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He's heartbroken.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:06 pm
He's heartbroken.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1724110891531055402
:roll: :crazy:

Retired federal judge Maryanne Trump Barry:
https://news.yahoo.com/maryanne-trump-b ... 48981.html
... “He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this,” Barry said while reacting to the now-former president’s U.S.-Mexico border policies that took children from their parents.

“I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit,” she said....
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Trump’s Idiot Lawyers Just Shared Faulty Evidence in Fraud Trial
Apparently, it can keep getting worse.


... New York Attorney General Letitia James has alleged that Trump lied about the size and value of his many real estate holdings. His lawyers’ evidence, shared to make Trump’s case, actually appears to undermine it.

Trump may want to consider getting new lawyers, as his team seems to continually blow up his defenses in his various legal disputes....
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:06 pm
He's heartbroken.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1724110891531055402
More heartbreak:

Donald Trump loses bid for mistrial in New York civil fraud case

:---P
A New York judge on Friday rejected Donald Trump's bid for a mistrial in state Attorney General Letitia James' civil fraud lawsuit against him, after the former U.S. president accused the judge and his law clerk of being politically biased.
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... James has accused Trump, his adult sons, his company, and other defendants of manipulating financial statements, asset values and Trump's net worth to defraud banks and insurers.

She is seeking $250 million in penalties, and wants Trump banned from New York state real estate business, among other remedies.
Block him and bleed him dry!
... The former president also faces four unrelated federal and state criminal indictments, including two over his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election....
Lock him up!

Otoh, it's looking less and less likely that a conviction is possible in MAGAt Loose Cannon's court:

Trump legal news brief: Judge Cannon rejects Jack Smith’s request for December deadlines in classified documents case

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Otoh, it's looking less and less likely that a conviction is possible in MAGAt Loose Cannon's court:

Trump legal news brief: Judge Cannon rejects Jack Smith’s request for December deadlines in classified documents case

:problem:
Afaik, Jack Smith hasn't made any glaring mistakes.....but not filing to have her removed may be a big one. Apparently judge's have a lot of latitude. I don't even know if there's actual grounds on the current case but an argument probably should have been made on her history.
Wonder how long the process would take and a new judge would need to get up to speed.
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It says a lot about Loose Cannon's bias if Trump's not bashing her.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:22 am
Vrede too wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:11 am


Otoh, it's looking less and less likely that a conviction is possible in MAGAt Loose Cannon's court:

Trump legal news brief: Judge Cannon rejects Jack Smith’s request for December deadlines in classified documents case

:problem:
Afaik, Jack Smith hasn't made any glaring mistakes.....but not filing to have her removed may be a big one. Apparently judge's have a lot of latitude. I don't even know if there's actual grounds on the current case but an argument probably should have been made on her history.
Wonder how long the process would take and a new judge would need to get up to speed.
Based on her history with trump and her lack of history as a judge, Smith should have tried to have her removed from day one.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:16 pm
Based on her history with trump and her lack of history as a judge, Smith should have tried to have her removed from day one.
It's a MAGAt/con Appeals Court :problem: They were willing to fish slap her last year over the whole special master :bs: , but removing a judge is far more extreme.

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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:26 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:16 pm
Based on her history with trump and her lack of history as a judge, Smith should have tried to have her removed from day one.
It's a MAGAt/con Appeals Court :problem: They were willing to fish slap her last year over the whole special master :bs: , but removing a judge is far more extreme.
Even when she’s an overly bias slam dunk for the defense?
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:39 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:26 pm
It's a MAGAt/con Appeals Court :problem: They were willing to fish slap her last year over the whole special master :bs: , but removing a judge is far more extreme.
Even when she’s an overly bias slam dunk for the defense?
O Really knows better than me, but my impression is that it's difficult anytime, more so with a MAGAt/con Appeals Court. Plus, I think it's just been her finger on the scale so far rather than overt and obvious prejudice justifying intervention. I wish we had a better Appeals Court, but TRE45ON screwed that up for Florida and the nation. I wonder if Jack could have somehow gotten this heard in the DC federal courts from the start -0-? The original crime occurred there.

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What matters isn't whether the judge is biased, but whether or not s/he acts on that bias. I'd say Loose Cannon is pushing, but not yet over, the line.

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O Really wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:13 pm
What matters isn't whether the judge is biased, but whether or not s/he acts on that bias. I'd say Loose Cannon is pushing, but not yet over, the line.
Some people feel that MAGAt Loose Cannon left "the line" in the dust long ago.
"In the bag for Trump": Expert says Judge Cannon's new order leaves other trials "in limbo"

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, the Trump appointee overseeing the former president's Mar-a-Lago classified documents case in South Florida, last week pushed back a conference to meet with prosecutors until February and also denied a request from special counsel Jack Smith, a "one-two punch" that The Daily Beast's Jose Pagliery warned has "created chaos that can spill over into his other legal battles ahead of the 2024 election."

“Not scheduling a CIPA section 5 hearing, which is routine, is a clear sign she is just as much in the bag for Trump as when she issued her horrendous pretrial rulings (both reversed in scathing language by the conservative 11th Circuit),” tweeted former Mueller prosecutor Andrew Weissmann. “What a piece of work is she.”
"piece of" something.
Pagliery compared Cannon's keeping of the currently scheduled May 2024 trial date in Florida to "booking a restaurant reservation one doesn't intend to keep," quoting former CIA lawyer Brian Greer, who said that the judge's choice effectively throws the judges presiding over the ex-president's cases in Washington, D.C., Atlanta, and New York "in limbo."

"Another judge could schedule something for May but may not want to, because it’s possible trial will still go in May. If you’re a cynic—and I’m not—you might say she deliberately did this," said Greer.

"So while these three other judges figure out how to keep their cases chugging along toward trial, they’re competing with a nebulous case in South Florida—one that could claim a huge block of time to figure out unprecedented constitutional issues," Pagliery wrote. "That’s especially true because the case is being overseen by a judge with less experience presiding over trials than the average municipal traffic court administrator," underscoring how a New York Times analysis determined that only four of the 224 criminal cases assigned to Cannon since assuming her position in 2020 had gone to trial. The four cases amounted to a mere 14 total days of trial.

Some legal experts chalked up Cannon's latest antics to more than a mere lack of experience.

“She is a full fledged member of the Trump defense team," tweeted Norman J. Ornstein, a senior fellow emeritus at the American Enterprise Institute. "Aileen Cannon is utterly unfit for the bench. Someone should introduce an impeachment resolution against her. It will go nowhere but will highlight her outrageous conduct." ...
Lock her up!

DC election interference criminal case, TRE45QN's crap attorneys strike again:

Trump should be allowed to pressure witnesses in his election interference case depending on 'the context,' his lawyer tells judges

Anything the mob boss wants to do is peachy. :roll:

GOAppeals CourtGO, fish slap them silly.

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I wonder why Smith doesn’t complain
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:22 pm
I wonder why Smith doesn’t complain
-0-? O Really and Ornstein may be correct that Loose Cannon's MAGAt bias can be inferred but not proven, especially to a MAGAt/con Appeals Court. The other option is impeachment, but that would be DOA in SINO Johnson the johnson's House. Then, any unsuccessful whining is likely to increase Loose Cannon's MAGAt bias :problem: , just as the moronic ex-PINO lawyers are likely making things worse for their client in the NY fraud trial.

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Speaking of the moronic ex-PINO lawyers,
... The witness was Jeffrey McConney, who was the comptroller and spreadsheet czar at the Trump Org. McConney had been called to the witness stand by the defense, but on cross-examination by lawyers for the state attorney general's office Tuesday, he linked Trump firmly to the conspiracy and fraud counts that have yet to be decided in the non-jury trial.

McConney was handed People's Exhibit 3054, a draft of Trump's net-worth statement for 2014. He was asked to look at a note scribbled in thin blue ink on the draft's first page, "DJT TO GET FINAL REVIEW," which he said he'd written.
Opps, what a great defense witness!
Trump has denied involvement in preparing a decade's worth of these annual net-worth statements, which New York's attorney general, Letitia James, has alleged — and the trial judge has agreed — were each year riddled with billions of dollars of exaggerations.

The AG has alleged the net-worth statement that McConney was handed the draft for, from 2014, contained $3.5 billion in exaggerations.
Busted!
... Amer asked next whether Trump would get the final review of every net-worth statement until leaving for the White House in 2017, after which Eric Trump would approve the drafts.

"That was my understanding, yes," McConney answered again....
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McConney's testimony was significant for several reasons — not just the damage it did to Trump, but the damage it did to Trump's two eldest sons; to the Trump Org's former chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg; and to McConney himself.

The three Trumps and the two ex-executives are all defendants in the AG's lawsuit, which alleges that Trump used net-worth exaggerations to win hundreds of millions of dollars in interest-rate discounts and property-sale profits. James is seeking at least $250 million in penalties and to bar the five defendants from ever running a New York business again.

Starting with the damage to McConney himself, his blue-ink notations directly contradict his testimony from the prior day.

The spreadsheet czar had testified on direct examination Monday that he would review each year's draft net-worth statement with Weisselberg, who would then give the approved draft to the outside accounting firm, Mazars USA, which would print the final statement.

This chain of command — McConney to Weisselberg to Mazars — leaves out one very important link, as the state's lawyer, Amer, pointed out on cross on Tuesday.

"I believe there was a step in between that involved Donald Trump prior to 2017?" Amer said to McConney, who appeared uncomfortable on the stand as he said Trump indeed did the ultimate signing off.
Lock him up for perjury!
Trump, who has not attended the trial for the past two weeks, had said on the witness stand on November 6 that he had little involvement in the drafting of these net-worth statements. In a pretrial deposition, he denied knowing who had written "DJT to get final review" on that 2014 draft....
So, the defense lawyer knew that the prosecutors were going to nail Dolt .45 with this doc, yet they called McConney to the stand anyhow. Idiots.

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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:04 am
Speaking of the moronic ex-PINO lawyers,
...
So, the defense lawyer knew that the prosecutors were going to nail Dolt .45 with this doc, yet they called McConney to the stand anyhow. Idiots.
Knowing the bad facts are out there, they probably thought they'd be better off to get first crack at McConney instead of not calling him and letting the prosecution use him even more. Given previous testimony and the pretty much indisputable evidence of Trump involvement, there wasn't a real good approach for them. But they're still moronic idiots, just for representing Trump even if for nothing else.

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O Really wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:37 am
Vrede too wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:04 am
Speaking of the moronic ex-PINO lawyers,
...
So, the defense lawyer knew that the prosecutors were going to nail Dolt .45 with this doc, yet they called McConney to the stand anyhow. Idiots.
Knowing the bad facts are out there, they probably thought they'd be better off to get first crack at McConney instead of not calling him and letting the prosecution use him even more. Given previous testimony and the pretty much indisputable evidence of Trump involvement, there wasn't a real good approach for them. But they're still moronic idiots, just for representing Trump even if for nothing else.
The prosecution has already rested. The only way McConney gets up there and gets caught perjuring himself while further proving Dolt .45's direct involvement in the fraud is if the defense calls him.

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The prosecution has already rested. The only way McConney gets up there and gets caught perjuring himself while further proving Dolt .45's direct involvement in the fraud is if the defense calls him.
You're right. They're idiots. I was thinking of why the defense would have not wanted McConney to be grabbed first by the prosecution. But yeah, after prosecution rested they were home free with that document if they hadn't called him. I shoulda paid more attention before posting.

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