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Re: Pentagon bloat, etc. thread

Unread post by neoplacebo » Fri May 17, 2019 10:46 pm

This war on terror shit is what's led to a perpetual state of conflict. There's just no goddam end to it as well as no way to know if you're winning or not. It's like being in line at some venue you don't even want to be at. No bird in the hand or even one in the bush.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Fri May 17, 2019 11:20 pm

neoplacebo wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:46 pm
This war on terror shit is what's led to a perpetual state of conflict. There's just no goddam end to it as well as no way to know if you're winning or not. It's like being in line at some venue you don't even want to be at. No bird in the hand or even one in the bush.
Chicken-egg? Not going to take a stand, but I think I could argue that US militarism intentionally created the War on Terror. Not saying that we create the terrorism, but the response to it is our choice.

I've long thought that the core struggle is not Muslim-Christian, East-West or commie-capitalist, but rather the violent bastards vs. the rest of us. One team's assholes justifies the others'.
It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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Unread post by neoplacebo » Sat May 18, 2019 8:11 am

Vrede too wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:20 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:46 pm
This war on terror shit is what's led to a perpetual state of conflict. There's just no goddam end to it as well as no way to know if you're winning or not. It's like being in line at some venue you don't even want to be at. No bird in the hand or even one in the bush.
Chicken-egg? Not going to take a stand, but I think I could argue that US militarism intentionally created the War on Terror. Not saying that we create the terrorism, but the response to it is our choice.

I've long thought that the core struggle is not Muslim-Christian, East-West or commie-capitalist, but rather the violent bastards vs. the rest of us. One team's assholes justifies the others'.
Well, I think we actually do "create the terrorism" to some extent by our blind support for Israel (moving our embassy there from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is a good example) and how a lot of the right wing nutjobs screech about anything they consider in any way critical of Israel, as if their interests are identical with ours. And there's also our military footprint in Saudi Arabia, which a lot of younger more devout Saudis consider to be outright blasphemous. So I see that if our goal were to actually create terrorists, we couldn't do much better if we tried. Hell, our monumental misadventure in Iraq did, in effect, create ISIS.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sat May 18, 2019 9:55 am

I agree.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Mon May 20, 2019 11:34 am

The U.S. Is Spending $1.25 Trillion Annually on War

In its latest budget request, the Trump administration is asking for a near-record $750 billion for the Pentagon and related defense activities, an astonishing figure by any measure. If passed by Congress, it will, in fact, be one of the largest military budgets in American history, topping peak levels reached during the Korean and Vietnam Wars. And keep one thing in mind: that $750 billion represents only part of the actual annual cost of our national security state.

There are at least 10 separate pots of money dedicated to fighting wars, preparing for yet more wars, and dealing with the consequences of wars already fought. So the next time a president, a general, a secretary of defense, or a hawkish member of Congress insists that the U.S. military is woefully underfunded, think twice. A careful look at U.S. defense expenditures offers a healthy corrective to such wildly inaccurate claims....
It really is time to stop being nice about stupidity.

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