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Re: Gun Legislation

Unread post by neoplacebo » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:29 pm

How about a drug test to buy a gun? I think it quite completely insane that you have to take a drug test to get a job but not to buy a gun. I'm just thankful that you don't have to take a gun test to buy drugs. ok

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:37 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:29 pm
How about a drug test to buy a gun? I think it quite completely insane that you have to take a drug test to get a job but not to buy a gun. I'm just thankful that you don't have to take a gun test to buy drugs. ok
I think that an IQ test to buy a gun would be more beneficial.
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Re: Gun Legislation

Unread post by neoplacebo » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:41 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:37 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:29 pm
How about a drug test to buy a gun? I think it quite completely insane that you have to take a drug test to get a job but not to buy a gun. I'm just thankful that you don't have to take a gun test to buy drugs. ok
I think that an IQ test to buy a gun would be more beneficial.
Probably true but would have a severe impact on sales

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Re: Gun Legislation

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:01 pm

H R 8
YEA-AND-NAY 27-Feb-2019
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: Bipartisan Background Checks Act


Not very "Bipartisan". :roll: :(

Democratic 232 Yeas, 2 Nays, 1 NV
Republican 8 Yeas, 188 Nays, 1 NV
TOTALS 240 Yeas, 190 Nays, 2 NV

Now, death in the Senate.
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Re: Gun Legislation

Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:03 am

Subject: Shoot down SB 192 and HB 216!

Honestly, what is wrong with some Republicans?

Every child, every teacher, every member of a school’s
staff is entitled to a safe environment at school. No one should live with the fear
that sending their kids to school may be placing them in harm's way. No school staff
should feel his or her lives are in jeopardy for simply showing up at work. Keeping
guns off school property ensures a safer and more supportive learning environment
for our children but we also need more helping professionals, more restorative
justice programs, and other constructive ways to improve school safety. We need
common sense, effective solutions that work.

I support legislation that works towards creating safe, secure schools for all our
students and teachers including: keeping guns off schools grounds, not arming
teachers at school, increasing the number of social workers, counselors,
psychologists, and nurses in our schools, implementing violence prevention and
threat reporting programs at school, increasing funding for school security, and
passing comprehensive, common sense gun safety laws that work to protect our
children.

I support legislation that works towards creating safe, secure schools for all our
students and teachers including:

Keeping guns off schools grounds.
Not arming teachers at school.
Increasing the number of social workers, counselors, psychologists, and nurses in
our schools.
Implementing violence prevention and threat reporting programs at school.
Increasing funding for school security.
Passing comprehensive, common sense gun safety laws that work to protect our children.

Vote NO to Senate Bill 192 and House Bill 216!

I await your reply.

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Sincerely,

Senator Warren Daniel
Senate District 46
Avery, Burke & Caldwell Counties
Wow, does he whine like this at every citizen that signs a petition?
Cool, I enjoy that you're too slow to see that my email is not entirely
"canned", and that you're so immature as to take the time to send me this
sarcastic snark. I figured out that you're a Repug before looking you up.
Keep at it, you're representing your party and ammosexuals perfectly!

Thanks!

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:39 pm

America: Exporting death is our business, and business is good.

Congress Has Opportunity to Halt Dangerous Firearms Export Changes
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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:12 am

Not a surprise:
These 2 Laws Are Tied to Lower Gun Homicide Rates
New research suggests restricting who can have a gun is more effective than banning a type of gun when it comes to curbing homicides.


... Across U.S. states, laws banning gun possession for people who had been convicted of a violent misdemeanor were associated with an 18.1 percent reduction in gun homicide rates, Siegel's study found, while universal background checks were linked to a 14.9 percent decline....
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Unread post by neoplacebo » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:49 am

I saw a story this morning that Wayne La Pierre is saying the NRA is at risk of going broke and he's sent out a frantic fund raising call. The panic is blamed on some case in NY and Wayne blamed Governor Cuomo for this turn of events. I won't be sending Wayne any money and may instead send him an invoice for 100 dollars as recompense for my being exposed to his vile rants.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:08 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:49 am
I saw a story this morning that Wayne La Pierre is saying the NRA is at risk of going broke and he's sent out a frantic fund raising call. The panic is blamed on some case in NY and Wayne blamed Governor Cuomo for this turn of events. I won't be sending Wayne any money and may instead send him an invoice for 100 dollars as recompense for my being exposed to his vile rants.
Not a good week for them.

Supreme Court Refuses to Block Ban on Bump Stocks

"no noted dissents," but this was just a jump-the-line request for emergency relief. Lots of challenges moving forward in the courts through the normal process.
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Unread post by O Really » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:48 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:08 pm


"no noted dissents," but this was just a jump-the-line request for emergency relief. Lots of challenges moving forward in the courts through the normal process.
True that, but if they had thought the plaintiffs were likely to prevail, they'd possibly have stayed the ban pending appeal.

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Unread post by O Really » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:23 am

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/a- ... &ocid=iehp

Guy keeps a loaded pistol with one in the chamber in his diaper bag. "The gun went off" (obviously disproving the theory that "guns don't kill people" :roll: ) And what do the cops say?
"This was a tragic accident and condolences from the VHPD and VHFD go out to the family involved," the police department said in a release.

Let's see, what other form of negligence that results in injury to a child would be accepted with an "Oh well..." Ummmmm - that would be none.

Happy 20th to Columbine, BTW. I looked for a list of all the firearm safety measures that have been taken since then but all i could find was articles about school shootings, office shootings, domestic shootings, bar shootings ...

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Unread post by GoCubsGo » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:47 am

O Really wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:23 am
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/a- ... &ocid=iehp

Guy keeps a loaded pistol with one in the chamber in his diaper bag. "The gun went off" (obviously disproving the theory that "guns don't kill people" :roll: ) And what do the cops say?
"This was a tragic accident and condolences from the VHPD and VHFD go out to the family involved," the police department said in a release.

Let's see, what other form of negligence that results in injury to a child would be accepted with an "Oh well..." Ummmmm - that would be none.

Happy 20th to Columbine, BTW. I looked for a list of all the firearm safety measures that have been taken since then but all i could find was articles about school shootings, office shootings, domestic shootings, bar shootings ...
Well, the guy did die. Seems like it'd be hard to charge him. Maybe justice was served?
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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:54 am

O Really wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:23 am
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/a- ... &ocid=iehp

Guy keeps a loaded pistol with one in the chamber in his diaper bag. "The gun went off" (obviously disproving the theory that "guns don't kill people" :roll: ) And what do the cops say?
"This was a tragic accident and condolences from the VHPD and VHFD go out to the family involved," the police department said in a release.

Let's see, what other form of negligence that results in injury to a child would be accepted with an "Oh well..." Ummmmm - that would be none.

Dad died. It's not like the cops are going to exclaim, "Darwin! Good riddance," even if that's what they're thinking. :D I will, though. ;)

Edit: GoCubsGo beat me to it.


Happy 20th to Columbine, BTW. I looked for a list of all the firearm safety measures that have been taken since then but all i could find was articles about school shootings, office shootings, domestic shootings, bar shootings ...

Don't forget the entirely unenforceable and limited usefulness, anyhow, bump stock ban.
The girl is expected to make a full recovery
:thumbup:
After the gun went off, the bullet traveled through Smith's leg and then the child's leg before lodging in the man's chest
I'm guessing it wasn't a .22.
Vestavia Hills, Alabama ... outside a Chuck E Cheese's.
The cholesterol was going to get him, anyhow.
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Unread post by O Really » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:04 am

Sure the guy died so there are no charges, but couldn't they say "it's a tragic result of not using adequate precautions with firearms" or "it's sad that another death and injury was caused by carelessness"? Of course, given that the shooter/shootee was a black guy, it's surprising the cops didn't find the self-inflicted shot to be "justified."

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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:20 am

O Really wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:04 am
Sure the guy died so there are no charges, but couldn't they say "it's a tragic result of not using adequate precautions with firearms" or "it's sad that another death and injury was caused by carelessness"?
Or just post:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdOPBP9vuZA

More seriously, that would be the cops just saying what we're ALL thinking, anyhow, while likely causing the family to go ballistic over rubbing it in.
Of course, given that the shooter/shootee was a black guy, it's surprising the cops didn't find the self-inflicted shot to be "justified."
It's Alabama, some things don't need to be said.
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Unread post by O Really » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:11 am

I don't know what the concealed carry law is in Alabama, if any, but they didn't mention whether he was legally carrying or not. Not that it really matters in the overall scheme of things, but it's just so sickening that "opps" covers so many preventable gun incidences.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:22 pm

Just on principle diaper bags should not be legal concealed carry.
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Unread post by O Really » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:24 am

O Really wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:04 am
Sure the guy died so there are no charges, but couldn't they say "it's a tragic result of not using adequate precautions with firearms" or "it's sad that another death and injury was caused by carelessness"? Of course, given that the shooter/shootee was a black guy, it's surprising the cops didn't find the self-inflicted shot to be "justified."
Here's an example when it's not a gun...

Two idiots playing in waterfalls:
"The first waterfall rescue of the year highlights the extreme dangers around waterfalls, forest managers say, especially when people ignore posted warning signs and enter areas that are off-limits."

What, no simple "opps" and move on?

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