The Supremes

[O Really]

There is going to be some major creativity in the market.

[billy.pilgrim]

It happened, past tense - nothing can be done about that. All that's left is to help soften the blow to as many as possible and use the backlash from this religious/political bs to bury them.

[Vrede too]

So?

So is driving 20 mph over the speed limit. So are a lot of things. The doc I mentioned earlier ships everything in plain packaging.

Or a lot of people can afford a day or weekend in Mexico.
And maybe we can help the others.

I was thinking that maybe I could offer to drive women here from SC or even TN, KY or WV. If I decide to do this, or to drive pills into those states and my help is wanted, I won't be announcing it here. Crap, I am so sad and angry . . .

[GoCubsGo]

So?

So is driving 20 mph over the speed limit. So are a lot of things. The doc I mentioned earlier ships everything in plain packaging.

Or a lot of people can afford a day or weekend in Mexico.
And maybe we can help the others.

I was thinking that maybe I could offer to drive women here from SC or even TN, KY or WV. If I decide to do this, or to drive pills into those states and my help is wanted, I won't be announcing it here. Crap, I am so sad and angry . . .

My sister does that here, mostly women that have been flown in from other states. Pick up and drop off at O'Hare to the clinic as well as local women that just need transportation.

[Vrede too]

My sister does that here, mostly women that have been flown in from other states. Pick up and drop off at O'Hare to the clinic as well as local women that just need transportation.

According to the map just flashed on the TV news abortion is still legal in SC and no "trigger laws" are in place, but it won't stay legal there long. Here in NC the RepuQs would need to pick up enough seats to override a Gov Cooper veto.

[Vrede too]

It happened, past tense - nothing can be done about that. All that's left is to help soften the blow to as many as possible and use the backlash from this religious/political bs to bury them.

Women in FL and AL will have to drive huge distances - 350 miles according to TV - in order to get abortion services. Will the Hwy Patrol in transited states be on the lookout for them?

[billy.pilgrim]

It happened, past tense - nothing can be done about that. All that's left is to help soften the blow to as many as possible and use the backlash from this religious/political bs to bury them.

Women in FL and AL will have to drive huge distances - 350 miles according to TV - in order to get abortion services. Will the Hwy Patrol in transited states be on the lookout for them?

Will have to?

What about now?

viewtopic.php?p=168588&hilit=Abortion#p168588

[Vrede too]

Women in FL and AL will have to drive huge distances - 350 miles according to TV - in order to get abortion services. Will the Hwy Patrol in transited states be on the lookout for them?

Will have to?

What about now?

viewtopic.php?p=168588&hilit=Abortion#p168588

Yeah, that's fucked up. I'm sorry for your region.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2022/05/ ... 871271002/

... Whoever is at fault, the fact is that now there are no abortion clinics between New Orleans and Tallahassee....

Pretty soon New Orleans and Tallahassee won't be options, either.

[billy.pilgrim]

Women in FL and AL will have to drive huge distances - 350 miles according to TV - in order to get abortion services. Will the Hwy Patrol in transited states be on the lookout for them?

Will have to?

What about now?

viewtopic.php?p=168588&hilit=Abortion#p168588

Yeah, that's fucked up. I'm sorry for your region.

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2022/05/ ... 871271002/

... Whoever is at fault, the fact is that now there are no abortion clinics between New Orleans and Tallahassee....

Pretty soon New Orleans and Tallahassee won't be options, either.

Cruise ships?

[O Really]

Cruise ships?

Good idea.
Indians?

[Vrede too]

Cruise ships?

A RepuQ admin might insist that they stay out of our EEZ.

The U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) extends no more than 200 nautical miles from the territorial sea baseline and is adjacent to the 12 nautical mile territorial sea of the U.S., including the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, the U.S. Virgin Islands, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and any other territory or possession over which the United States exercises sovereignty.

Good idea.
Indians?

East or Native American, and why Indians? i guess there could be these:

[O Really]

The idea came up largely from Oklahoma. A mega abortion clinic somewhere on a rez down in the southeast area of Oklahoma could serve a very wide market. Likewise the spot shown on the map in southeast Alabama. Revenue over time could meet or exceed casinos, while performing a societal service. I'm sure the Okies would try to put up roadblocks (literally and figuratively), but if it's an Indian enterprise on Indian land I think it would take a federal law to stop it. A lot of the reservation areas have their own healthcare sytems, providers, and facilities and probably do some abortions as is. Somebody should keep doing what they're doing, let the state sue/charge them and give it a shot.

[GoCubsGo]

The idea came up largely from Oklahoma. A mega abortion clinic somewhere on a rez down in the southeast area of Oklahoma could serve a very wide market. Likewise the spot shown on the map in southeast Alabama. Revenue over time could meet or exceed casinos, while performing a societal service. I'm sure the Okies would try to put up roadblocks (literally and figuratively), but if it's an Indian enterprise on Indian land I think it would take a federal law to stop it. A lot of the reservation areas have their own healthcare sytems, providers, and facilities and probably do some abortions as is. Somebody should keep doing what they're doing, let the state sue/charge them and give it a shot.

Interesting.

Lots of potential pitfalls especially for the doctors and nurses licensed in their respective states though.

Possibly new case law in the making but that won't do them any good if a board suspended them.

[O Really]

Good point, but...
"As a matter of federal law under the IHCIA, licensed health professionals employed by a
tribal health program are exempt from the licensing requirements of the State in which the tribal
health program is located, provided they are licensed in any other State.139 When a tribe or tribal
organization provides services pursuant to an ISDEAA contract or compact,140 these federal
licensing rules preempt state licensing requirements"

Might involve some hoop-jumping, but it still looks workable even if not easy.

[Vrede too]

Rez abortions might be legal and unstoppable by the misogynists, but women could still be charged for traveling to them like for traveling to abortion-legal states.

[GoCubsGo]

Rez abortions might be legal and unstoppable by the misogynists, but women could still be charged for traveling to them like for traveling to abortion-legal states.

As well as the health care providers being charged going to and from.

What a rat's nest.

[GoCubsGo]

[Vrede too]

"As an “originalist” does Clarence Thomas" think we should revisit:

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967), was a landmark civil rights decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that laws banning interracial marriage violate the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Beginning in 2013, it was cited as precedent in U.S. federal court decisions holding restrictions on same-sex marriage in the United States unconstitutional, including in the 2015 Supreme Court decision Obergefell v. Hodges....

[billy.pilgrim]

"As an “originalist” does Clarence Thomas" think we should revisit:

Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967), was a landmark civil rights decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that laws banning interracial marriage violate the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Beginning in 2013, it was cited as precedent in U.S. federal court decisions holding restrictions on same-sex marriage in the United States unconstitutional, including in the 2015 Supreme Court decision Obergefell v. Hodges....

There needs to be a test case.

[Vrede too]

There needs to be a test case.

Ginny is a nickname for Virginia, and they live in Virginia, hmmm.

Despite the Supreme Court's decision, anti-miscegenation laws remained on the books in several states, although the decision had made them unenforceable....