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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by O Really » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:09 pm

Almost everywhere we've been in the last 2-3 years, we get variations on the same theme from locals - "it's not usually like this..." "it's usually not this hot" ... it's not usually so cold this early... there should be beautiful leaves out by now... it's never cloudy/rainy in July... yada. There is no more "normal" except for expecting the abnormal.

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Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:34 pm

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“She can see carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how it flows out of chimneys and turns the atmosphere into a rubbish tip.”
The bizarre claim was made by the 16-year-old activist’s mum Malena Ernman in the book ‘Scenes from the Heart’, a memoir about Greta’s family of which a preprint has already been made available.
https://ananova.news/climate-activist-g ... sible-co2/

Greta Thunberg has stated that it was taken out of context. :roll:
Don't know anything about the book, didn't read your link, but what you quoted sounds to me like someone's description of a dream they may have had that was related to her earlier childhood and the subject of that dream was then being related to some reporter in a relative way to the book. The fact that the mother is being quoted, and the fact that the book is described as a memoir, and if the book related this as a dream she had at some earlier point, then the quoted statement, being presented as a belief or fact, is certainly taken out of context. Just a thought.

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:06 pm

1 FAT CAN is my kind of LEO - rotten at investigation and incapable of thinking things through :clap: . S/he is also inherently dishonest and gets off on beating up teen girls, ick.

My immediate thought was that it's OBVIOUSLY metaphor, clearly a concept too deep for 1 FAT CAN whose literary experience is likely limited to True Crime, Guns & Ammo and porn.

1 FAT CAN gives us a " :roll: " over the notion of "taken out of context," yet the wuss presents no contradictory evidence. Even more telling, s/he did not get that from the article linked. So, s/he either saw elaboration on this elsewhere and dishonestly chose not to share it, or saw the assertion and was too frightened to check. In contrast, it literally took me just seconds to find:
https://www.facebook.com/gretathunbergs ... 474715541/
Greta Thunberg
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Of course the ongoing hate campaigns never rests…
There is at least one new conspiracy theory a day.
The latest - and perhaps most entertaining - spin is that ”I can see CO2 with my own eyes”.
This is of course a metaphor from a book taken out of it's context, taken from a German newspaper.
No one has said that I can literally see CO2… that is beyond stupid.
This should of course not be necessary to mention but since some respected newspapers have written about this without realizing that this is a fake news campaign I thought it was best to point this out.
While I am at it I also want to point out that when I say that ”our civilisation is almost like a castle built in the sand” or that ”our house on fire” these are metaphors too:)

PS This book is written by my family and our earnings from this book will go to charity.

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Then again, I don't get off on beating up teen girls.

"beyond stupid" - :lol: I did not know that she and 1 FAT CAN have met.

Finally, another concept that's too complex for 1 FAT CAN - It makes no difference if activist GT can somehow, someday be discredited. The science that LOL LOL LOL AGW denier LOL LOL LOL 1 FAT CAN cowers from like an abused puppy is rock solid.

My climate change prediction: 1 FAT CAN won't have the spine to retract.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by neoplacebo » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:16 pm

I once saw the actual air all around moving as if I could see the air currents moving it around. But I was under the influence of LSD at the time. This has nothing to do with global warming, and I never wrote that down before now (about seeing the air currents moving the air). I can see how it could easily be taken out of context.

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:54 pm

According to her mother Malena Ernman (48), 16-year-old Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg can see CO2 with the naked eye. She writes that in the book ‘Scenes from the heart. Our life for the climate’, which she wrote with her family.

Greta was diagnosed as a child with obsessive-compulsive disorder and Asperger’s syndrome, just like her younger sister Beata. The activist also has a photographic memory. She knows all the capitals by heart and can list all the chemical elements of the periodic table within one minute. In addition, she has another gift according to her mother. “Greta is able to see what other people cannot see,” writes Malena Ernman in the book. “She can see carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how it flows out of chimneys and changes the atmosphere in a landfill.”
https://miniistid.blogg.no/my-daughter- ... d-eye.html
I haven't said that the child's mother is a liar.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

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... "beyond stupid" - :lol: I did not know that (Greta Thunberg) and 1 FAT CAN have met....

My climate change prediction: 1 FAT CAN won't have the spine to retract.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

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Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:54 pm
According to her mother Malena Ernman (48), 16-year-old Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg can see CO2 with the naked eye. She writes that in the book ‘Scenes from the heart. Our life for the climate’, which she wrote with her family.

Greta was diagnosed as a child with obsessive-compulsive disorder and Asperger’s syndrome, just like her younger sister Beata. The activist also has a photographic memory. She knows all the capitals by heart and can list all the chemical elements of the periodic table within one minute. In addition, she has another gift according to her mother. “Greta is able to see what other people cannot see,” writes Malena Ernman in the book. “She can see carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how it flows out of chimneys and changes the atmosphere in a landfill.”
https://miniistid.blogg.no/my-daughter- ... d-eye.html
I haven't said that the child's mother is a liar.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:14 pm

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I haven't said that the child's mother is a liar.
Nor have I insinuated that the child's mother is a drug addict.
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

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Vrede too wrote:
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My bad :oops: . 1 FAT CAN is smart, beautiful, brave, and honorable when proven wrong.
Mature, too.
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Unread post by O Really » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:11 am

PG&E (Yes, the Erin Brockovitch PG&E) is cutting off power to about a million customers throughout North California down to San Jose or so to protect against current strong winds from knocking down its old vulnerable power lines and starting another Paradise-type fire. Popular Science thinks it's just a sign of what's ahead...

https://www.popsci.com/california-power ... -wildfire/

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by O Really » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:08 pm

In Bend, I haven't heard anybody saying anything as stupid as "it's so fricking cold, we could sure use some global warming" but it is way colder than average for this time of year. Down to 18, with highs more typical of January than October. But watching national weather, it's hard to find anywhere where things are "normal." Early severe snow storms through the Midwest, drought in Southeast, heat down the East coast...yada. Supposed to be getting more "normal" today, but who knows. Anyway, we've got winterwear and we're still going to hike a volcano, a present-day reminder of how the Earth changes itself.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/deschut ... ecid=66159

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Re: The Global Warming thread.

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In Bend, I haven't heard anybody saying anything as stupid as "it's so fricking cold, we could sure use some global warming" but it is way colder than average for this time of year. Down to 18, with highs more typical of January than October. But watching national weather, it's hard to find anywhere where things are "normal." Early severe snow storms through the Midwest, drought in Southeast, heat down the East coast...yada. Supposed to be getting more "normal" today, but who knows. Anyway, we've got winterwear and we're still going to hike a volcano, a present-day reminder of how the Earth changes itself.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/deschut ... ecid=66159
That looks great! Enjoy.

Not sure about the rest of the year, but the article I linked on page 44 says:
How Hot Was July? Hotter Than Ever, Global Data Shows

... The highest above-average conditions were recorded across Alaska, Greenland and large swathes of Siberia. Large parts of Africa and Australia were warmer than normal, as was much of Central Asia. Cooler than average temperatures prevailed in Eastern Europe, much of Asia, the Northern Plains (now getting early snow) and Pacific Northwest of the United States and over large parts of Western Canada....
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Re: The Global Warming thread.

Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:22 am

O Really wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:26 am
elephanter wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:02 am
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What do you think of Greta Thunberg, schoolgirl climate change warrior?

Pathetic :roll: ...
Greta Thunberg is "Pathetic :roll: " ?
Skiping school in the name of climate change is.
What excuse did you use for "skiping" spelling class? :lol:
And what cause would you find worthy of skipping class?
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Greta Thunberg
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A very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future.
:lol: :---P

Hey 45SHOLE, never get in a Twitter war with a teenager, NEVER.
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1 FAT CAN is my kind of LEO - rotten at investigation and incapable of thinking things through :clap: . S/he is also inherently dishonest and gets off on beating up teen girls, ick.

My immediate thought was that it's OBVIOUSLY metaphor, clearly a concept too deep for 1 FAT CAN whose literary experience is likely limited to True Crime, Guns & Ammo and porn.

1 FAT CAN gives us a " :roll: " over the notion of "taken out of context," yet the wuss presents no contradictory evidence. Even more telling, s/he did not get that from the article linked. So, s/he either saw elaboration on this elsewhere and dishonestly chose not to share it, or saw the assertion and was too frightened to check. In contrast, it literally took me just seconds to find:
https://www.facebook.com/gretathunbergs ... 474715541/

Then again, I don't get off on beating up teen girls.

"beyond stupid" - :lol: I did not know that she and 1 FAT CAN have met.

Finally, another concept that's too complex for 1 FAT CAN - It makes no difference if activist GT can somehow, someday be discredited. The science that LOL LOL LOL AGW denier LOL LOL LOL 1 FAT CAN cowers from like an abused puppy is rock solid.

My climate change prediction: 1 FAT CAN won't have the spine to retract.
A psychotherapist explains why some adults are reacting badly to young climate strikers

Young climate strikers I spoke to recently are confused and distressed about the things adults are doing. It’s not just inaction during the worsening climate crisis that bothers them, but the increasingly bizarre criticism many older people throw at striking schoolchildren, in the media and elsewhere. In the absence of any meaningful attempts to restrain global carbon emissions, the direct action of young people should, logically, be applauded. But maybe we’re not dealing with an entirely logical problem here.

The Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison accused Greta Thunberg – the Swedish teenager who started the global strikes – of creating “needless anxiety” in children. So it’s Thunberg’s activism that is responsible for the anxiety children feel about their future, not the climate crisis itself? Thunberg has also been called mentally ill, a hysterical teenager and “a weirdo”. French academics criticised her looks and rather than address the points in her UN speech, Donald Trump dismissed Thunberg as “a happy girl looking forwards to a bright future”.

None of this acknowledgs the urgency of the crisis that climate strikers are drawing attention to. So, why are they being made?
Beneath the thin skin

It’s been argued that most of the bullying Thunberg receives is from middle-aged, conservative men who feel threatened by her agency as a young woman, and respond with misogny. But the criticisms of the strikers aren’t only from powerful men like Donald Trump. I’ve also heard from parents supporting their children on the school strikes that strangers have accused them of manipulating “that poor Greta Thunberg” and betraying their children’s right to have a “normal childhood”....

As an academic and psychotherapist, I study how children are emotionally affected by the climate crisis. But I also want to understand why some adults have reacted the way they have to the young strikers. I find these children inspiring. On September 20 2019 – the day of the global strike – children in Afghanistan marched through the streets with their banners, flanked by soldiers in full body armour carrying guns. These children were putting their own lives at risk to get their message across to the world. On the other hand, we have these verbal attacks from adults, safe in their offices and homes.

In her UN speech, Thunberg challenged adults the world over to care about the climate crisis. She spoke of the shattered dreams and despair that her generation bears. She also recast inaction as a conscious choice. “If you choose to fail us, we will never forgive you,” she said. By making this choice conscious, she left older generations with no more excuses. That challenge was always going to hurt and provoke a backlash. When adults are challenged to behave like adults, by a child, they can go in one of two directions.

One is simply to grow up. The other, is to defend themselves. In psychology, we try to listen through the defences people make when they feel threatened. For example, when someone says that these young people should be in school instead of on strike, they may be pining for the sense of normality that seemed to exist before the climate crisis gained such prominence in everyday life....

Generally, the size of the defence mirrors the size of the fear. It may be reasonable to assume many of the people who attack Thunberg and the school strikers are terrified. It’s much easier to attack others than to look at ourselves, reflect on our own feelings and start to deal with them, like grown ups.
Then, there are the creeps that just like to beat up teen girls.
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Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:32 pm

The weather sure has been nice at Windy Hill North Myrtle Beach this past weekend, the children certainly have enjoyed it. Off to the Auto Fair at Charlotte Motor Speedway next weekend, the children are looking forward to it.
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The weather sure has been nice at Windy Hill North Myrtle Beach this past weekend, the children certainly have enjoyed it. Off to the Auto Fair at Charlotte Motor Speedway next weekend, the children are looking forward to it.
Thanks for not posting that idiotic cow cartoon again. And I wouldn't have told the kids about the auto show until maybe two more days; that way they don't get as much time to be in angst or any sort of excitable mood. Three or four days of that stuff is ok, but not five or six.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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Thanks for not posting that idiotic cow cartoon again.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has said she is a cow dictator - "Apparently, I am a cow dictator."
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Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:42 am

Revealed: the 20 firms behind a third of all carbon emissions
New data shows how fossil fuel companies have driven climate crisis despite industry knowing dangers
***Half a century of dither and denial – a climate crisis timeline
***Why we need political action to tackle the oil, coal and gas companies - video explainer


...

The top 20 companies have contributed to 480bn tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent since 1965
Billion tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent

Saudi Aramco 59.26
Chevron 43.35
Gazprom 43.23
ExxonMobil 41.90
National Iranian Oil Co 35.66
BP 34.02
Royal Dutch Shell 31.95
Coal India 23.12
Pemex 22.65
Petróleos de Venezuela 15.75
PetroChina 15.63
Peabody Energy 15.39
ConocoPhillips 15.23
Abu Dhabi National Oil Co 13.84
Kuwait Petroleum Corp 13.48
Iraq National Oil Co 12.60
Total SA 12.35
Sonatrach 12.30
BHP Billiton 9.80
Petrobras 8.68

...
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A Brief Guide to the Impacts of Climate Change on Food Production

Food may be a universal language — but in these record-breaking hot days, so too is climate change. With July clocking in as the hottest month on Earth in recorded history and extreme weather ramping up globally, farmers are facing the brunt of climate change in croplands and pastures around the world.

Here in the U.S., for instance, climate impacts like more downpours make it harder to avert flooding and erosion on farms across the Midwest. California farmers, on the other hand, must find ways to stay productive despite increasing drought and wildfire risks.

It all amounts to far more than anecdotal inconvenience: The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's Fourth National Climate Assessment report projects that warming temperatures, severe heat, drought, wildfire, and major storms will "increasingly disrupt agricultural productivity," threatening not only farmers' livelihoods but also food security, quality, and price stability.

If these anticipated effects sound extreme, so too are the causes....
:shock: :(

From the Rooftops, Big Box Stores Are Embracing Solar
Target and Walmart are trying to out-green each other in proving to customers they are environmentally responsible businesses.


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Where do the moron LOL LOL LOL AGW deniers LOL LOL LOL come from?

How vested interests tried to turn the world against climate science
For decades fossil fuel majors tried to fight the consensus – just as big tobacco once disputed that smoking kills
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