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O Really wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:46 pm
Sounds like the father didn't help things. If a kid comes home and says "teacher says blah-blah," the helpful reaction probably isn't to say "your teacher is an idiot" even if that's clearly true. I'd suggest he could have encouraged/helped the kid to be more of a questioning person and look for verification or contradiction of things he hears regardless of source. It wouldn't take much digging to show the teacher to be the idiot (s)he is if the kid did it himself.
We don't know how dad reacted. The article only states what the kid supposedly said to dad. I might have gone with, "Your teacher is an idiot," then your research suggestion. :wave:
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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:46 pm
Sounds like the father didn't help things. If a kid comes home and says "teacher says blah-blah," the helpful reaction probably isn't to say "your teacher is an idiot" even if that's clearly true. I'd suggest he could have encouraged/helped the kid to be more of a questioning person and look for verification or contradiction of things he hears regardless of source. It wouldn't take much digging to show the teacher to be the idiot (s)he is if the kid did it himself.
We don't know how dad reacted. The article only states what the kid supposedly said to dad. I might have gone with, "Your teacher is an idiot," then your research suggestion. :wave:
Yeah, I just inferred that the dad's reaction was something like "idiot" because of the kid's defence of the idiot. I'm just thinking that something like "that's interesting - have you been able to check that from other sources?" might not have sparked as much.

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Education thread, who would've thought? :thumbup:

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Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:23 pm
Education thread, who would've thought? :thumbup:

Thx.
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Education thread, but this may be a better place....
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O Really wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:46 pm
Sounds like the father didn't help things. If a kid comes home and says "teacher says blah-blah," the helpful reaction probably isn't to say "your teacher is an idiot" even if that's clearly true. I'd suggest he could have encouraged/helped the kid to be more of a questioning person and look for verification or contradiction of things he hears regardless of source. It wouldn't take much digging to show the teacher to be the idiot (s)he is if the kid did it himself.
We don't know how dad reacted. The article only states what the kid supposedly said to dad. I might have gone with, "Your teacher is an idiot," then your research suggestion. :wave:
Yeah, I just inferred that the dad's reaction was something like "idiot" because of the kid's defence of the idiot. I'm just thinking that something like "that's interesting - have you been able to check that from other sources?" might not have sparked as much.
I've posted before about the 3 very frustrating years I spent trying to convince my son that the very nice man at the "fun" park (who proved so convincingly that dinosaurs lived at the same time as Jesus) was a lying piece of shit.

It was so hard initially to be respectful about something I've always laughed at and I imagine that I initial reaction was laughter or something close.

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... Remember when infrastructure was a central Repug campaign plank in 2016?
Remember how Dolt .45 and crew never delivered in 4 years?
Republicans are going after their own after 13 voted with House Democrats in favor of the bipartisan infrastructure bill

... "I can't believe Republicans just gave the Democrats their socialism bill." Rep Matt Gaetz of Florida said....
Strange whine for a Rep from a heavily militarized district in a heavily VA/SSI/Medicare dependent state.
Rep. Adam Kinzinger, one of the Republicans who voted for the bill, responded to Greene in a tweet, mocking her for referring to the infrastructure bill as communist: "Infrastructure=communism is a new one. Eisenhower's interstate system should be torn up or else the commies will be able to conveniently drive!" ...
Idk about "communism", but this bill and Eisenhower's interstate system are indeed socialist, and there's not one fucking thing wrong with that.

Funny that with 435 House members pretty much all of the ones that we feature or frequently discuss are in this article:
McCarthy
Marjorie Taylor Greene WTF?
My Mad
#LaurenBoebertIsSoDumb
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Kinzinger

Aside: 'Kinzinger' makes me think of a cutting insult made by a tipsy uncle at Thanksgiving dinner.
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I think ike's interstate system destroyed small towns, small business and mom and pop entrepreneurs all over, leaving us with big box stores, chain restaurants and low wages.
I meant that "there's not one fucking thing wrong with" Eisenhower's interstate system being socialist, not that it didn't have negative effects. It also helped reshape our economy and culture into being so auto-dependent, with the downsides of that including everything from oil wars to AGW. Then, there's:

Buttigieg says infrastructure bill will address racist highway design
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I've posted before about the 3 very frustrating years I spent trying to convince my son that the very nice man at the "fun" park (who proved so convincingly that dinosaurs lived at the same time as Jesus) was a lying piece of shit.

It was so hard initially to be respectful about something I've always laughed at and I imagine that I initial reaction was laughter or something close.

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It took several years of careful discussions to help my son understand that Dr. Dino was a lying piece of shit who used lies and deceit to trick children into believing ignorant fairy tales about men walking with dinosaurs but couldn’t fit them on the fucking (story stolen from the Persians) ark. I still hold this grudge.

What did Dr. Dino do/say to be more resolutely believable to your son than, say, Disney World or some other Dinosaur museum?
I didn't catch a response to O Really, how long did it take to undoctrinate your son?
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GoCubsGo wrote:
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:02 pm


I've posted before about the 3 very frustrating years I spent trying to convince my son that the very nice man at the "fun" park (who proved so convincingly that dinosaurs lived at the same time as Jesus) was a lying piece of shit.

It was so hard initially to be respectful about something I've always laughed at and I imagine that I initial reaction was laughter or something close.

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O Really wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:31 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:48 am


It took several years of careful discussions to help my son understand that Dr. Dino was a lying piece of shit who used lies and deceit to trick children into believing ignorant fairy tales about men walking with dinosaurs but couldn’t fit them on the fucking (story stolen from the Persians) ark. I still hold this grudge.

What did Dr. Dino do/say to be more resolutely believable to your son than, say, Disney World or some other Dinosaur museum?
I didn't catch a response to O Really, how long did it take to undoctrinate your son?
It was 2 or 3 years. He's as stubborn as I am and he was shown the physical proof.

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I didn't catch a response to O Really, how long did it take to undoctrinate your son?
"undoctrinate" - great word.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:16 am
I think ike's interstate system destroyed small towns, small business and mom and pop entrepreneurs all over, leaving us with big box stores, chain restaurants and low wages.
I meant that "there's not one fucking thing wrong with" Eisenhower's interstate system being socialist, not that it didn't have negative effects. It also helped reshape our economy and culture into being so auto-dependent, with the downsides of that including everything from oil wars to AGW. Then, there's:

Buttigieg says infrastructure bill will address racist highway design
Racist RepuQs being lying crybabies in denial, as usual:

Buttigieg responds to Ted Cruz (Mike Huckabee, Fucker Carlson and others) on racism in highway design
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Vrede too wrote:
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GoCubsGo wrote:
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I didn't catch a response to O Really, how long did it take to undoctrinate your son?
"undoctrinate" - great word.
🤔😂I wasn't sure it was real but it felt right!
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GoCubsGo wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:50 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:58 am
I didn't catch a response to O Really, how long did it take to undoctrinate your son?
"undoctrinate" - great word.
🤔😂I wasn't sure it was real but it felt right!
If it's not real, it should be. Oxford and Merriam-Webster have accepted a lot worse.

And apparently somebody else has also thought of it
https://undoctrinate.org/

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:35 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:50 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:58 am
I didn't catch a response to O Really, how long did it take to undoctrinate your son?
"undoctrinate" - great word.
🤔😂 I wasn't sure it was real but it felt right!
:D I checked.
O Really wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:43 pm
If it's not real, it should be. Oxford and Merriam-Webster have accepted a lot worse.

And apparently somebody else has also thought of it
https://undoctrinate.org/
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It takes more than just a good word, no matter how clever. The dictionaries expect a certain level of general use. So if we want to get the word in, we've got to start getting others to use it.

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It takes more than just a good word, no matter how clever. The dictionaries expect a certain level of general use. So if we want to get the word in, we've got to start getting others to use it.
Okay, your turn :P . Mention the website, I'd already submitted when I saw your post.
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O Really wrote:
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It takes more than just a good word, no matter how clever. The dictionaries expect a certain level of general use. So if we want to get the word in, we've got to start getting others to use it.
Uhhhh, I don't know, man. I sort of have a problem with trying to indoctrinate people to using a new word that means the exact opposite of what is required to get them to use that new word. I could probably get behind "unoculate" as a word for the fools to won't get inoculated, though.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:34 pm
It takes more than just a good word, no matter how clever. The dictionaries expect a certain level of general use. So if we want to get the word in, we've got to start getting others to use it.
Uhhhh, I don't know, man. I sort of have a problem with trying to indoctrinate people to using a new word that means the exact opposite of what is required to get them to use that new word. I could probably get behind "unoculate" as a word for the fools to won't get inoculated, though.
"Confuse" works just as well.

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When hate and spite are so strong you'd rather choose death over life:

https://bostonreview.net/race/jonathan- ... -whiteness
In early 2016 I met Trevor, a forty-one-year-old uninsured Tennessean who drove a cab for twenty years until worsening pain in the upper-right part of his abdomen forced him to see a physician. Trevor learned that the pain resulted from an inflamed liver, the consequence of “years of hard partying” and the damaging effects of hepatitis C. When I met him at a low-income housing facility outside Nashville, Trevor appeared yellow with jaundice and ambled with the help of an aluminum walker to alleviate the pain he felt in his stomach and legs.

Debates raged in Tennessee around the same time about the state’s participation in the Affordable Care Act and the related expansion of Medicaid coverage. Had Trevor lived a thirty-nine-minute drive away in neighboring Kentucky, he might have topped the list of candidates for expensive medications called polymerase inhibitors, a lifesaving liver transplant, or other forms of treatment and support. Kentucky adopted the ACA and began the expansion in 2013, while Tennessee’s legislature repeatedly blocked Obama-era health care reforms.

Even on death’s doorstep, Trevor was not angry. In fact, he staunchly supported the stance promoted by his elected officials. “Ain’t no way I would ever support Obamacare or sign up for it,” he told me. “I would rather die.” When I asked him why he felt this way even as he faced severe illness, he explained: “We don’t need any more government in our lives. And in any case, no way I want my tax dollars paying for Mexicans or welfare queens.”
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Whack9 wrote:
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When hate and spite are so strong you'd rather choose death over life:

https://bostonreview.net/race/jonathan- ... -whiteness
In early 2016 I met Trevor, a forty-one-year-old uninsured Tennessean who drove a cab for twenty years until worsening pain in the upper-right part of his abdomen forced him to see a physician. Trevor learned that the pain resulted from an inflamed liver, the consequence of “years of hard partying” and the damaging effects of hepatitis C. When I met him at a low-income housing facility outside Nashville, Trevor appeared yellow with jaundice and ambled with the help of an aluminum walker to alleviate the pain he felt in his stomach and legs.

Debates raged in Tennessee around the same time about the state’s participation in the Affordable Care Act and the related expansion of Medicaid coverage. Had Trevor lived a thirty-nine-minute drive away in neighboring Kentucky, he might have topped the list of candidates for expensive medications called polymerase inhibitors, a lifesaving liver transplant, or other forms of treatment and support. Kentucky adopted the ACA and began the expansion in 2013, while Tennessee’s legislature repeatedly blocked Obama-era health care reforms.

Even on death’s doorstep, Trevor was not angry. In fact, he staunchly supported the stance promoted by his elected officials. “Ain’t no way I would ever support Obamacare or sign up for it,” he told me. “I would rather die.” When I asked him why he felt this way even as he faced severe illness, he explained: “We don’t need any more government in our lives. And in any case, no way I want my tax dollars paying for Mexicans or welfare queens.”
Another numbnut moron with a zero sum world view; if somebody else gets something, it means I'm having something taken from me. The Republican party has had phenomenal success in getting people to vote against their own interests.

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So for whatever reason I flipped on the House hearing on Gosar force couple of minutes.

The wingnuts are using all their time not defending Gosar but railing against Biden, the border, vaccines etc.

Basically their greatest hits.

The Dems are mostly staying on point, falling on deaf ears.


I continue to have no faith in our government.
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