Not a problem in this household. I keep a bucket next to my toilet with a sponge wrapped around a stick. Whip it out, scrub it down, and throw it back in the bucket.GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:17 pmYeah, but do you have three months worth of TP?
. He also effusively praised Pelosi. 
Whack9 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:23 pmGuy goes on a 1300 mile trek to rural communities across the US buying up the entire stock of hand sanitizer and clorax wipes to sell at a market. Says he's fixing "market inneficiences" and is actually doing the public a service.
Amazon pits a stop to it and now he's stuck with 17k bottles of wet wipes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/tech ... wgXw4700Hy
Maybe they did and the sign caused EVERYONE to buy to the limitO Really wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:36 pmAlbertson's and the Farm Market store were both fairly normal crowds today, but there had definitely been some raiding. For some reason, chicken products were empty, although other meats and seafood were normal stock. On a totally empty shelf, Albertson's had a sign saying "Due to high demand, we will limit sales to ..." I wonder why they didn't think of that when the first person came in with their wheelbarrow....
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If trump knew about this, he'd praise the guy and say he's "doing a terrific job; better than anyone could imagine. I will tell you that."Whack9 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:23 pmGuy goes on a 1300 mile trek to rural communities across the US buying up the entire stock of hand sanitizer and clorax wipes to sell at a market. Says he's fixing "market inneficiences" and is actually doing the public a service.
Amazon pits a stop to it and now he's stuck with 17k bottles of wet wipes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/tech ... wgXw4700Hy
Now statewide NC and all K12 schools closed for 2 weeks. Whoa.
One of the consequences of inadequate testing is that we just don't have enough info. to make an educated guess.bannination wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:50 pmI've not seen this discussed anywhere, so either I'm an idiot, or novel like the virus.
I'm just amazed and amazed at the lack of preparedness of the United States. (Pretty much like every sane human being...) I'm looking at it from the militaristic side though. How do we spend so much goddamn money on the military and we're this unprepared for biological warfare?
I'm not saying it is biological warfare, don't get me wrong. Just that it works a lot like a biological war would and we're just pants down and bent over waiting on it even with a relatively minor person to person transmission rate.
That's the real WTF.
I still stand by a minimum of 1 million people infected within the next 28 days unless something drastic changes.
Capitalism!Whack9 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:23 pmGuy goes on a 1300 mile trek to rural communities across the US buying up the entire stock of hand sanitizer and clorax wipes to sell at a market. Says he's fixing "market inneficiences" and is actually doing the public a service.
Amazon pits a stop to it and now he's stuck with 17k bottles of wet wipes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/tech ... wgXw4700Hy
Chi-town ain't afraid of no virus...
Those are off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure they're valid, though perhaps not sufficient. Maybe the sponsoring pols and/or the American Federation of Teachers have more detail on their websites?O Really wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:52 pmNot that I oppose the bill, but what objective reason is there for requiring such things as paid leave, etc. for coronavirus and not for other (possibly/likely) more serious illnesses that people get all the time?
Flatten the pandemic curve so that the healthcare system is not overwhelmed in the short term despite the fact that we'll all likely be exposed eventually. That said, it is obscene that localized populations are endangered by employees who are sick with other diseases and can't afford to stay home.
And why protect employees against layoff for coronavirus and not from times when employers have layoffs for other reasons? Just askin'
Because mass pandemic layoffs threaten the economy, not just the laid off. That said, I'm all for future enhanced layoff protection and mediation in general.
That would be the case even without the right-wing coronavirus lies since the elderly are more at risk. Clearly, god and cons have united for the good of America and the world.O Really wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:50 pmSo not all the Coronavirus news is bad...
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/more-r ... columnist/
"More Republicans than Democrats will die because of right-wing coronavirus lies: conservative columnist"
Vrede too wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:16 pmThose are off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure they're valid, though perhaps not sufficient. Maybe the sponsoring pols and/or the American Federation of Teachers have more detail on their websites?O Really wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:52 pmNot that I oppose the bill, but what objective reason is there for requiring such things as paid leave, etc. for coronavirus and not for other (possibly/likely) more serious illnesses that people get all the time?
Flatten the pandemic curve so that the healthcare system is not overwhelmed in the short term despite the fact that we'll all likely be exposed eventually. That said, it is obscene that localized populations are endangered by employees who are sick with other diseases and can't afford to stay home.
And why protect employees against layoff for coronavirus and not from times when employers have layoffs for other reasons? Just askin'
Because mass pandemic layoffs threaten the economy, not just the laid off. That said, I'm all for future enhanced layoff protection and mediation in general.
O Really wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:55 pmCertainly valid reasons, but still - not having any paid sick leave makes the food server go to work with colds, flu, whatever all year long. Probably a greater risk overall than the direct risk of coronavirus.
I'm not sure about that.
CV-19 is 20-30 times more lethal than the flu and apparently just as contagious.
The flu has the potential to overwhelm the healthcare system and in rare years does so, but usually not. We've already seen CV-19 do exactly that in some nations or parts of them.
"colds ... whatever" can be bad for those affected, but the system copes.
My theory - Dems are taking advantage of the situation and getting a start on some things that need to be done long-term but wouldn't get passed under "normal" circumstances. We'll see.
Nttawwt, but I suspect the bill's language is more specific than that, and will sunset. We'll hear the screeching if more fundamental change is being proposed, but I believe this is a bipartisan compromise.
