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If leftist can't beat him, attempt to impeach him.

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WATCH: Pamela Karlan ‘insulted’ over Rep. Collins’ suggestion that she wouldn’t care about facts

It's a beautiful thing.

Pamela Susan Karlan (born February 1959) is a professor of law at Stanford Law School.
"U.S. Deputy Assistant Attorney General for Voting Rights in the United States Department of Justice Civil Division from 2014 to 2015"
"Karlan earned her B.A. degree in history from Yale University in 1980, as well as an M.A. degree in history and J.D. degree in 1984. At Yale Law School, she served as an Article and Book Reviews editor of the Yale Law Journal."
"clerk for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun"
"In 2003, she was appointed to the California Fair Political Practices Commission by Controller Steve Westly. She served as commissioner to help implement and enforce California’s campaign finance, lobbying, and conflict of interest laws until 2005."
"Throughout her career, Karlan has been an advocate before the U.S. Supreme Court."
"Karlan told Politico in 2009, 'It's no secret at all that I'm counted among the LGBT crowd'. She has described herself as an example of 'snarky, bisexual, Jewish women'."

But what does she know?

Rep. Doug Collins (politician)
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"Juris Doctor from Atlanta's John Marshall Law School," nothing distinguishing about his law practice.

But what does he know?
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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:12 pm

More from Prof. Karlan:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/prof-pamela- ... 57633.html
Put simply, a candidate for president should resist foreign interference in our elections, not demand it. If we are to keep faith with the Constitution and our republic, President Trump must be held to account.

A president who cared about the Constitution would say 'Russia, if you're listening, butt out of our elections. I see a pattern in which the president's views about the propriety of foreign governments intervening in our election process are the antithesis of what our framers were committed to.

If you conclude that [Trump] asked for the investigation of Vice President Biden and his son for political reasons, that is, to aid his reelection, then yes, you have bribery here.
Impeach him, convict him, remove him from office, try him for treason and LOCK HIM UP!
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Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:14 pm

If leftist can't beat him, attempt to impeach him.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:25 pm

One thing that's really hilarious is to see 45SHOLE and the Repugs whining like toddlers about unbalanced witness lists when it's Dolt .45 that has prevented so many officials from testifying. Obviously, he knows that they will condemn him or be charged with lying to Congress.
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:37 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:25 pm
One thing that's really hilarious is to see 45SHOLE and the Repugs whining like toddlers about unbalanced witness lists when it's Dolt .45 that has prevented so many officials from testifying. Obviously, he knows that they will condemn him or be charged with lying to Congress.
Pretty simple connection. Reckon leo is just stupid?
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:37 pm
Pretty simple connection. Reckon leo is just stupid?
"leo"?
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Unread post by GoCubsGo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:57 am

Vrede too wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:25 pm
One thing that's really hilarious is to see 45SHOLE and the Repugs whining like toddlers about unbalanced witness lists when it's Dolt .45 that has prevented so many officials from testifying. Obviously, he knows that they will condemn him or be charged with lying to Congress.
Combine that with the "it's going too fast" whine. You know if the dems were waiting on the courts to compel testimony there'd be the "it's taking way too long" whine.
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Re: Impeachment

Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:12 am

Vrede too wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:45 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:37 pm
Pretty simple connection. Reckon leo is just stupid?
"leo"?
Is that your new nickname for 1 FAT CAN? If so, yes, s/he is just stupid in general. However, idk if s/he is specifically stupid here. If my post was an on-point response to hers/his, it's just a funny coincidence. After all, ovine Trumpettes do tend to obediently screech the same whine in unison.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:31 pm

Impeachment report says Mike Pence at least knew of Trump efforts to pressure Ukraine

Locking VP Q-tip up along with convicting and removing POSPOTUS = POTUS Pelosi.
Poor poor cons, they really screwed up this time.
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Unread post by O Really » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:17 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:31 pm
Impeachment report says Mike Pence at least knew of Trump efforts to pressure Ukraine

Locking VP Q-tip up along with convicting and removing POSPOTUS = POTUS Pelosi.
Poor poor cons, they really screwed up this time.
Well, we knew that in all likelihood Pence was at least a passive participant, but this is not good. The only - only - chance of actually removing Trump is is if Pence gets to finish the term. No way in any version of this world are the Repugs going to boot them both and welcome President P-Lo. But if Pence is in line to be President*, there is a possibility of removal of Trump - regardless of what every Repug senator is saying today. Consider - Impeachment charges have not yet been officially presented to the Senate. What possible good would it do a Senator to say, in effect, "I haven't seen the evidence presented yet but I think Trump's guilty." Particularly if you're a Repug, you have absolutely nothing to gain and much to lose by stating anything other than support for Trump at this point. So if a Repug senator thinks really thinks Trump has done no wrong, he'll say so. But even if he thinks Trump is slime and killing the party, he's still going to say Trump has done no wrong. However - when the "trial" gets underway, presided over by John Roberts, and evidence is presented formally to the Senate, it's entirely possible that when votes are counted privately, there may well be enough to toss him. If there are enough solid votes to remove, and the vote goes forward, it will be a major blindside right out of "Survivor" and will be too late for Trump to do much direct damage.

Sure, it's more likely the Repugs will be coerced into voting to keep him, but removal isn't as far out of possibility as the Repugs are saying now.

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Unread post by 1 CAT FAN » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:21 pm

If leftist can't beat him, attempt to impeach him.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:26 pm

O Really wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:17 pm
Well, we knew that in all likelihood Pence was at least a passive participant, but this is not good. The only - only - chance of actually removing Trump is is if Pence gets to finish the term. No way in any version of this world are the Repugs going to boot them both and welcome President P-Lo. But if Pence is in line to be President*, there is a possibility of removal of Trump - regardless of what every Repug senator is saying today. Consider - Impeachment charges have not yet been officially presented to the Senate. What possible good would it do a Senator to say, in effect, "I haven't seen the evidence presented yet but I think Trump's guilty." Particularly if you're a Repug, you have absolutely nothing to gain and much to lose by stating anything other than support for Trump at this point. So if a Repug senator thinks really thinks Trump has done no wrong, he'll say so. But even if he thinks Trump is slime and killing the party, he's still going to say Trump has done no wrong. However - when the "trial" gets underway, presided over by John Roberts, and evidence is presented formally to the Senate, it's entirely possible that when votes are counted privately, there may well be enough to toss him. If there are enough solid votes to remove, and the vote goes forward, it will be a major blindside right out of "Survivor" and will be too late for Trump to do much direct damage.

Sure, it's more likely the Repugs will be coerced into voting to keep him, but removal isn't as far out of possibility as the Repugs are saying now.
Maybe a little hyperbole on my part ;) . I don't think there's yet a movement to impeach VP Q-tip. Even if we eventually went that route, I'd be very surprised by simultaneous impeachment trials. More likely would be first 45SHOLE and then VP Q-tip, by which point he would have appointed his own VP.

So, I'll worry about it step-by-step. Meanwhile, I'm all for anything that shames VP Q-tip and weakens potential future POTUS Q-tip.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:03 pm

How can GOP senators serve as impeachment jurors when they're implicated in Trump's misdeeds?
Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Marsha Blackburn are tied to Russian money and Trump's conspiracy theories. They're not alone


... Political action committees for Republican Sens. Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham reportedly accepted $7.35 million in contributions from a Ukrainian-born oligarch with close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin during the 2016 election....

... Reportedly nervous about his wall of defense in the Senate crumbling, the president hosted several GOP senators at the White House, including Johnson, Graham, John Thune of South Dakota and John Kennedy of Louisiana, last week. A day earlier, Thune and Kennedy, had blocked a Democratic bill to provide funding for states to shore up election security. The next day, Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., quietly blocked three election-security bills for the second time this year.

“You know, it’s not a good sign if you’re doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result," Blackburn said on the Senate floor late last week. She is among the Republican senators with close ties to a U.S.-sanctioned Russian politician who is accused of illegally channeling Russian funds through the NRA. Under Senate rules, any individual senator can block a vote on a bill.

When Senate Republicans are not prematurely dismissing an impeachment inquiry on which they will probably have to render judgment, they continue to protect Trump’s refusal to clamp down on potential election interference. If Republican charges of a "kangaroo court" are anything, they are a classic case of projection: How can Senate Republicans possibly serve as impartial jurors in a trial of the president, when they are implicated in the same pattern of political malfeasance?
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Unread post by neoplacebo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:12 pm

I see my Marsha Blackburn is still getting an honorable mention in the sordid twilight zone world we live in. I sent her a nice email a couple of weeks ago in response to one of her more blatantly stupid periodic bulletins I get from her. The thing was so stupid I even forgot what it was even about; the brain rejection quotient was that high. Anyway, I accused her of being pretty much everything but a white woman. Marsha would take money from a baby while clutching her bible. I may have suggested something along those lines; it's pretty vague. I was worked up.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:52 am

Congress must take the impeachment report seriously

The facts are clear: President Trump abused his power by pressuring a foreign country to interfere in the 2020 election. He has betrayed his oath of office, betrayed our national security and betrayed the integrity of our elections for his own personal political gain.

Congress must take the impeachment report seriously. It’s time to put facts over partisanship. Use this form to tell your member of Congress that what Trump has done—as outlined in the 300-page report—is clearly an impeachable offense....
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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:21 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:12 pm
I see my Marsha Blackburn is still getting an honorable mention in the sordid twilight zone world we live in. I sent her a nice email a couple of weeks ago in response to one of her more blatantly stupid periodic bulletins I get from her. The thing was so stupid I even forgot what it was even about; the brain rejection quotient was that high. Anyway, I accused her of being pretty much everything but a white woman. Marsha would take money from a baby while clutching her bible. I may have suggested something along those lines; it's pretty vague. I was worked up.
If senators read their own mail I'm sure that she would have resigned by now :wave: .
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"Return any campaign contributions arranged by Donald Trump and reject any future attempt to bribe jurors in his impeachment trial."
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Unread post by neoplacebo » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:24 am

Vrede too wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:21 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:12 pm
I see my Marsha Blackburn is still getting an honorable mention in the sordid twilight zone world we live in. I sent her a nice email a couple of weeks ago in response to one of her more blatantly stupid periodic bulletins I get from her. The thing was so stupid I even forgot what it was even about; the brain rejection quotient was that high. Anyway, I accused her of being pretty much everything but a white woman. Marsha would take money from a baby while clutching her bible. I may have suggested something along those lines; it's pretty vague. I was worked up.
If senators read their own mail I'm sure that she would have resigned by now :wave: .
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"Return any campaign contributions arranged by Donald Trump and reject any future attempt to bribe jurors in his impeachment trial."
I was thinking the other day that if Marsha had the same juvenile mindset and worldview as trump, she would have written back to me. I would enjoy a spirited battle of words with her but I decided that she likely gets a lot of insulting messages and unlike trump, does not feel the need to respond to any of them whereas trump the juvenile cannot let a perceived or blatant insult go unanswered. This is regrettable because I have a whole truckload of veiled as well as blatant insults that can be deployed her way. And they're good ones.

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Jerrold Nadler -"We can not wait four years to vote Mr.Trump out of office.... We must keep our eyes on two important goals: depressing Trump's public support and dividing the Congressional GOP from him and from each other."
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If leftist can't beat him, attempt to impeach him.
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