The Global Warming thread.

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Lady O and I have seen several shows recently that dealt with previous massive changes in the Earth climate and liveability. From the end of dinosaurs to ice ages to changes in the size and form of continents. So I may not agree, but I can understand somebody saying "change is always happening, it's been happening for a billion years, good or bad there's nothing we frail humans can do about it." I can understand someone saying "what little we can do about it is too expensive and won't matter in the long run." I can understand (and agree with) that "we should focus more on how to adapt to a changing environment than on keeping it from changing."

But it is totally beyond me how these fools can sit there and say stupid stuff like "it's always hot in the summer" in the face of repeated heat records and on the hottest global days ever recorded. Or for that matter why does anybody else give those fools anything but ridicule and scorn?

The only reason is that they've got piles of money from Big Oil, King Coal, etc backing them up.

Speaking of massive changes, September 2023:

650-foot tsunami in Greenland fjord made waves that lasted 9 days, scientists find

The Summary

After seismologists detected abnormal vibrations, they determined that a 650-foot tsunami had occurred in Greenland.

The tsunami was the result of melting glacial ice, which caused a landslide that displaced water in a Greenland fjord.

The waves it created bounced back and forth across the fjord for nine days.

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‘Time To Put Gramps To Bed’: Trump’s Bizarre ‘Seafront’ Claim Leads To Blunt Fact-Check
Critics fired back at the former president after his latest false claim about the climate.

Critics are taking Donald Trump to school after the former president made a bizarre claim about the impact of rising sea levels.

“You’ll have more seafront property, right, if that happens,” Trump told an audience in Michigan on Tuesday.

Michigan would not have more “seafront property” as it’s not on the sea, nor is it near the sea. In fact, the entire state is hundreds of feet above sea level.

However, climate change could lead to an increased risk of flooding, coastal erosion and other problems in the state, which borders four of the Great Lakes.

Trump may have spoken more generally than specifically about Michigan, but the claim is still incorrect.

“If I have a little property on the ocean, I have a little bit more property, I have a little bit more ocean,” the former president said.

Trump does have property near the ocean, including his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida. But rising seas there would not give him “a little bit more property.”

Just the opposite: If the seas were to rise by 10 feet, he’d lose about half of his Mar-a-Lago property... and at 25 feet, there would be nothing left of it at all.

Climate scientist Michael E. Mann, a presidential distinguished professor at the University of Pennsylvania who has fact-checked Trump before, bluntly summed it up:



Others also fired back at Trump:

In Jacksonville, the army corps just spent $32.4 million to replenish the beach that eroded from the rising sea. We have houses falling into the ocean along the banks of N. Carolina, due to the rising sea, and he thinks rising water will increase seafront property?

Lake Michigan is 577 feet above Sea Level. The state currently has 0 feet of seafront.

Maximum sea-level rise if all ice caps were to melt is about 230 feet.

Michigan will never have seafronts in the history of humanity.

The world is truly laughing at us right now.

If all the ice caps just completely melted away, Michigan would still be far inland. (Florida would just be totally gone, though.)

Elon Musk Blows Goats |

Michigan's lowest elevation is the shore of Lake Erie, 571 feet above sea level. If the sea reached Michigan human civilization has already collapsed. FUCK, MAN! This dude is so fucking dumb!!!

So fucking dumb! More tweets at the link

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Scientists looked deep beneath the Doomsday Glacier. What they found spells potential disaster for the planet

Crap.

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Your future POTUS:

'The Wind Is Bulls**t': Trump's Weird New Ramble Has To Be Seen To Be Believed
The former president launched into a strange word salad about windmills during a speech in Pennsylvania.

Maybe his campaign should try unplugging him and then turning him back on?

More tweets at the link.

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The system that moves water around the Earth is off balance for the first time in human history

Humanity has thrown the global water cycle off balance “for the first time in human history,” fueling a growing water disaster that will wreak havoc on economies, food production and lives, according to a landmark new report....

(crappy news)

The consequences will be even more catastrophic without urgent action. The water crisis threatens more than 50% of global food production and risks shaving an average of 8% off countries’ GDPs by 2050, with much higher losses of up to 15% projected in low-income countries, the report found....


A boat on the Rio Negro in Manaus, Brazil, on October 9, 2024, as the river reached its lowest level on record during the most intense and widespread drought the country has experienced since 1950.

(more crappy news)

I've been on the Rio Negro. It was a huge river, rivaling the Amazon at the confluence.

I might make it, but I don't anticipate still being here in 2050. Good.

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California faces ‘unprecedented’ local spread of dengue fever, possibly driven by climate change

... Florida has had locally acquired cases of dengue since at least 2010, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Other states have also periodically presented with locally acquired cases in the past decade, including Texas, New York, West Virginia, North Carolina, Hawaii and Arizona.

But California, which had its first two locally spread dengue cases in 2023, is the only state besides Florida in which residents have caught the disease in the areas where they live this year....

I've seen dengue sufferers. It's nasty business. We're going to see more of the like as AGW worsens.

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Nordic Europe and other regions may be screwed, eventually:

Key Atlantic current could collapse soon, 'impacting the entire world for centuries to come,' leading climate scientists warn

Crap

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Climate set to warm by 3.1 C without greater action, UN report warns

Current climate policies will result in global warming of more than 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, according to a United Nations report on Thursday, more than twice the rise agreed to nearly a decade ago....

Yuck.

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New study uncovers major problem with fuel touted as a 'bridge' to cleaner future: 'Substantially worse than coal'

A new study has found that liquefied natural gas — a form of natural gas that has been cooled to a liquid state for shipping — produces more carbon pollution than even coal, which is widely considered the dirtiest fuel source.

Despite this, the United States is now the world's largest exporter of LNG, and global production capacity is forecast to skyrocket in the coming years.

What's happening?

According to a Cornell University study, LNG's carbon impact is 33% worse than coal's impact when processing and transport are considered, the Cornell Chronicle reported.

Moreover, around 50% of LNG's pollution comes from the carbon dioxide and methane released during production, shipping, and storage, as Robert Howarth, the study's author and an ecology and environmental biology professor at Cornell, explained....

Crap.

Oh well, I'm glad that Trump's election means that we don't have to worry about AGW anymore

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October 2024 set multiple US records for the driest month ever

... In addition to October being historically dry this year, it was also abnormally warm with new records set both nationally and at the statewide levels. NOAA’s monthly US climate report revealed that the contingent U.S. average temperature for the month, 59 degrees Fahrenheit (15 degrees Celsius), took the number two spot in its 130-year climate record for the country, coming in behind October of 1963....

Rats.

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New report sheds light on disturbing practice costing $2.6 trillion per year: 'We continue to finance our own extinction'

... The Guardian reported that Earth Track recently released an analysis showing that the amount the world is spending on environmentally harmful subsidies has increased by $800 billion (roughly $500 billion, taking into account inflation) since 2022.

This increase in spending is due to the impact of the war in Ukraine, which caused a steep uptick in dirty energy subsidies....

We suck, Putin especially, and probably deserve extinction.

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A new consequence to me:


North America's Ongoing, Ignored Disaster

Crap

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One of the predicted tipping points:

Arctic tundra is now emitting more carbon than it absorbs, US agency says
Drastic shift driven by frequent wildfires, pushing surface air temperatures to second-warmest on record since 1900

Crap.

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If this doesn't force dramatic action, nothing will:

Coffee companies issue serious warnings after beans become nearly impossible to grow — here's what's going on

... The changing climate is putting many pantry-staple foods at risk, including chocolate, rice, and tomatoes....

I don't want to live in a world without coffee and chocolate.

Comment:

As usual, this is on me and my car. Not corporate greed. Not deregulation. Not billionaires ripping holes in the atmosphere with their private jets and vanity rocket launches. Even if we all started cycling, nothing would change until the corporations faced some accountability. In other words, never.

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Don't worry - they'll get right on it as soon as they fix the US gun problem.

Goes like this: growers/companies warn about losing crops; crop loss continues; coffee price goes up; coffee gets scarce; coffee goes away and the only thing available is fake. Politicians blame the other party after it's too late.

It's good to be old.

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Don't worry - they'll get right on it as soon as they fix the US gun problem.

Goes like this: growers/companies warn about losing crops; crop loss continues; coffee price goes up; coffee gets scarce; coffee goes away and the only thing available is fake. Politicians blame the other party after it's too late.

It's good to be old.

Yup

The bird at the center of the worst single-species mortality event in modern history isn’t recovering, scientists say

A marine heat wave has killed approximately half of Alaska’s common murre population, marking the largest recorded die-off of a single species in modern history, research has found. The catastrophic loss points to broader changes in marine environments driven by warming ocean temperatures, which are rapidly and severely restructuring ecosystems and inhibiting the ability of such animals to thrive, according to a new study....

Major industry in Greece devastated by worsening sea conditions: 'The destruction we suffered ... was 100%'

Officials say mussel farming in Greece is close to collapsing as record-warm water temperatures take a toll on the industry. Our overheating planet has farmers worried about how they will provide for their families....