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Unread post by neoplacebo » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:30 am

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Charges and jail for safely taking your choking infant to the ER, but:

Officer will not face charges after accidentally shooting suspect in the stomach

The Blue Opps defense.
I came across that story too and saw the cop cam video of it. I understand how things can get hectic in such situations but, gee, mistaking a gun for a taser is kind of a stretch. Just about a week ago another "I thought my gun was a taser" incident happened; it was a traffic stop and the black guy refused to get out of the vehicle so the cop drags him out and they wrestle on the ground a few seconds and then a female cop who was with the other one shoots the driver and uses this same excuse. Maybe tasers should be painted pink or given some other notable obvious characteristic; not sure but I think the female taser shooter was fired over it. Maybe tasers should be replaced with Bull Buster cattle prods; they don't look anything like a gun.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:46 am

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I came across that story too and saw the cop cam video of it. I understand how things can get hectic in such situations but, gee, mistaking a gun for a taser is kind of a stretch. Just about a week ago another "I thought my gun was a taser" incident happened; it was a traffic stop and the black guy refused to get out of the vehicle so the cop drags him out and they wrestle on the ground a few seconds and then a female cop who was with the other one shoots the driver and uses this same excuse. Maybe tasers should be painted pink or given some other notable obvious characteristic; not sure but I think the female taser shooter was fired over it. Maybe tasers should be replaced with Bull Buster cattle prods; they don't look anything like a gun.
This cop apparently violated policy by wearing both on the same hip. So, there's a known risk, policy is put in place to reduce that risk, the cop ignores that policy and a citizen is severely injured, yet the cop skates. :roll:

I'm not sure that visual cues will work given the nature of close quarter altercations. Maybe each should require a double trigger pull, with the taser producing an 'Aaahooogggaaa' on the first pull and the gun a shouted 'BANG!' in Clint Eastwood's voice. The former will often cause a perp to melt in laughter and I know the latter would scare me into submission, thus usually negating the need for a second trigger pull with either.
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Unread post by neoplacebo » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:50 pm

I think it would be a good idea to send Jeff Sessions and Roy Moore into the Alabama state prison system in an undercover role to get to the root of this. It might take a couple years to do an adequate investigation. Roy will be sent to share cell space with "Big Lance" who is very well versed in prison shenanigans and can generally ferret out anything suspicious. Jeff will be tasked with growing out his hair, if he can, and also affecting a scraggly beard. That, along with his natural guilty look, should get him into the right situations to figure out what's going on there.

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Unread post by neoplacebo » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:26 am

Just finished reading "The Black and the Blue" by Matthew Horace, a black former police officer and ultimately a high ranking ATF agent. It's a good treatise on the issues of race relations and police brutality over the past decades written from personal experience of the author.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:33 pm

Disabled Oregon woman on mobility scooter arrested after leading police on low-speed chase

:roll: :crazy: Fwiw, it happened in solidly Repug Curry County.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_Cou ... n#Politics

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Really, A HELMET, on a mobility scooter. GET REAL! I'm disabled and on a good day can WALK faster than most of them go!
This is what multiple officers spent their evening protecting the town from.
So, does this mean that Walmart is going to start issuing helmets for the people that ride in their stores?
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Unread post by neoplacebo » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:00 pm

I doubt this will result in anything; "personnel" records have historically been closely held. I suspect this is why questionable cops can easily move from one agency to another without much fear of being discovered as questionable. Same thing with the Catholic priests; they can move around for decades without being discovered. On the other hand, if a cop is caught on video chasing down a priest and beating the shit out of him in public, or if a Catholic priest is shown on video chasing a naked cop, chances are good that neither of them will be able to advance within the organization.

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I don't know about vrede too, but I myself am wanted in six states, two oil companies, and several Wall Street banks.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:44 pm

Scores of arrests for Nonviolent Direct Action, some convictions, minimal jail, never anything else . . .

. . . since that treason charge was cleared up.
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Minneapolis Jury Finds Ex-Police Officer Guilty In Fatal Shooting Of Unarmed Woman

Surprising. Then again, maybe justice is easier to get when the killer cop is a Black Somali-American with a Muslim name and the victim was a white woman.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Fri May 31, 2019 1:27 pm

Mom shocked that the cute T-shirt she ordered for her 3-year-old came with a profane slogan

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That shirt is clearly wrong, wrong, wrong, frogs and toads don’t ride bicycles. Otherwise, no problem.
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Unread post by O Really » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:30 am

I don't have a map to superimpose, but as I recall from recent articles, a map showing the states with most violent crime would fit in pretty well with the red states on this map. Probably just coincidence :roll:

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:28 am

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I don't have a map to superimpose, but as I recall from recent articles, a map showing the states with most violent crime would fit in pretty well with the red states on this map. Probably just coincidence :roll:
Not bad, your rule applies 8 out of 11 times at either end of the homicide rate spectrum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... icide_rate
(11 selected since there are ties for 10th and 11th at both ends)

11 worst

True for:

Louisiana
Missouri
Nevada
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi
South Carolina
Tennessee

Not true for (no death penalty):
Maryland
Alaska
Illinois

11 best

True for:

New Hampshire
North Dakota
Maine
Rhode Island
Minnesota
Vermont
Massachusetts
Oregon

Not true for (have death penalty):
Idaho
Nebraska
Utah

Clear correlation, not sure if there’s direct causation. We can say, though, that the death penalty has no deterrent effect.

Here's the map:

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Homicide deaths per 100,000 people per year by state (2015)
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:43 pm

Maybe not at home, maybe not when they start the job, but it ain't just a "bad apple or two", all cops are pigs. Otherwise, when 10, 25 or twenty show up this abuse wouldn't happen.
George Carlin said “The owners know the truth. It’s called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

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