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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:47 pm
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Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:03 pm
It's a bit mind blowing that Democrats actually lose elections.

https://twitter.com/MarkHamill/status/1 ... 2570953132
And then you remember people like rwb, Archie, that rabbit, pee, and the tea people interviews and …
Who is the Chicken Little RepuQ weirdo doing the bad Yoda impression?

Not sure if anyone else has done this calculation - If Manchin runs he, Biden (81 today) and Dolt .45 are collectively older than the Constitution of the United States.
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Mitt Romney Names The 2 Republican Presidential Candidates He Won't Vote For

1. TRE45QN, of course :clap:
Guess #2.
Spoiler:
"... Maybe not Vivek [Ramaswamy],
Low hanging fruit, Vivek is DOA.
"... but the others that are running would be acceptable to me and I’d be happy to vote for them.”
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Romney, who was the GOP presidential candidate in 2012, indicated he’d be willing to cross party lines in certain cases.

“I’d be happy to vote for a number of the Democrats too,” he added without naming them. “I mean, it would be an upgrade from, in my opinion, from Donald Trump and perhaps also from Joe Biden.”

... Romney didn’t vote for Donald Trump in 2016 or 2020, saying he wrote in his wife, Ann Romney, in 2016. He said earlier this month he’d likely vote for her again if 2024 is a rematch of 2020....
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Joanne Carducci:
F*** off, Kyle. The grown ups are talking.
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So much for a grown up telling a 20 year old to f*** off but I guess that's the left for you
Kyle admitting that he's not "a grown up"? Opps.

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Curious, if you're not a big enough boy for a bad word, how are you big enough to carry a great, big, 'manly' weapon? And while it is pretty hilarious watching you try to fit your entire vocabulary into one sentence, you've long since grown tedious, so listen up little boy, cuz I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain this to you twice—stop using my account to get engagement. It's not going to sell whatever hot trash it is you're peddling.

Ask mommy to take you to Walmart and you can set up a little table outside like the Girl Scouts do when they're selling their cookies. Just start crying on cue. You're good at that s***, right?

Now, run along little one. Your overpriced kitty litter liners ain't gonna sell themselves.
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Kyle Rittenhouse is the reason God created the middle finger.
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WTF?

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Y'all aren't the only ones who have noticed:
Former Trump White House official "stunned" at his visible "decline" in Iowa speech
"He is slowing down," said White House official Alyssa Farrah Griffin


... "It's kind of remarkable, I've been watching the clips from Trump's visit to Iowa and I'm stunned having spent a lot of time with him in 2020 and years before—he is slowing down," (Alyssa) Farah Griffin, the former White House director for strategic communications, told CNN. "There's a lack of sharpness in what he's saying and a lack of kind of clarity," she added. "There's another clip where he basically says he's going to overturn Obamacare, but also says that he'll fix it, just complete inconsistencies and for Republicans our strongest case against Joe Biden is the age and the decline that some of us have seen. And if I'm being honest, head-to-head, I'm not sure which is struggling more."
MAGAts have been unfazed by TRE45QN's authoritarianism, lying and incessant whining. Will they also tolerate his debilitation given their claims about Joltin' Joe's alleged decline?
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MAGAts have been unfazed by TRE45QN's authoritarianism, lying and incessant whining. Will they also tolerate his debilitation given their claims about Joltin' Joe's alleged decline?
First off, they'll be in denial, secondly they will absolutely tolerate it because of first off.
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Vrede too wrote:
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MAGAts have been unfazed by TRE45QN's authoritarianism, lying and incessant whining. Will they also tolerate his debilitation given their claims about Joltin' Joe's alleged decline?
First off, they'll be in denial, secondly they will absolutely tolerate it because of first off.
:thumbup: So much of the White House staff ex-PINO hired turned out to be agents of the Deep State.
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Vrede too wrote:
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It's going to remain a bit of a mystery how any Republican would actually govern in the crazed trump primary world.

They'll say anything.
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5 year limit on civil service jobs. In what fantasy does that work?
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5 year limit on civil service jobs. In what fantasy does that work?
Wingnut batshit crazy world.

They'll say anything.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:31 am
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Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:04 am
5 year limit on civil service jobs. In what fantasy does that work?
Wingnut batshit crazy world.

They'll say anything.
This might have been worth watching live:

Vivek Ramaswamy Pulls Out His Tin-Foil Hat in Unhinged Debate Attention Grab

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Christie eviscerated him.
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Christie eviscerated him.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1732574571776069736
:lol: Nikki's knight.

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Christie eviscerated him.
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1732574571776069736
Christie eviscerated TRE45QN, Fascist DerSantis and Nikki Heat, too.
Opinion: The finest speech ever given in a presidential debate
Opinion by Todd Graham

Editor’s Note: Todd Graham is a professor of debate at Southern Illinois University. His teams have won five national championships; he’s been named the national debate coach of the year three times and been presented with the lifetime achievement award in academia and debate....

... If you were lucky enough to watch, you were treated to the finest speech ever given in a presidential debate. Let’s get right to it — here’s how the four candidates scored:

Chris Christie: A+

Since all great speeches should have a title, I’m naming it “Chris Christie’s Retribution Speech.”

To make a memorable argument in a debate, you need at least three things. First, the issue being debated has to be salient. Second, you need to lock down your position with good examples and evidence. Finally, your delivery is crucial. But even that’s not enough. For an argument to stand out in a debate, it must contain all three of those elements — and it must be a position not yet heard by the debating audience.

The “Chris Christie Retribution Speech” met all the criteria....

TikTok clip
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... Christie might have just given the single most important speech in presidential debating history. It was certainly the finest.
I'm not qualified to agree or disagree and importance is defined by effect, but it sure is fire!
... Christie continually chastised Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and others for not answering the question, astutely channelling the audience’s frustration with politicians’ question dodging.

Finally, when talking about the sensitive topic of transgender care, while others like Ramaswamy and DeSantis were vilifying transgender kids and their parents, Christie reminded the audience of the sheer hypocrisy. “Republicans believe in less government, not more…yet we want to take parental rights away,” he said.

And while Christie said he does not personally favor gender-affirming care, he’d rather have parents decide with their children rather than the “jokers” in congress overriding parent’s decisions.
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Nikki Haley: A

... How she handled the tag-teaming from DeSantis and Ramaswamy was impressive. Most people would have lost their temper (Christie was on the edge) and let it affect their debating. Instead, Haley went the opposite direction and played it cool and calm. It was the perfect attitude adjustment.

Even after being called a fascist by Ramaswamy, Haley simply smiled and said, “I love all the attention fellas. Thank you for that.” And then again after Ramaswamy’s flailing stream of consciousness insults, a debate moderator asked Haley if she’d like to respond. She replied with a bit of a smile. “No. It’s not worth my time to respond to him.” BAM.

Ron DeSantis: C

Some things never change. Florida’s governor simply can’t fix his nonverbal communication, especially his tortured facial expressions. It’s baffling and now I couldn’t stop staring.

On foreign policy, DeSantis’s strengths were talking about the approach Florida took to China, but he missed badly when explaining the legality of his previous rhetoric about killing fentanyl smugglers, vigilante-style.

DeSantis began this answer, as he did several times in the debate, by telling a story. The problem is that his stories are forced and poorly timed. Answer the question first, and then, if you must, tell a story. But I prefer my presidential debates to be story-free. They just don’t work in debates like they do on the stump.

Finally, DeSantis has no transitions in his debating style. He attacks, introduces new topics, and randomly begins telling stories with no set-up and no clear way out.

DeSantis is still a C debater. He’s not terrible. He’s not terrific. He’s just Ron.
Ouch. Fascist pols are usually more competent.
Vivek Ramaswamy: F ...
Impossible to top Christie and "It’s not worth my time to" excerpt the article :wave:
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Trump Lashes Out at Donor Who Gave $250,000 to Haley: He ‘Funded a Woman’ Who ‘Sued me for Rape’

:headscratch: Whiny Dolt .45 is going out of his way to remind us of:
... In May, a jury found Trump liable for sexually abusing Carroll, a writer, awarding her $5 million, after she accused him of raping her in the 1990s. She sued him in 2019.

Trump has long denied any wrongdoing and was also found liable for defaming Carroll for launching a smear campaign against her due to the allegations. The trial to determine defamation damages in Carroll's case is set for January, which Trump has appealed in federal court in hopes of receiving presidential immunity as protection.
:roll: That will help with GQP women voters. I would think this would be more damaging to Nikki Heat:
(billionaire co-founder of LinkedIn Reid) Hoffman, a Democrat who has long donated to Democratic political action committees, donated to SFA Fund Inc., which supports Haley.

In June, Hoffman also donated to the Biden Victory Fund in support of President Joe Biden's campaign.
"Victim" ex-PINO ain't very smart.
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MAGAts fish-slap the GQP into submission:

RNC officially bows out of hosting primary debates

RepuQ debates will now be exclusively network-sponsored. Idk that it matters.
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None of the media, left or right, is making any effort to tell the truth about the 2024 election. Why doesn't anybody have the nerve/integrity to say that Biden's approval percent doesn't matter. The economy doesn't matter. Immigration doesn't matter. However popular Trump is in Alabama or California doesn't matter. Alabama will be red and California will be blue no matter who is running. Only the potential swing states matter and there will only be one issue: do you want Trump again or not? It won't be a referendum on Biden, it will be a referendum on Trump.

Are there enough Republicans and Repug leaners to win Trump in all the swing states? In any of the swing states? He's got a very loyal base of cult members, but has he picked up any new fans lately? He's got 80% of Repug preference, but can he win if the other 20% doesn't show up and the Dems and 60% of unaffiliateds do because they hate Trump?

But DeSantis et. al., and the media just cruise along acting like it's going to be a normal election and that the "issues' are what people might say bother them, but that's wrong.

I guess it's keeps more turmoil to treat it like a horse race.

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