Artificial intelligence and the future

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O Really wrote:
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ChatGPT took their jobs. Now they walk dogs and fix air conditioners.

... In March, Goldman Sachs predicted that 18 percent of work worldwide could be automated by AI, with white-collar workers such as lawyers at more risk than those in trades such as construction or maintenance. "Occupations for which a significant share of workers' time is spent outdoors or performing physical labor cannot be automated by AI," the report said....
A former colleague and friend of my used to point out that there is no plagiarism in the practice of law. And a very large proportion of lawyers spend most of their time in repetitive work. Real Estate lawyers, wills and trust and probate, tax, bankruptcy...yada, all involve a lot of form-filling and process-following. Research is automated, form templates are generated with a click, court filings are electronically transmitted. There is, and may always be, some judgement and decision-making involved that may be AI-assisted but not taken over, but there will undoubtedly be fewer real lawyers needed.
The article continues, and agrees with you . . . so far.
... But Mollick said it's too early to gauge how disruptive AI will be to the workforce. He noted that jobs such as copywriting, document translation and transcription, and paralegal work are particularly at risk, since they have tasks that are easily done by chatbots. High-level legal analysis, creative writing or art may not be as easily replaceable, he said, because humans still outperform AI in those areas....
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I THINK nurses will be safe, but their independence of action may be diminished and their tasks may be relegated to rote obedience to computers even more than they are now. :(
Meet Grace, the healthcare robot COVID-19 created

... Dressed in a blue nurse's uniform, Grace has Asian features, collar-length brown hair and a thermal camera in her chest to take your temperature and measure your responsiveness. She uses artificial intelligence to diagnose a patient and can speak English, Mandarin and Cantonese....
:shock: I can't take your temperature with my chest or speak Mandarin and Cantonese . . . and I'm not cute. :(

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This was a really good documentary. Very depressing, too.

One frightening real world example: AI used to monitor call center employees in real time. Basically, AI can detect and analyze the employee's tone and forth and rate how they handled the calls. If an employee rating falls below a certain threshold: fired.

People being stripped of even more humanity.

I could see AI being used for job interviews to detect things like honesty and excitement, and the likelihood of obedience to the company. Ugh

Like they point out in the documentary, AI models are highly dependent on training data, and such data has the likelihood of being biased. Therefore the AI model is likely to be biased as well.

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This was a really good documentary. Very depressing, too.

One frightening real world example: AI used to monitor call center employees in real time. Basically, AI can detect and analyze the employee's tone and forth and rate how they handled the calls. If an employee rating falls below a certain threshold: fired.

People being stripped of even more humanity.

I could see AI being used for job interviews to detect things like honesty and excitement, and the likelihood of obedience to the company. Ugh

Like they point out in the documentary, AI models are highly dependent on training data, and such data has the likelihood of being biased. Therefore the AI model is likely to be biased as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZTutoSnXGc
1984 :puke-left: :thumbdown:

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Vrede too wrote:
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Whack9 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:38 pm
This was a really good documentary. Very depressing, too.

One frightening real world example: AI used to monitor call center employees in real time. Basically, AI can detect and analyze the employee's tone and forth and rate how they handled the calls. If an employee rating falls below a certain threshold: fired.

People being stripped of even more humanity.

I could see AI being used for job interviews to detect things like honesty and excitement, and the likelihood of obedience to the company. Ugh

Like they point out in the documentary, AI models are highly dependent on training data, and such data has the likelihood of being biased. Therefore the AI model is likely to be biased as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZTutoSnXGc
1984 :puke-left: :thumbdown:

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"employee's tone and so forth"

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... "forth"?
"employee's tone and so forth"

Can't type.
Ah, that didn't occur to me :oops: . Can't think. I wasn't griefing you, I was sincerely confused.
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Vrede too wrote:
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Whack9 wrote:
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... "forth"?
"employee's tone and so forth"

Can't type.
Ah, that didn't occur to me :oops: . Can't think. I wasn't griefing you, I was sincerely confused.
No worries I figured it just sounded confusing.
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AI working intentionally to try to kill off the lawyers?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... t%20filing.
Two apologetic lawyers responding to an angry judge in federal court Thursday blamed ChatGPT for tricking them into including fake legal research in a court filing.
Attorneys Steven A. Schwartz and Peter LoDuca are facing possible punishment over a filing in a lawsuit against an airline that included references to past court cases Schwartz thought were real but were actually invented by the artificial intelligence-powered chatbot.

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AI working intentionally to try to kill off the lawyers?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... s-case-law
Two apologetic lawyers responding to an angry judge in federal court Thursday blamed ChatGPT for tricking them into including fake legal research in a court filing.
Attorneys Steven A. Schwartz and Peter LoDuca are facing possible punishment over a filing in a lawsuit against an airline that included references to past court cases Schwartz thought were real but were actually invented by the artificial intelligence-powered chatbot.
... ChatGPT ... tends to hallucinate, talking about fictional things in a manner that sounds realistic but is not....
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There are many things that cause fear and/or anger and lots of reasons for prioritizing different ones. However, there are only a few existential threats - nuclear war, climate change, asteroid/rogue planet, maybe pandemic(s), Yellowstone supervolcano, and AI.

AI might be rather low on my action agenda b/c I'm not sure there's a way to stop whatever damage it's going to do.
People might get behind an existential threat to lawyers. :P
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How soon before we have AI politicians?

Let AI make policy decisions for us, can't be any worse than what humans do these days.

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FlyingHippo wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:21 am
How soon before we have AI politicians?

Let AI make policy decisions for us, can't be any worse than what humans do these days.
Look back on page 2 of this thread - I played with that very idea.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:36 am
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Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:21 am
How soon before we have AI politicians?

Let AI make policy decisions for us, can't be any worse than what humans do these days.
Look back on page 2 of this thread - I played with that very idea.
And somewhere or another you'll find me espousing that we'd do better by lotto.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:19 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:36 am
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Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:21 am
How soon before we have AI politicians?

Let AI make policy decisions for us, can't be any worse than what humans do these days.
Look back on page 2 of this thread - I played with that very idea.
And somewhere or another you'll find me espousing that we'd do better by lotto.
I may have missed that originally, but that's a really good idea. I don't know everybody who's won, but of the ones I've seen publicized, they're all better than anybody ihe Clown Car.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:44 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:19 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:36 am
FlyingHippo wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:21 am
How soon before we have AI politicians?

Let AI make policy decisions for us, can't be any worse than what humans do these days.
Look back on page 2 of this thread - I played with that very idea.
And somewhere or another you'll find me espousing that we'd do better by lotto.
I may have missed that originally, but that's a really good idea. I don't know everybody who's won, but of the ones I've seen publicized, they're all better than anybody ihe Clown Car.
I can't find it, guess I never posted it here. I've pushed it for quite a while as it was shrub inspired.
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FlyingHippo wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:21 am
How soon before we have AI politicians?

Let AI make policy decisions for us, can't be any worse than what humans do these days.
Are you AI?


I Asked AI What Europeans Think Americans From Every Single State Look Like, And The Results Are Just Plain Mean

1. Here's what Europeans think people from Alabama look like:
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:laughing-rolling:

5. California:
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7. Connecticut:
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Useless parents.

9. Florida:
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:P

13. Illinois:
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What kind of sandwich is that, GoCubsGo?

20. Maryland:
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Mmmm, crabs.

26. Montana:
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That's me, not AI.

30. New Jersey:
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Whack9's brother.

33. North Carolina:
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Tar Heel frat boy BBQ.

40. South Carolina:
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"State"?

42. Tennessee:
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That's neoplacebo, not AI.

Lots of other great ones at the link.
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Well, it wasn't very kind to billy.p in either of his states. But those pics would tend to explain the election results there.

"California Girl" lives down the street. "Montana Man" gets around. We've seen him in Montana and Wyoming, generally coming out of a bar. Sadly, and to my eternal embarrassment, "North Carolina guy" might have been me for about a year. :oops:

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In my head I assign posters a physical look. And like dj's on the radio when I was young they never looked like I imagined them. So if anyone wants post a picture of a celebrity that you look like, This is my current look.

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Sometime Lefty wrote:
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In my head I assign posters a physical look. And like dj's on the radio when I was young they never looked like I imagined them. So if anyone wants post a picture of a celebrity that you look like, This is my current look.

https://www.nme.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... -david.jpg
Can I borrow $10K?

#26 above, but like #20 I have crabs. :oops:
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Not really me, but close enough to recognize across the room.

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