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Vrede too wrote:
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:15 pm
Can't wait to vote in the primaries. Got my registration updated just in time.
3 weeks, 4 for me. Got a favorite?

I still like Liz!, but she may have faded by 3/3. If so, I don't know between Bernie! and Mayor Pete - basically it's youth vs. ideology for me.
I'm leaning towards Bernie at the moment. I'm with you on Warren as well. I was leaning towards her mostly, but I think I may cast my vote for Sanders.
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:45 pm
I'm leaning towards Bernie at the moment. I'm with you on Warren as well. I was leaning towards her mostly, but I think I may cast my vote for Sanders.
In other words, you might be more radical than me :crazy: ;) .


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Trump supporters, 4chan trolls added to Iowa caucus hotline chaos, Democrats say

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No doubt Republicans will try their best to use all the dirty tricks in their arsenal, and no doubt Trump is, in places, a formidable and likely unstoppable candidate. But unless they change the electoral college system, it still comes down to some pretty simple math. Trump's core is still sticking with him, but he hasn't gained any additional followers in the past three years, and has lost some that held their nose and voted for him last time. Washington, and California, for example, aren't going to vote for Trump if the Dems ran a three-legged chipmunk, and Alabama and West Virginia, for example, will vote Trump no matter who the Dem nominee is. So if Trump wins everything he won in 2016, and the Dems win everything they won except turning say, Wisconsin and Florida, then Trump goes away, more or less. At least is booted from power. Everybody - news media, political analysts, party yammerers, all keep acting like it's a national vote. It's not. And that's how Trump won last time out in part out of Hillary neglect of the midwest, and by turning states (barely, by a few thousand votes) that normally vote blue. Don't make the same mistakes, run somebody nobody actively hates, and get his ass out of the White House.

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No doubt Republicans will try their best to use all the dirty tricks in their arsenal, and no doubt Trump is, in places, a formidable and likely unstoppable candidate. But unless they change the electoral college system, it still comes down to some pretty simple math. Trump's core is still sticking with him, but he hasn't gained any additional followers in the past three years, and has lost some that held their nose and voted for him last time. Washington, and California, for example, aren't going to vote for Trump if the Dems ran a three-legged chipmunk, and Alabama and West Virginia, for example, will vote Trump no matter who the Dem nominee is. So if Trump wins everything he won in 2016, and the Dems win everything they won except turning say, Wisconsin and Florida, then Trump goes away, more or less. At least is booted from power. Everybody - news media, political analysts, party yammerers, all keep acting like it's a national vote. It's not. And that's how Trump won last time out in part out of Hillary neglect of the midwest, and by turning states (barely, by a few thousand votes) that normally vote blue. Don't make the same mistakes, run somebody nobody actively hates, and get his ass out of the White House.
Hey, don't count us out.

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It is perhaps a bit early to make predictions about the November general election outcome until we know who the Dem nominee will be. It's very much up in the air at this point.

Also an unknown is what new outrages Trump will pull between then an now. Already he's strutting around, using profanity in his conferences, and acting like the spoiled brat he's always been.
Buh-Bye, President Plump...

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“Oh yeah,” Perez should step down as party chairman, said Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio). “We’re a party in chaos.” :lol:

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In reality, if 45SHOLE loses NC there's a good chance that he's lost the nation with or without NC. However, we could be key in flipping the Senate.
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“Oh yeah,” Perez should step down as party chairman, said Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio). “We’re a party in chaos.” :lol:
It's been a tough week for leftists.

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Ulysses wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:01 pm
It is perhaps a bit early to make predictions about the November general election outcome until we know who the Dem nominee will be. It's very much up in the air at this point.
I read O Really as doing more analysis than prediction.
Also an unknown is what new outrages Trump will pull between then an now. Already he's strutting around, using profanity in his conferences, and acting like the spoiled brat he's always been.
He even crapped all over the historically nonpartisan Prayer Breakfast, not that his adoring Trumpettes will ever have the balls to object.
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“Oh yeah,” Perez should step down as party chairman, said Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio). “We’re a party in chaos.” :lol:
It's been a tough week for leftists.
The spectacle of the beleaguered and abandoned state party leader has frustrated a number of his fellow state party chairs, leading some of them to conclude Perez has sought to distance himself from the crisis and scapegoat Price in the process.

“Loads of state party chairs are pissed that he would treat one of their peers like this,” said a senior state party official familiar with the ongoing discussions.

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In reality, if 45SHOLE loses NC there's a good chance that he's lost the nation with or without NC. However, we could be key in flipping the Senate.
Current Senate: R 53, D 47 (including 2 I)

Democrats | 12 Held Seats
1 leans D, 1 leans R (AL)

Republicans | 23 Held Seats
3 toss up, 3 lean R (including NC)

https://cookpolitical.com/ratings/senate-race-ratings

Not bad. 50-50 goes to whoever wins the WH.
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Mayo Pete!

#whiteobama

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And I know that I sound like a bot that has studied human behavior by watching 100 hours of Obama speeches. So let’s get #WhiteObama trending, and please not ironically.” - #SNL on Mayor Pete
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Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:29 pm
Mayo Pete!
"But not as spicy." :D
#whiteobama

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And I know that I sound like a bot that has studied human behavior by watching 100 hours of Obama speeches. So let’s get #WhiteObama trending, and please not ironically.” - #SNL on Mayor Pete
https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/1226511238454075395


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"I knew Barrack Obama, Barrack Obama was my friend, and you, sir, are no Barrack Obama."

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Poor malarkey Joe being thrown under the bus.

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O Really wrote:
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"I knew Barrack Obama, Barrack Obama was my friend, and you, sir, are no Barrack Obama."
Part of the joke is that it's really Biden that's running as #whiteobama.
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Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio). “We’re a party in chaos.” :lol:
She's right. :thumbup:

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Buttigieg Wins Most Iowa Delegates After Party Reviews Votes

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Biden stumbles toward finish line in New Hampshire, clinging to hope of South Carolina

It's certainly not fair, especially to nonwhites, that Iowa can sink a Dem POTUS campaign, but I'm not broken up over it. I prefer both the old progressives and the younger moderates over Joe. He's served the nation with honor, but his time is past.
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Trump predicts impeachment will complicate reelection for Schumer, Nadler

President Donald Trump on Monday predicted that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler will be defeated by more liberal primary challengers as a result of their handling of the impeachment push against him....
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POSPOTUS is an idiot, as always. Love them or hate them, Chuck Schumer isn’t even up for reelection until 2022 :lol: and Jerrold Nadler won his last primary in 2016 with 89.5% of the vote. Plus, no liberals will hold the impeachment against them. They know that Dolt .45 and the cowardly, ovine, unpatriotic Senate Repugs prevented a fair trial.
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Biden calls voter a 'lying dog-faced pony soldier'

... In an exchange that was widely shared on social media, 21-year-old Georgia college student Madison Moore asked the presidential hopeful to explain his poor performance in the Iowa caucus last week.

"It's a good question," replied Biden, whose status as national frontrunner for the Democratic nomination was shaken by a damaging fourth-place showing in Iowa's caucuses.
It's a fine question, one that may have been asked by a Biden supporter.
"Have you ever been to a caucus?" he asked the Mercer University student, who nodded.
What relevance does that have to her question?

Fwiw, My state had Dem caucuses in 1984. I can't remember why, but never again. I was even selected as an uncommitted delegate to the state convention, but I didn't particularly like the process vs. a primary.
"No, you haven't," Biden said. "You're a lying, dog-faced pony soldier."
:wtf: How would he know where she's from, and why be so mean to a young woman?
Biden's campaign press secretary Remi Yamamoto tweeted the comment was a joke: "It's from a John Wayne movie and he's made it plenty of times before."
What's the "joke"? I'll bet the John Wayne context was vastly different.
... Moore told The Washington Post it was "totally irrelevant whether I've been to a caucus or not."

"Joe Biden has been performing incredibly poorly in this race. His inability to answer a simple question from a nobody college student like me only exacerbates that reality," she said.
If there was any doubt, he just lost NH, maybe dropping to single digits and 5th, and maybe sinking his entire campaign. This feels to me like a 'Howard Dean scream' moment. If so, 45SHOLE will take a victory lap, but shit like this makes me wonder if Joe was ever the most likely to beat him.
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