Pants on Fire

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billy.pilgrim
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Pants on Fire

Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:39 am

We have a president who has told some 10,000 lies in the past two and a half years.

We have a right winger culture that puts money and profit above all other "outdated" values.

We are huge into media, but media is a lap dog to these same blatant lies and obvious misdirection.

Even though actual facts are easily accessible - the simple facts "in support of" or "those that confirm as bullshit" all the political smoke and mirrors - is available for free from the small group of people at Politifact and all researched and verified nice and tidy for quick and easy consumption.
Yet most people choose to accept any and all lies, or to reject any and all facts, as long as it fits their personal fuck you assholes who look or think differently, anything can be believed.
This end, my end, does justify the means - always. I'm right because I believe it and there are no standards I won't break to achieve my Goal.

Long way around to say I liked the St. Pete paper in the 70s and Politifact is great now

1Cat should give it a try. There even a whole section (under People) on Obama. The thing I hate most is when they say that trump told the truth.
The Pants on Fire section is pretty good too.


https://www.politifact.com/
George Carlin said “The owners know the truth. It’s called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

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Re: Pants on Fire

Unread post by neoplacebo » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:53 am

Yeah, I've never seen anything even close to something like this other than Goebbels during the Nazi era. It's like I mentioned earlier; trump and the vast majority of GOP "leaders" have taken the Russian Internet Research Agency's playbook to heart; the four D's
Dismiss the critic
Distort the facts
Distract from the main issue
Dismay the audience

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Re: Pants on Fire

Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:57 am

:thumbup: :thumbup: I only find its search feature to be unwieldy. I also like and frequently use:

Snopes - Urban Legends

FactCheck.org

Media Matters for America
Unabashedly lefty, but sometimes still the best source for truth

OpenSecrets.org: Money in Politics

SourceWatch

AGW Skeptics debunked
Global Warming & Climate Change Myths

RealClearPolitics - Latest Polls
Unabashedly righty, but seems to be credible in their polling aggregation and presentation

Relevant to the topic:

Liberals Don’t Share or Believe Fake News As Much As Right-Wingers, Study Finds
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/liberals-don- ... 37137.html (article)
Polarization, Partisanship and Junk News Consumption over Social Media in the US
http://comprop.oii.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/ ... nkNews.pdf (study)

Older people, conservatives more likely to share fake news: study
https://www.yahoo.com/news/older-people ... 11480.html (article)
Less than you think: Prevalence and predictors of fake news dissemination on Facebook
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/ ... u4586.full (study)

‘Nothing on this page is real’: How lies become truth in online America
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
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It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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Re: Pants on Fire

Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:05 pm

So how is it that these trump idiots, and even average conservatives, are able to believe so much crap?
George Carlin said “The owners know the truth. It’s called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

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