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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:37 pm
Fucking Indiana assholes, I hope they rot in jail, but because it's fucking Indiana they probably won't.

Video on Facebook link.

Video shows Black man pinned to tree in what he calls 'attempted lynching' at Indiana lake

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Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:53 pm
I emailed the DA at the address provided. Fingers crossed.
Have you been taking lessons from neoplacebo?

Two men charged in July 4 ‘attempted lynching’ at Indiana lake

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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:39 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:37 pm
Fucking Indiana assholes, I hope they rot in jail, but because it's fucking Indiana they probably won't.

Video on Facebook link.

Video shows Black man pinned to tree in what he calls 'attempted lynching' at Indiana lake

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 1175677046
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:53 pm
I emailed the DA at the address provided. Fingers crossed.
Have you been taking lessons from neoplacebo?

Two men charged in July 4 ‘attempted lynching’ at Indiana lake

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In a Rebuke of Trump, Congress Moves to Remove Confederate Names from Military Bases

It looks like military bases honoring the memories of Confederate figures are going to need some new names at the front gates. The only questions remaining are whether it takes one year to rename the bases, as prescribed in a House-passed version of a bipartisan military bill or three, as its Senate counterpart calls for — and how much President Donald Trump will exploit the divisive issue for his own political gain....
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Polaris, manufacturer of the Indian brand motorcycles, announced that the legendary "Indian" name, along with models "Scout", "Chief", and "Chieftain" will be retired. The line will be rebadged as "Sentinal". The Scout will be renamed "Sturgis" and and Chieftain will wear the "Daytona" nameplate.

Sure, they are. As if!

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CFL’s Edmonton Eskimos dropping ‘Eskimo’ from team name.

For real. And despite:

This week, the franchise finally released some findings from its consultation with Inuit communities earlier this year, outlined in its 2019 annual report.
That research found that 78 per cent of western Arctic Inuit oppose the team changing its current name, the report said.
In Nunavut, 55 per cent of Inuit oppose a name change, while in the rest of the eastern Arctic, 31 per cent of Inuit oppose any change to the team’s name.
“For the Inuit who view the [team] name positively, the dominant theme is pride,” the report said.

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Vrede too wrote:
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:thumbup: More:
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Aren't those hilarious?
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Aren't those hilarious?
:clap: Thanks.
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Senate defies Trump in passing defense bill calling for removal of Confederate names from U.S. bases by veto-proof majority

... The Senate approved the annual policy measure, 86-14, a margin that suggests more than enough support to override a potential Trump veto. The House approved its version on Tuesday by a veto-proof margin of 295-125....
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Virginia’s state capitol removes busts and statue honouring Confederate leaders

A US state has removed from its capitol building the busts and a statue honouring Confederate generals and officials.

That includes a bronze statue of General Robert E. Lee positioned in the same spot where he stood to assume command of the state’s armed forces in the Civil War nearly 160 years ago....

Virginia House Speaker Eileen Filler-Corn, a Democrat, quietly ordered the Lee statue and busts of generals J.E.B. Stuart, Stonewall Jackson, Confederate President Jefferson Davis, and others removed from the historic Old House Chamber.

... Designed by Thomas Jefferson, the Virginia State Capitol is the first state capitol to open after the American Revolution and was used as the Confederacy’s Capitol during much of the Civil War.

Ms Filler-Corn’s move to remove the Confederate generals comes a few weeks after Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam ordered the removal of a different Lee monument — a 21-foot (6-meter) bronze equestrian sculpture on Richmond’s historic Monument Avenue.

A lawsuit has delayed that statue’s removal, but other Confederate monuments on the street — once one of the most prominent collection of tributes to the Confederacy in the nation — have already come down. And earlier this week, the U.S. House approved a bill to remove statues of Gen. Robert E. Lee and other Confederate leaders from the U.S. Capitol. The bill’s prospects in the Senate are uncertain.

In Virginia, the Old House Chamber was where lawmakers first met when the Capitol opened in 1788 and was used as the House’s meeting place for more than 100 years before the Capitol building was expanded.

It is not currently used for official purposes when the legislature meets.

The chamber’s history is long and varied, then-chief justice of the Supreme Court John Marshall presided over a trial there that saw former Vice President Aaron Burr acquitted of treason but much of the iconography in the room is devoted to Confederates.

Virginia delegates voted in the chamber to secede from the Union in April 1861.

A few days later, Lee entered the room to take formal command of the state’s military.

“Trusting in almighty God, an approving conscience, and the aid of my fellow citizens, I devote myself to the service of my native state, in whose behalf alone will I ever again draw my sword,” Lee said, according to an inscription on the statue.

Seven years later, after the South lost the war, it was the same room where a new constitutional convention met that included black delegates for the first time.

Like many Confederate monuments, most of those recently removed from Virginia’s Capitol were erected decades after the Civil War.

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Confederate statues are covered in tarps while being stored at a waste water treatment plant in Richmond, Virginia (Steve Helber/AP)

They were commissioned and built during the Jim Crow era, when states imposed new segregation laws, and during the Lost Cause movement, when historians and others tried to depict the South’s rebellion as a fight to defend states’ rights, not slavery.

The Lee statue was approved in 1928 with the help of then-governor Harry Byrd, who would later go on to lead the state’s Massive Resistance to racially integrated schools.

Its 25,000 US dollar price tag, about 370,000 US dollars currently, was paid for by the state, donations and an in-kind donation from the sculptor.

Busts of Davis and Alexander Stephens, the vice president of the Confederacy, were donated to Virginia in the 1950s by Mississippi and Georgia....

The House does not control Capitol Square, the outdoor area around the Capitol, which includes statues of Stonewall Jackson and William “Extra Billy” Smith, a former governor and Confederate brigadier general.

The authority to remove those statues is a matter of debate and may need the full approval of the legislature.

The Confederate monuments are not the only tributes to losing causes in and around the Capitol, a building built with slave labour where almost every portrait hanging on the walls is of a white man.

A large statue of Byrd, the arch segregationist, sits on Capitol Square and two portraits hanging prominently in the Capitol.

In the House chamber, directly behind where House speakers preside, is a plaque honouring Nathaniel Bacon.

He was a wealthy colonist who led a failed rebellion in the 1670s whose aims including the unfettered killing of Indians and the seizing of their lands.
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Christopher Columbus statue taken down (by city) at Chicago park

... Protesters across the county have called for the removal of statues of Columbus, saying that he is responsible for the genocide and exploitation of native peoples in the Americas....
Not just in a general sense, either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus
... The debate over Columbus's legacy continues. He was widely venerated in the centuries after his death, but public perception has fractured in recent decades as scholars give greater attention to the harm committed under his governance, particularly the near extermination of the indigenous Taino population from mistreatment and European diseases. There is good evidence that Columbus's regime brutally subjugated and enslaved the Taino to aid the Spanish quest for gold....
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:38 pm
I really don't know what to make of this.

Steven Miller keeps going from having no hair to having (fake) hair. When he consumes the blood of innocent immigrant children his hair game increases, maybe .
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Whack9 wrote:
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Steven Miller keeps going from having no hair to having (fake) hair. When he consumes the blood of innocent immigrant children his hair game increases, maybe .
:D :evil: He drank a good one on Sat night:

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If one is going to wear a wig, why choose one that still makes you look balding?
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Update: 2, Grant Park and Arrigo Park statues.

Christopher Columbus statues taken down at 2 Chicago parks
(Chicago) Park District moves to rename Douglas Park, likely for Frederick Douglass

The Chicago Park District Board voted Wednesday to initiate the process to rename Stephen A. Douglas Park on the city’s West Side, likely for Frederick Douglass.

The unprecedented decision comes after a group of students at Village Leadership Academy spent years campaigning to rename the 218-acre West Side park for former slave and renowned orator and abolitionist Douglass rather than Douglas, a U.S. senator from Illinois who lost the 1860 presidential election to Abraham Lincoln.

“We have not done this before,” said Park board president Avis LaVelle. “We have renamed parks named with numbers, we have renamed parks named for trees and flowers, but we have not ever stripped the name of a historical figure from a park, and replaced it with someone else.”
Good one to be first.
... Douglas was an esteemed politician and held a number of local political posts, including state’s attorney, congressman, Illinois Supreme Court justice and secretary of state. He is also credited with helping bring the Illinois Central Railroad to Chicago.

In the mid-1800s, however, Douglas advocated that voters should decide the legality of slavery rather than abolish it. Douglas also profited from his wife’s ownership of a Mississippi slave plantation.
Weird phrasing, but I suppose they did grow slaves their for profit upon sale, too.
... Several signs in the park already have been changed to “Douglass Park” by someone painting an extra “S” on them....
:D That's something I would have done, taking care to match the original lettering as closely as possible.
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Except for the years when the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts were passed I think 2020 is the worst year for racists since 1865.

Granted, we had a Russian and Comey assisted hiccup in 2016, but still perhaps a good time to recall this essay from 2010:

An Open Letter to the White Right, On the Occasion of Your Recent, Successful Temper Tantrum

Tick, tock.

Tick, tock.

Tick.

Tock.
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Trump was furious after Defense Secretary Esper effectively barred the Confederate flag from military bases

... Trump has previously defended the flag. In an interview with CBS News earlier this month, Trump said: "Well, people love it, and I don't view — I know people that like the Confederate flag and they're not thinking about slavery."

Business Insider highlighted that: "Confederate leaders explicitly laid out in their constitution that the main goal of the Confederacy was to preserve slavery."

... It's also not the first time Trump and Esper were at odds. In June, The Wall Street Journal reported that Trump was mad and almost firest Esper, when the defense secretary publically disagreed with his suggestion to send troops to quell protests.
The White House just accidentally made a strong case to rename the military's Confederate-themed bases

... "The bases are not known for the generals — the bases are known for the heroes within it," McEnany added. "The great Americans: Black, white, Hispanic, and every race who have died on behalf of this great country."

... But McEnany's defense of the Confederate namesakes on Friday inadvertently made a point for new names in remembrance of "great Americans."

... A bipartisan movement has mounted to rename the bases after Medal of Honor recipients like US Army Master Sgt. Roy Benavidez, a Green Beret who took part in "six hours of hell" in the Vietnam War.

In 1968, Benavidez sustained over two dozen gunshot, bayonet, and shrapnel wounds after volunteering for a mission to rescue 12 soldiers.

Benavidez was pronounced dead by the time he arrived back to his base in South Vietnam. After he was placed in a body bag, he signaled he was still alive by spitting at a doctor's face.

Thirteen years later, Benavidez was awarded the Medal of Honor for "fearless personal leadership, tenacious devotion to duty, and extremely valorous actions in the face of overwhelming odds were in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service, and reflect the utmost credit on him and the United States Army."

Benavidez died in 1998.

Calls to rename Fort Hood in Texas — the largest active-duty armored post that honors Confederate Gen. John Hood — in honor of Benavidez, a Texas native of Mexican descent, have grown in light of the military's recent ban on Confederate flags and the growth of the Black Lives Matter movement. The names of other military veterans, including women and Black service members, have also been floated by advocates as prudent replacements to the Confederate leaders who fought to preserve the enslavement of Black Americans.

"Do we continue to honor a Texan of convenience who fought ineptly against the United States government in defense of slavery, or choose instead to bestow those garlands on a native-born son," an opinion column published in the Texas Monthly said....
The Worst Civil War Generals and Commanders

Confederate Lt. Gen. John Bell Hood. In mid-July 1864, Confederate President Jefferson Davis replaced Army of Tennessee commander Joseph Johnston with John Bell Hood. Hood was an aggressive general who liked to attack no matter what the odds. He proceeded over the next several months to wreck the Army of Tennessee at Atlanta, Franklin, and Nashville.
10 Much Better Names for the Army Bases Honoring Confederate Generals
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Denica Coombs, 37, holds a sign she said was intended to remind federal agents that since there's been no move for police reform, the public remains unwilling to stop protesting.

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