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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by neoplacebo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:16 pm

Vrede too wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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What do you think of Greta Thunberg, schoolgirl climate change warrior?

Pathetic :roll: ...
Greta Thunberg is "Pathetic :roll: " ?
Skiping school in the name of climate change is.
What excuse did you use for "skiping" spelling class? :lol:
And what cause would you find worthy of skipping class?
2500 actions, millions of kids and supporters - this historic day is made even more special knowing that elephanter is throwing a fit.
Cool; saw the coverage on CBS tonight. And that elephant man might be the same guy as the cat fan; he's got a tenuous grip on his native language, too. Plus he hibernates often.

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:07 pm

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Cool; saw the coverage on CBS tonight. And that elephant man might be the same guy as the cat fan; he's got a tenuous grip on his native language, too. Plus he hibernates often.
Could be, but elephanter only posted 4 times - s/he skiped out of here :D - and 1 FAT CAN was posting both before and after elephanter.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:12 am

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Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:16 pm
Cool; saw the coverage on CBS tonight....
'We are skipping our lessons to teach one': Asheville students join global climate strike (with pics)

Was pleasant here for a couple of days, now back to the 80s or higher we've been at since early Spring. :sunny: :gthumb:
'Our house is on fire.' Global Climate Strike draws out hundreds of thousands of protesters in New York, DC

A boisterous crowd of at least 200,000 people turned out to chant and march in Manhattan on Friday ...

"Climate change is worse than homework," read one homemade sign ...

... more than 300,000 demonstrators turned out on Australian streets ...

Organizers said protesters would be turning out in 156 countries from such disparate locations as Nepal, Senegal, Quebec, Rome, Kyrgyzstan, Sweden, Bolivia and Peru ...
Dr. Kim Bernard
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Climate change is not a possibility for the distant future, it is the REALITY OF TODAY!!! It’s time to rise before it’s too late. We support you, climate strikers. With love and hope from Antarctica.
#ClimateStrike #FridaysForFuture


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... In the middle of the school day, 70 high schoolers in Greenville, South Carolina carried hand-painted signs as they walked down Main Street to City Hall.

"People still think that it’s a generation or two down the road, but no, this is just happening now," said Wylder Voegele, a 17-year-old student. "It’s scary." ...
Photos: What the youth climate strike looks like around the world
These images of youth climate activists on strike around the world are simply inspiring.


Afghanistan

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Young people attend a Climate Strike rally, as Afghan security forces guard them in Kabul, Afghanistan on September 20, 2019.

Germany

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In Hamburg, Germany, climate strikers fill one of the city’s main streets on September 20, 2019.
Many more great pics at link.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by PeacefulPartier » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:17 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:49 pm

Sorry, missed seeing your post until now.

1. There is no “Glacier National Bay”. Right off the bat we know that you and the LOL LOL LOL AGW denier LOL LOL LOL site you get cherry picked “facts” from are clueless, not even up to the level of a middle school geography student.
Oh no...I put two words in the wrong order. Oh the horror. Oh woe is me. Oh my oh my oh my. Oh what ever shall I do. Seriously, if that's the best you've got, you are in trouble.
In Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve one glacier out of its 7 major ones, the Grand Pacific Glacier, retreated beginning in the 18th Century. It’s only been in the last few decades that all of the Park’s glaciers have been thinning and retreating. You lied.
I didn't lie. In the 1700's, they were one massive glacier. So, yes, your first sentence was the best you have. You are in trouble.

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Glaciology is complex, with many factors affecting each one. All you do is confirm your utter science ignorance by implying that a single contrary glacier is meaningful, especially when we know that glaciers globally are more recently and consistently retreating.
“While there are isolated cases of growing glaciers, the overwhelming trend in glaciers worldwide is retreat. In fact, the global melt rate has been accelerating since the mid-1970s.”
https://skepticalscience.com/himalayan- ... ediate.htm
So, I ask why glaciers started retreating before man began producing CO2 and you respond with why some glaciers are growing now and why that is meaningless? With the exception of the little ice age, glaciers have been retreating for thousands of years. With that, the question becomes why do we think that our presence caused the retreat when the retreat began thousands of years before we produced one pound of CO2 from a machine.
2. “The consequences of climate change become increasingly bad after each additional degree of warming, with the consequences of 2°C being quite damaging and the consequences of 4°C being potentially catastrophic.”
https://skepticalscience.com/global-war ... vanced.htm
It’s also a matter of the unprecedented rapidity of warming. Neither humans nor plants and animals have time to adapt.
Two degrees warmer than now is the mean temperature for Earth. The means Earth has spent more time at 17C than it has at the current 15C. In fact, the Earth has never seen prolonged periods at 15C. The current temperature has always been a transitory temperature.

As for the warming trends, the current trends are slower than natural warming events of the past. And they should be. Warming trends have been taking longer and longer as the planet has grown. That, of course, makes sense. Smaller planets should change temperature faster than larger planets. But, you have dishonest scientists that will tell you that over the last century we have warmed faster than ever. That is not true. The climate changes like the stock market. As it goes up it ebbs and flows. The normalized data will show growth, but at certain points along the graph, you can find extreme growth and recession. Dishonest scientists like to use the early 1900's as their comparison point to today. That was a valley. We are nearing a peak. If you compare the valley to the current peak it looks like extremely rapid warming. However, if you normalize the data you will find that the warming trend of the last hundred, 1000 and 10,000 years has been well below previous ice house to warm house transitions.

We are not the cretins you are used to discussing things with. If you wish to avoid shaming yourself, you’re really going to have to up your game, including: basic googling, avoiding biased, non-expert websites, and doing some actual research. We may be lefties, but each one of us prizes facts and logic above all. You should give it a try sometime.
Do you think so? Do you really? You spent the entire post arguing with ghosts and finished by attempting to insult me. If you are going to claim some level of superiority at least do so from after making a credible post. Don't do it when you posted replies to straw men and baseless insults.

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:18 am

PeacefulPartier wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:17 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:49 pm

Sorry, missed seeing your post until now.

1. There is no “Glacier National Bay”. Right off the bat we know that you and the LOL LOL LOL AGW denier LOL LOL LOL site you get cherry picked “facts” from are clueless, not even up to the level of a middle school geography student.
Oh no...I put two words in the wrong order.

Ummm, worse than that, liar.

Oh the horror. Oh woe is me. Oh my oh my oh my. Oh what ever shall I do. Seriously, if that's the best you've got, you are in trouble.

Got it, you're a child when YOU screw up and someone notices. Typical LOL LOL LOL AGW denier LOL LOL LOL.
In Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve one glacier out of its 7 major ones, the Grand Pacific Glacier, retreated beginning in the 18th Century. It’s only been in the last few decades that all of the Park’s glaciers have been thinning and retreating. You lied.
I didn't lie. In the 1700's, they were one massive glacier.

No, they weren't. That's not how glaciers work and your map doesn't back you up in any way.

So, yes, your first sentence was the best you have. You are in trouble.

You keep telling yourself that, it's adorable!
Glaciology is complex, with many factors affecting each one. All you do is confirm your utter science ignorance by implying that a single contrary glacier is meaningful, especially when we know that glaciers globally are more recently and consistently retreating.
“While there are isolated cases of growing glaciers, the overwhelming trend in glaciers worldwide is retreat. In fact, the global melt rate has been accelerating since the mid-1970s.”
https://skepticalscience.com/himalayan- ... ediate.htm
So, I ask why glaciers

A single glacier. Now you're lying again.

started retreating before man began producing CO2 and you respond with why some glaciers are growing now and why that is meaningless? With the exception of the little ice age, glaciers have been retreating for thousands of years. With that, the question becomes why do we think that our presence caused the retreat when the retreat began thousands of years before we produced one pound of CO2 from a machine.

Ummm, because all of the glaciologists and climate scientists agree about the recent changes and their cause. Too frightened to read the link or too slow to understand it?
2. “The consequences of climate change become increasingly bad after each additional degree of warming, with the consequences of 2°C being quite damaging and the consequences of 4°C being potentially catastrophic.”
https://skepticalscience.com/global-war ... vanced.htm
It’s also a matter of the unprecedented rapidity of warming. Neither humans nor plants and animals have time to adapt.
Two degrees warmer than now is the mean temperature for Earth. The means Earth has spent more time at 17C than it has at the current 15C. In fact, the Earth has never seen prolonged periods at 15C. The current temperature has always been a transitory temperature.

Gibberish response. Too frightened to read the link or too slow to understand it?
As for the warming trends, the current trends are slower than natural warming events of the past.

You lie.
And they should be. Warming trends have been taking longer and longer as the planet has grown. That, of course, makes sense. Smaller planets should change temperature faster than larger planets. But, you have dishonest scientists that will tell you that over the last century we have warmed faster than ever.

I see, it's that massive conspiracy of almost all climate scientists. You poor thing.

That is not true. The climate changes like the stock market. As it goes up it ebbs and flows. The normalized data will show growth, but at certain points along the graph, you can find extreme growth and recession.
Dishonest scientists like to use the early 1900's as their comparison point to today.

I see, it's that massive conspiracy of almost all climate scientists. You poor thing.

That was a valley. We are nearing a peak. If you compare the valley to the current peak it looks like extremely rapid warming. However, if you normalize the data you will find that the warming trend of the last hundred, 1000 and 10,000 years has been well below previous ice house to warm house transitions.

You lie. That's why you provide no citations. You know that we will laugh at what you consider credible.
We are not the cretins you are used to discussing things with. If you wish to avoid shaming yourself, you’re really going to have to up your game, including: basic googling, avoiding biased, non-expert websites, and doing some actual research. We may be lefties, but each one of us prizes facts and logic above all. You should give it a try sometime.
Do you think so? Do you really? You spent the entire post arguing with ghosts and finished by attempting to insult me.

You insult yourself. Grow up and own it.

If you are going to claim some level of superiority at least do so from after making a credible post. Don't do it when you posted replies to straw men and baseless insults.

Wussy projection. Exactly one of us is citing 97%+ of climate scientists, while you just spew pitiful wingnuttery that's been debunked over and over.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:28 am

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

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Trump Posts Sarcastic Response To Greta Thunberg's Tearful Climate Change Speech

... Hours after the 16-year-old delivered her impassioned address, Trump shared a tweet from Wired that quoted the Swedish teen: “People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. And all you can talk about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth.”

The president, a climate change denier who has gutted environmental regulations to favor coal and oil companies, added his own sarcastic commentary on Thunberg: “She seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see!” ...
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A very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:32 am

No telling what if any lasting impact GT will have, but the media is full of AGW stories besides the ones that mention her. :clap:
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Tell Your State to Keep Standing Strong Against Trump's Latest Anti-Climate Assault

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Public radio's Wait, wait, don't tell me: "Greta Thunberg and Bill Belichick should have a glare-off."

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Unread post by Leo Lyons » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:54 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:49 pm
PeacefulPartier wrote:
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2 questions.

1. Why did the glaciers in Glacier National Bay begin to shrink in the 1750's?
2. Why do you think warmer temperatures are bad?
We are not the cretins you are used to discussing things with. If you wish to avoid shaming yourself, you’re really going to have to up your game, including: basic googling, avoiding biased, non-expert websites, and doing some actual research. We may be lefties, but each one of us prizes facts and logic above all. You should give it a try sometime.
Hey PeacefulPartier! You screwed up now.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by neoplacebo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:09 pm

Don't get excited; I think peaceful partier flew too close to the sun two days ago; probably won't be back.

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:13 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
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Don't get excited; I think peaceful partier flew too close to the sun two days ago; probably won't be back.
We'll see in general, but PP sure ran shrieking away from this thread after getting owned on the facts. Poor baby.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Leo Lyons » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:23 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:13 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
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Don't get excited; I think peaceful partier flew too close to the sun two days ago; probably won't be back.
We'll see in general, but PP sure ran shrieking away from this thread after getting owned on the facts. Poor baby.
"ran shrieking away"®
Old memories are returning. I'm beginning to feel I'm back home. :mrgreen:

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:51 am

90s in the mountains of NC, in October. :roll: :gthumb:
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Unread post by O Really » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:55 pm

35 this morning in northern Oregon. High around 60ish. Average should be around 76.

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Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:11 pm

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90s in the mountains of NC, in October. :roll: :gthumb:
Same in TN yesterday and today and forecast until Friday when the high is forecast to be 77. This could be fake news, though.

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Unread post by PeacefulPartier » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:19 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
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90s in the mountains of NC, in October. :roll: :gthumb:
Same in TN yesterday and today and forecast until Friday when the high is forecast to be 77. This could be fake news, though.
Y'all understand why these single points of data are completely meaningless, right?

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Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:32 pm

O Really wrote:
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35 this morning in northern Oregon. High around 60ish. Average should be around 76.
As PP knows, we've been setting records here all Summer and now into the Fall.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by neoplacebo » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:35 pm

PeacefulPartier wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:19 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:11 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:51 am
90s in the mountains of NC, in October. :roll: :gthumb:
Same in TN yesterday and today and forecast until Friday when the high is forecast to be 77. This could be fake news, though.
Y'all understand why these single points of data are completely meaningless, right?
Did I assign any particular meaning to what I posted? I only said it was hot for this time of year. I spent most of my life in the area I now live in and have never known it to be this hot in the month of October. Stop crying

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:40 pm

:lol: Looks like my blind guess was spot on for the whiny idiocy PP posted. I would not have changed a thing about my reply.

Setting heat records at 2 or more times the pace of cold records is not "meaningless," LOL LOL LOL AGW denier LOL LOL LOL.
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