College football

[Vrede too]

Somebody, and it might have been me, said:

Not everybody is going to like a braggart like Neon Deion, but he is what he is, and has been since getting to FSU. Difference though in a "sham" like the article painted is that he has delivered on his boasts everywhere he's been.

Somebody might like to reconsider.

"Somebody" may yet be correct. Still Deion's first year. I'll give him the 2 or 3 years I think every coach deserves, even if his mouth is outrunning his team so far. In 2020 (Covid), his first year at Jackson State, he was 4–3, 3–2.

9:00 PM ESPN2
South Florida > @UTSA (-15.5). A loss won't count in my tally.
Good thing, 21-49

10:30 PM FS1
Colorado (4-6) > @Washington State (4-6, -4.0)
I like CO and I applaud WSU's loyalty. This game will end one team's Bowl hopes . CO is likely to lose next week @22 Utah. However, WSU is certain to lose @5 WA. So, go Buffaloes.
Not looking good halfway through the 3rd, 7-42. Ohhh, Deion Probably neither team gets a Bowl

14-56, humiliating

EDIT: Task #1 is beef up the O-line.

Colorado QB Sanders forced off with apparent injury vs. WSU

Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders exited in the second quarter of the Buffaloes' 56-14 loss to Washington State after suffering an apparent arm or wrist injury.

Sanders was initially hurt on the Buffaloes' second series of the game on a play where he was sacked and fumbled before Brennan Jackson returned it 40 yards for a WSU touchdown. The injury sidelined him for the next series, but he returned for the following one -- a three-play touchdown drive, capped by a 45-yard strike to Travis Hunter.

Sanders played two more series but was slow to get up after getting sacked on third down and was replaced again by backup Ryan Staub. He did not return to the game....

Shedeur Sanders came into the game as the most sacked quarterback in the country (48), and the combination of a porous offensive line and his tendency to hang on to the ball were problematic again. He was sacked four times in the first quarter and Staub was sacked once after coming in....

0-1 this week.

[Vrede too]

FCS GO:

12:00 PM

ESPN+
@Wofford > 2 Furman

ESPN+/SECN+
16 Chattanooga Mocs (once Moccasins) > @FBS 8 Alabama (no line )
A loss won't count in my tally, but GoMocsGo, stem that Tide!

ESPN+
18 Western Carolina > @VMI

1:00 PM No TV?
15 Villanova > @6 Delaware

2:00 PM

ESPN+
@3 Montana > 4 Montana State in Missoula. Big Sky Battle, winner wins the Conference. GRIZ!

ESPN+
@Western Illinois > 5 South Dakota

No TV?
@14 North Carolina Central > Delaware State

3:00 PM ESPN+
Missouri State > @1 South Dakota State

7-13 and 17 are LOSERS

It just gets worse for 3 Michigan and Harbaugh:

Sources: New NCAA evidence changed Michigan's stance on investigation

Too many crushing details for me to excerpt.

Be a good Catholic, misogynist Jim, confess!

No Big Ten Championship
No Playoffs
No Bowls
THIS SEASON!

[O Really]

Mountains and molehills
Save the major penalties for the mountains

[Vrede too]

Mountains and molehills
Save the major penalties for the mountains

We disagree.
This was a well-funded multi-year, multi-person, multi-campus conspiracy to cheat and then cover it up.
One coach has already been fired and ringleader Stalions certainly will be, too. More to come?
The cheating could not have been effective without Harbaugh and others knowing that it was going on.
Even Michigan is so abashed that it has given up on opposing the investigation and punishment.
Plus, Jim Harbaugh is a dick.
Mountains!

[O Really]

Agreed, Jim Harbaugh is a dick.
Considering that other teams also stole Michigan's signals, how much difference do you suppose it really made, if any.

[Vrede too]

Agreed, Jim Harbaugh is a dick.
Considering that other teams also stole Michigan's signals, how much difference do you suppose it really made, if any.

In-game sign stealing happens, there's no way to prevent it. Are you saying that other schools had a national operation to steal Michigan's signals before their games were played?

"difference" is impossible to assess, but Michigan is 10-0 and 1st in the Big Ten-East. Instead, punishment should be based on the fact of the cheating and the resources put into it rather than the more nebulous impact.

[O Really]

Agreed, Jim Harbaugh is a dick.
Considering that other teams also stole Michigan's signals, how much difference do you suppose it really made, if any.

In-game sign stealing happens, there's no way to prevent it. Are you saying that other schools had a national operation to steal Michigan's signals before their games were played?

"difference" is impossible to assess, but Michigan is 10-0 and 1st in the Big Ten-East. Instead, punishment should be based on the fact of the cheating and the resources put into it rather than the more nebulous impact.

"Michigan has submitted evidence to the Big Ten alleging that Ohio State, Rutgers and Purdue shared information about the Wolverines' signals ahead of the Big Ten Championship Game in 2022, according to ESPN"

Maybe theirs wasn't a "national operation" - maybe it didn't happen. I don't know. But I'll bet if you give Michigan everybody else's signals upfront, but make them play with SDSU '23 roster they're not gonna be 10-0.

[O Really]

Mountains!

Would it be mountains if it was Southwest Iowa State?
Would anybody have cared if it was the A's stealing signals instead of Astros?
Would anybody care if somebody let a little air out of Zach Wilson's balls?

[Vrede too]

Would it be mountains if it was Southwest Iowa State?
Would anybody have cared if it was the A's stealing signals instead of Astros?
Would anybody care if somebody let a little air out of Zach Wilson's balls?

Fine, if we KNOW that massive cheating has been ineffective people will care a little less and there's no reason to discuss postseason penalties. What's your point? It is Michigan, the Astros and Brady that were caught.

[O Really]

Would it be mountains if it was Southwest Iowa State?
Would anybody have cared if it was the A's stealing signals instead of Astros?
Would anybody care if somebody let a little air out of Zach Wilson's balls?

Fine, if we KNOW that massive cheating has been ineffective people will care a little less and there's no reason to discuss postseason penalties. What's your point? It is Michigan, the Astros and Brady that were caught.

I suppose my point is that we don't know if Zach Wilson uses soft balls because nobody cares what he does. And probably if the A's got caught, people would just laugh and add that to their list of incompetencies. People don't really care about some fine-print rule technicality. They care about bringing down the big dogs.

[Vrede too]

FCS GO:
Edit: Spreads added late because ESPN posts them late.

12:00 PM

ESPN+
@Wofford (1-9) > 2 Furman (9-1, -20)
A loss won't count in my tally.
19-13 Wofford. WOW! A Montana team will move up, maybe even both of them.

ESPN+/SECN+
16 Chattanooga Mocs (once Moccasins) > @FBS 8 Alabama (no line -44.5)
A loss won't count in my tally, but GoMocsGo, stem that Tide!
10-66

ESPN+
18 Western Carolina (-16.5) > @VMI. A win won't count in my tally.
Comeback came up short, 24-27 WCU may even miss the playoffs.

1:00 PM No TV?
15 Villanova > @6 Delaware (-1.5). 35-7, another Top 10 upset!

2:00 PM

ESPN+
@3 Montana > 4 Montana State (-6.5 as if) in Missoula.
Big Sky Battle, winner wins the Conference. GRIZ! Montana up 20-0 at the half. Pooor Kitties, Pooor Kitties! 37-7 final.


ESPN+
@Western Illinois > 5 South Dakota (no line?)
A loss won't count in my tally. 6-48

No TV?
@14 North Carolina Central (-25.0) > Delaware State
A win won't count in my tally. 55-14

3:00 PM ESPN+
Missouri State > @1 South Dakota State (no line?)
A loss won't count in my tally. 17-35.

FCS 3-1 today.

7-13 and 17 are LOSERS
These games not looked at yet.
Other losers: 10, 13, 16. I'll count these as wins for me, 6-1 FCS today

3 Montana will move to 2.
4 Montana St will drop a little.
14 North Carolina Central may move up a couple of slots.
18 Western Carolina may fall out of the rankings

[Vrede too]

I suppose my point is that we don't know if Zach Wilson uses soft balls because nobody cares what he does. And probably if the A's got caught, people would just laugh and add that to their list of incompetencies. People don't really care about some fine-print rule technicality. They care about bringing down the big dogs.

So? THIS big dog is a dick Take Jim down!

If they ever go after John Harbaugh or Steve Kerr for cheating maybe I'll defend their "fine-print rule technicality."

[Vrede too]

Saturday, November 18, 2023

3:30 PM BIG12|ESPN+
Baylor vs @TCU (-13.0)
Go football, it's a good day when RW TX god loses.
17-42 TCU, good to see one of them humiliated

GO:

12:00 PM FOX
Bowl eligible @Maryland > 3 Michigan (-19.5 )
A loss won't count in my tally. 24-31, unranked Terps gave them a scare. If the Huskies win big should they bump MI out of Playoff position?

ESPN+/SECN+
FCS Chattanooga Mocs (once Moccasins) > @8 Alabama (no line )
A loss won't count in my tally, but GoMocsGo, stem that Tide!
10-66

ABC
10 Louisville > @Miami (-1.0 )
Nothing against the Bowl eligible 'Canes, O Really, but I'd like the Cardinals great season to continue. Sorry.
15-3 4th = 38-31! Sorry.

FS1
Bowl eligible Rutgers > @12 Penn State (-20.5)
A loss won't count in my tally. 6-27 Vegas nailed it.

SECN
UL Monroe (2-8, 7th in Sun Belt-West) > @13 Ole Miss (-37.5 )
Again, a loss won't count in my tally. 3-35

BTN
@Northwestern (5-5) > Purdue (3-7, -3.0)
GoPussiesGo, get a Bowl and make it 6 straight with the new coach.
23-15 Will GoCubsGo forgive the hazing Pussies for a Bowl?

ESPNN(?)/ESPN+
East Carolina > @Navy (-3.0). Torpedo them! 0-10

ESPN2
@Memphis > SMU (-9.0). NoTX godNo. 34-38, awww.

1:00 PM ESPN+
Massachusetts (3-7) > Liberty (10-0, -27.5)
End the streak, NoRW godNo! A loss won't count in my tally.
25-49

2:00 PM ESPN+
@Charlotte > Rice (-2.5). 6-28

ESPN+
Bowl eligible Appalachian State (6-4) > @Bowl ineligible, AP 18 James Madison (10-0, -10.0)
26-23 in OT1, perfect season spoiled.

No TV?
Hawai'i > @Wyoming (-13.0). 9-42

2:30 PM PAC12
@17 Arizona (-1.0) > 22 Utah. Knock it out of the Rankings!
42-18! Bye-bye Top 25

3:00 PM

CW NETWORK
Bowl eligible Duke (-3.5) > @Virginia. GoBlue DevilsGo! 27-30

ESPN+
Temple > UAB (-7.5). 24-34

3:30 PM

CBS
@18 Tennessee > 1 Georgia (-10.0). Could happen, GoVolsGo! 10-38

ESPN
20 North Carolina > Clemson (-7.5). Shame those Pussies! 20-31

ABC
Bowl eligible UCLA > USC (-6.0). 38-20, Bruins win LA Bowl!

ACCN
NC State > @Virginia Tech (-2.5). 35-28

CBSSN
UNLV > @Air Force (-3.0). 17-0 4th, 31-27 Final

4:00 PM

BTN
Minnesota (5-5) > @2 Ohio State (10-0, -27.5 )
Get a Bowl! A loss won't count in my tally. 3-37

FOX
6 Oregon (-24.5) > @Arizona State
GoDucksGo, a win won't count in my tally. 49-13

5:00 PM FS2
UCF (5-5) > @Texas Tech (5-5, -2.5). Get that Bowl, Mickey.
32 yd FG MISSED at end or 3rd, MISSED PAT with 5:30 left, 23-24 The wrong team gets a Bowl.

6:30 PM

CW NETWORK
FCS North Alabama > @4 Florida State (no line)
A loss won't count in my tally. UNA leading 13-3 in the 2nd, I BELIEVE!
13-58, I don't believe.

PAC12
Bowl hopeful California (4-6, -7.0) > @Stanford (3-7). 27-15
Will have to beat UCLA to get a Bowl.

7:30 PM

ABC
5 Washington (10-0) > @Loyal 11 Oregon State (8-2, -1.0)
Sorry, Beavers. 22-20, phew, Washington is in the Pac-12 Championship game and is one step closer to the Playoffs.

ESPNU
Bowl hopeful Florida International > @Arkansas (-29.5)
Panthers slay Swine. A loss won't count in my tally. 20-44

NBC
@Wisconsin (5-5, -6.0) > Nebraska (5-5). Get that Bowl, Badgers!
Neb 30 yd FG GOOD with 0:04 left , 17-17 OT. 24-17 in OT1, Bowl baby!

Also:
Gators make a 35 yd FG GOOD with 1:36 - 4th to take the 31-30 lead over 9 Missouri (-12.5) I did not pick a fav, but WOW! MO drives, 30 yd FG GOOD, 31-33.

10:30 PM CBSSN
Bowl ineligible San Diego State (3-7) > @San José State (5-5, -14.5)
Go O Really Go! A loss won't count in my tally.

Washington court puts temporary pause on control of Pac-12

The Washington State Supreme Court issued a temporary stay of Tuesday's preliminary injunction that was set to grant control of the Pac-12 board of directors to Oregon State and Washington State on Monday.

The court's ruling came a day after the University of Washington, working on behalf of the ten schools set to depart the Pac-12 at the end of the academic year, filed an emergency motion to stay Tuesday's ruling and extend a temporary restraining order that had been in place since September. That TRO prevents any board action without unanimous consent of the 12 current members....

Boo-hiss.

[billy.pilgrim]

May I be the first of thousands and thousands to say, Fuck you Hugh

[Vrede too]

May I be the first to say, Fuck you Hugh

Ahem, I was saying that before he left RW xtian Liberty. Who knew that New Mexico State has a football team? Bet it hurts even more that WDE was favored by 25.5. 31-10 Final, ouch. Good thing you've already locked up a Bowl.

[billy.pilgrim]

May I be the first to say, Fuck you Hugh

Ahem, I was saying that before he left RW xtian Liberty. Who knew that New Mexico State has a football team? Bet it hurts even more that WDE was favored by 25.5. 31-10 Final, ouch. Good thing you've already locked up a Bowl.

Don’t tell Sabin.
It was all a ploy to get the banners to drop their guard.

[O Really]

Huskies were the only brightish light in an otherwise dark day for teams I care about as well as those I ride along with. Hopefully tomorrow will be better as Iggles are safe at least until Monday.

[Vrede too]

Huskies were the only brightish light in an otherwise dark day for teams I care about as well as those I ride along with. Hopefully tomorrow will be better as Iggles are safe at least until Monday.

Hah, I composed before I saw your post. See the end of my post below:

Saturday, November 18, 2023

3:30 PM BIG12|ESPN+
Baylor vs @TCU (-13.0)
Go football, it's a good day when RW TX god loses.
17-42 TCU, good to see one of them humiliated

GO:

12:00 PM FOX
Bowl eligible @Maryland > 3 Michigan (-19.5 )
A loss won't count in my tally. 24-31, unranked Terps gave them a scare. If the Huskies win big should they bump MI out of Playoff position?

ESPN+/SECN+
FCS Chattanooga Mocs (once Moccasins) > @8 Alabama (no line )
A loss won't count in my tally, but GoMocsGo, stem that Tide!
10-66

ABC
10 Louisville > @Miami (-1.0 )
Nothing against the Bowl eligible 'Canes, O Really, but I'd like the Cardinals great season to continue. Sorry.
15-3 4th = 38-31! Sorry.

FS1
Bowl eligible Rutgers > @12 Penn State (-20.5)
A loss won't count in my tally. 6-27 Vegas nailed it.

SECN
UL Monroe (2-8, 7th in Sun Belt-West) > @13 Ole Miss (-37.5 )
Again, a loss won't count in my tally. 3-35

BTN
@Northwestern (5-5) > Purdue (3-7, -3.0)
GoPussiesGo, get a Bowl and make it 6 straight with the new coach.
23-15 Will GoCubsGo forgive the hazing Pussies for a Bowl?

ESPNN(?)/ESPN+
East Carolina > @Navy (-3.0). Torpedo them! 0-10

ESPN2
@Memphis > SMU (-9.0). NoTX godNo. 34-38, awww.

1:00 PM ESPN+
Massachusetts (3-7) > Liberty (10-0, -27.5)
End the streak, NoRW godNo! A loss won't count in my tally.
25-49

2:00 PM ESPN+
@Charlotte > Rice (-2.5). 6-28

ESPN+
Bowl eligible Appalachian State (6-4) > @Bowl ineligible, AP 18 James Madison (10-0, -10.0)
26-23 in OT1, perfect season spoiled.

No TV?
Hawai'i > @Wyoming (-13.0). 9-42

2:30 PM PAC12
@17 Arizona (-1.0) > 22 Utah. Knock it out of the Rankings!
42-18! Bye-bye Top 25

3:00 PM

CW NETWORK
Bowl eligible Duke (-3.5) > @Virginia. GoBlue DevilsGo!
27-30

ESPN+
Temple > UAB (-7.5). 24-34

3:30 PM

CBS
@18 Tennessee > 1 Georgia (-10.0). Could happen, GoVolsGo! 10-38

ESPN
20 North Carolina > Clemson (-7.5). Shame those Pussies! 20-31

ABC
Bowl eligible UCLA > USC (-6.0). 38-20, Bruins win LA Bowl!

ACCN
NC State > @Virginia Tech (-2.5). 35-28

CBSSN
UNLV > @Air Force (-3.0). 17-0 4th, 31-27 Final

4:00 PM

BTN
Minnesota (5-5) > @2 Ohio State (10-0, -27.5 )
Get a Bowl! A loss won't count in my tally. 3-37

FOX
6 Oregon (-24.5) > @Arizona State
GoDucksGo, a win won't count in my tally. 49-13

5:00 PM FS2
UCF (5-5) > @Texas Tech (5-5, -2.5). Get that Bowl, Mickey.
32 yd FG MISSED at end of 3rd, MISSED PAT with 5:30 left, 23-24 The wrong team gets a Bowl.

6:30 PM

CW NETWORK
FCS North Alabama > @4 Florida State (no line)
A loss won't count in my tally.
UNA leading 13-3 in the 2nd, I BELIEVE!
13-58, I don't believe.

PAC12
Bowl hopeful California (4-6, -7.0) > @Stanford (3-7). 27-15
Will have to beat UCLA to get a Bowl.

7:30 PM

ABC
5 Washington (10-0) > @Loyal 11 Oregon State (8-2, -1.0)
Sorry, Beavers. 22-20, phew, Washington is in the Pac-12 Championship game and is one step closer to the Playoffs.

ESPNU
Bowl hopeful Florida International > @Arkansas (-29.5)
Panthers slay Swine. A loss won't count in my tally. 20-44

NBC
@Wisconsin (5-5, -6.0) > Nebraska (5-5). Get that Bowl, Badgers!
Neb 30 yd FG GOOD with 0:04 left , 17-17 OT. 24-17 in OT1, Bowl baby!

Also:
Gators make a 35 yd FG GOOD with 1:36 - 4th to take the 31-30 lead over 9 Missouri (-12.5) I did not pick a fav, but WOW! MO drives, 30 yd FG GOOD, 31-33.

10:30 PM CBSSN
Bowl ineligible San Diego State (3-7) > @San José State (5-5, -14.5)
Go O Really Go! A loss won't count in my tally.
13-24. O Really, you really suck not counting the Huskies, barely, who mostly belong to Lady O

LOSERS:
11, to 5 barely, may not drop far
18, to 1, may not drop at all
20, UNC will be unranked again
22, to 17, Utah will be unranked
25, to 21, KS will be unranked
https://www.espn.com/college-football/r ... asontype/2

Me:
10-9 FBS
6-1 FCS
0-1 Friday
16-11 this week, I'll take it.

[O Really]

Huskies were the only brightish light in an otherwise dark day for teams I care about as well as those I ride along with. Hopefully tomorrow will be better as Iggles are safe at least until Monday.

Hah, I composed before I saw your post. See the end of my post below:

Saturday, November 18, 2023


13-24. O Really, you really suck not counting the Huskies, barely, who mostly belong to Lady O

Lady O is a U-Dub alum, but she definitely doesn't have billy.p level loyalty.

[billy.pilgrim]

Always funny when it happens to a bammer

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/38927742

Longest WH td in 20 years

opps