dual U.S.-Canadian citizen: ...

All of that is now moot, however, because in 2013 Ted Cruz took steps to formally renounce any claim to Canadian citizenship: ...

That process of renunciation was accomplished by May of 2014: ...

In May of 2014 the Government of Canada issued a certificate acknowledging Ted Cruz’s renunciation of Canadian citizenship as of 14 May 2014.
14 May is now a Canadian national holiday.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:04 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:37 pm
If Dracula Cruz is natural born and eligible.....what's the difference? Oh wait.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/northern-exposure/
... Nonetheless, both U.S. and Canadian authorities opined that Cruz was in fact a dual U.S.-Canadian citizen: ...

All of that is now moot, however, because in 2013 Ted Cruz took steps to formally renounce any claim to Canadian citizenship: ...

That process of renunciation was accomplished by May of 2014: ...

In May of 2014 the Government of Canada issued a certificate acknowledging Ted Cruz’s renunciation of Canadian citizenship as of 14 May 2014.
14 May is now a Canadian national holiday.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:19 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:37 am
Better yet, why weren’t they embarrassed by such a bullshit story – especially in light of McCain actually being born in a foreign country.
They pretend that foreign military bases - like with McCain in Panama - are US soil like embassies, but they're not. Otoh, Ted Cruz - Canada - doesn't even have that excuse.
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:15 pm
Also, as his mother was American, wouldn't he have had a birthright citizenship even if he was born as an ex-pat?
Most legal scholars think so, though the courts have never decided. The clause was meant to keep foreign aristocrats from becoming POTUS, not to exclude actual Americans that happened to be born abroad. If the legal scholars are correct, POSPOTUS and the other whiny :lol: :lol: :lol: birfers :lol: :lol: :lol: are even dumber than we already know them to be.

Take a closer look. The military base hospital where they claim he was born wasn't built until a couple of years later. His own website said he was born in a Panamanian hospital in Panama City.

And then there was Goldwater.

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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:19 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:37 am
Better yet, why weren’t they embarrassed by such a bullshit story – especially in light of McCain actually being born in a foreign country.
They pretend that foreign military bases - like with McCain in Panama - are US soil like embassies, but they're not. Otoh, Ted Cruz - Canada - doesn't even have that excuse.
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:15 pm
Also, as his mother was American, wouldn't he have had a birthright citizenship even if he was born as an ex-pat?
Most legal scholars think so, though the courts have never decided. The clause was meant to keep foreign aristocrats from becoming POTUS, not to exclude actual Americans that happened to be born abroad. If the legal scholars are correct, POSPOTUS and the other whiny :lol: :lol: :lol: birfers :lol: :lol: :lol: are even dumber than we already know them to be.

Could be they learned their stupid at Clemson.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:37 am
Better yet, why weren’t they embarrassed by such a bullshit story – especially in light of McCain actually being born in a foreign country.
They knew they could tap into the inherent racism of a lot of GOP fans; same with McCain; it was no problem....he's white

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:19 pm
They pretend that foreign military bases - like with McCain in Panama - are US soil like embassies, but they're not. Otoh, Ted Cruz - Canada - doesn't even have that excuse.
Take a closer look. The military base hospital where they claim he was born wasn't built until a couple of years later. His own website said he was born in a Panamanian hospital in Panama City.
My bad - They pretend that military vaginas are US soil like embassies, but they're not.
And then there was Goldwater.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:00 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:43 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:19 pm
They pretend that foreign military bases - like with McCain in Panama - are US soil like embassies, but they're not. Otoh, Ted Cruz - Canada - doesn't even have that excuse.
Take a closer look. The military base hospital where they claim he was born wasn't built until a couple of years later. His own website said he was born in a Panamanian hospital in Panama City.
My bad - They pretend that military vaginas are US soil like embassies, but they're not.
And then there was Goldwater.
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In what state was Goldwater born?

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:52 pm
In what state was Goldwater born?
The argument is that one has to be born in America, not in a state. Good point, though, will we have another :lol: :lol: :lol: birfer :lol: :lol: :lol: tantrum if someone a Dem born in Puerto Rico runs?
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Vrede too wrote:
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:52 pm
In what state was Goldwater born?
The argument is that one has to be born in America, not in a state. Good point, though, will we have another :lol: :lol: :lol: birfer :lol: :lol: :lol: tantrum if someone a Dem born in Puerto Rico runs?
They would freak out.

Also, wasn't Romney's dad born in Mexico after his parents denounced their US citizenship? His dad ran for the repug nomination.


btw - it looks like the crowd that ran the b.s. Benghazi investigation is after Schiff for being too partisan.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:49 pm
... Also, wasn't Romney's dad born in Mexico

Yes, Colonia Dublán, Chihuahua, Mexico.

after his parents denounced their US citizenship?

Not sure about that part.

His dad ran for the repug nomination.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Birferism :lol: :lol: :lol: only applies to Dems.
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Romney's grandfather fled the US because polygamy was banned here. He said "hey, hey, my, my, polygamy will never die." Neil Young later wrote a song based on this lyric.

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