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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:36 pm
Message might be failing. :laughing-rolling:

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He hates anyone who became a billionaire with their own hard work and talent.


Interesting:

I Spent the Weekend in the Ohio Town Where Trump Said Immigrants Are Eating Cats. It Took a Turn Quickly.

Plenty of ignorance, bigotry and hate, but ultimately outweighed by compassion, respect and tolerance, along with disgust over the false pet-eating rumors.
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JD Vance Is Spreading A New Racist Lie About Haitians
Vance’s original lie has been proven wrong time and time again — but now he’s back with a new one.


... The Republican vice presidential nominee has spent the last week repeatedly posting on X, formerly known as Twitter, that the Haitian immigrants in Springfield are causing a rise in communicable diseases including HIV and tuberculosis.

But that’s not true. There has been no “measurable or discernible increase” in diseases, according to Bruce Vanderhoff, director of the state department of health. The agency’s website publishes data on myriad infectious and vaccine-preventable diseases in the state and also does not depict any noticeable rise.
Opps. Bruce T. Vanderhoff, M.D., MBA, was appointed director of the Ohio Department of Health (ODH) by Republican governor Mike DeWine in August 2021. Double opps.
... Vance’s lies about Haitians aren’t just scoring political points off of the most vulnerable among us, but are also echoing extremely dark episodes in history. During the Nazi regime, German doctors falsely claimed that Jewish people were responsible for the spread of typhus, an infectious disease spread by lice.
Just Deranged is a racist Nazi.
And one doesn’t need to go back to the Nazi regime to find parallels to Vance’s vicious campaign against Haitian immigrants. In 1983, as the HIV epidemic took hold in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control announced which groups were more at risk, identifying them as “Homosexuals, Heroin users, Hemophiliacs, and Haitians” — especially those who had just arrived in America.

It was “the first time in the history of modern medicine that a pathological condition was tied to a national group,” according to author A. Naomi Paik.

The CDC later removed Haitians from its risk group, saying they were not actually more prone to the virus. But the damage was already done....
Think Just Deranged will ever admit error?
The stigma still persists today. In 2017, then-President Trump reportedly said that the 15,000 Haitian immigrants who had just arrived in the U.S. “all have AIDS.”
:obscene-birdiered: :obscene-birdiered: What is wrong with these people?
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Reporter's Snippy Fact-Check Of Ex-Trump Aide Is Why We Watch Cable News
The Washington Post's Philip Bump refused to let Marc Lotter's misinformation go uncorrected.


... Lotter pivoted from commenting about Kamala Harris’ campaign outing with Liz Cheney, a Republican, to claim that “Harris let in 13,000 murderers who are illegal immigrants in our country.”

“All of these things are very real,” he continued in echoing falsehoods asserted by Trump.

Host Erin Burnett attempted to engage Bump with a question about Harris stumping in heavily Republican regions. But the reporter wasn’t about to ignore the comments of Lotter, the strategic communications director for Trump’s 2020 campaign.

“Yeah, I just want to say, first of all, what Mr. Lotter just said about the 13,000 immigrants is absolutely false,” Bump said. “And I think it’s important to point that out.”...


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Texas hospitals must now ask patients whether they're in the US legally. Here's how it works

Texas hospitals must ask patients starting Friday whether they are in the U.S. legally and track the cost of treating people without legal status following an order by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott that expands the state's clash with the Biden administration over immigration.

Critics fear the change could scare people away from hospitals in Texas, even though patients are not required to answer the questions to receive medical care. The mandate is similar to a policy that debuted last year in Florida, where Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis is also a frequent critic of the federal government's handling of illegal crossings along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Texas hospitals have spent months preparing for the change and have sought to reassure patients that it won't affect their level of care....
I never asked in my 30 years of nursing, even when working at a migrant clinic. If required to ask this by my hospital I would say:
I'm going to ask you two questions. Your answers or choice not to answer will not affect your medical care in any way. Are you a US citizen? If not, are you in the U.S. legally?
I'd even try printing up bilingual flyers stating this. I would also be sure to ask every White patient, even those with Texas drawls or other US accents.

Most likely, though, it will be registration clerks doing the asking. These low wage employees with fewer job protections than nurses are loath to stir the pot, and I don't blame them.
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Get ready for a lot of pics like this one. Actually it took ICE quite a while to live down this one so we can hope.

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Get ready for a lot of pics like this one. Actually it took ICE quite a while to live down this one so we can hope.

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Opinion - The Trump administration’s next target: naturalized US citizens

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His secret plan to rid himself of Melania.

Wonder if Barron's citizenship will be in question as mommy wasn't a citizen when he was born.
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Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:06 am
His secret plan to rid himself of Melania.

:lol: It is alleged that she worked here illegally on a tourist visa and then would have lied about that on her naturalization application.

Wonder if Barron's citizenship will be in question as mommy wasn't a citizen when he was born.

1. They would also have to get rid of birthright citizenship.
2. Wouldn't matter since Dad is an (orange) citizen.
3. Unless they did a paternity test and . . . :o ;)
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:26 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:06 am
His secret plan to rid himself of Melania.

:lol: It is alleged that she worked here illegally on a tourist visa and then would have lied about that on her naturalization application.

Wonder if Barron's citizenship will be in question as mommy wasn't a citizen when he was born.

1. They would also have to get rid of birthright citizenship.
2. Wouldn't matter since Dad is an (orange) citizen.
3. Unless they did a paternity test and . . . :o ;)
He wants to get rid of birthright citizenship.
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:26 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:06 am
His secret plan to rid himself of Melania.

:lol: It is alleged that she worked here illegally on a tourist visa and then would have lied about that on her naturalization application.

Wonder if Barron's citizenship will be in question as mommy wasn't a citizen when he was born.

1. They would also have to get rid of birthright citizenship.
2. Wouldn't matter since Dad is an (orange) citizen.
3. Unless they did a paternity test and . . . :o ;)
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Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:28 pm
He wants to get rid of birthright citizenship.
I know, but I haven't heard a plan for doing so. Most think it would take a constitutional amendment and he'll never get a super majority in Congress.

Plus, Barron would still be protected by #2.

Also, we don't know if both the birthright citizenship repeal and "denaturalization" would be retroactive or not.
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I can dream.
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Mexican President’s Harsh Takedown of Trump Exposes an Ugly MAGA Scam
Claudia Sheinbaum’s response to Trump’s threat of tariffs revealed truths that the president-elect doesn’t want Americans to know.


... But amid all this parsing of Trump’s intentions, a crucial fact about his new move is getting lost: At the center of it is a lie. This lie is hiding in plain sight: It’s the underlying suggestion that Mexico is not doing anything to stop migrants from coming and that Trump’s threat of tariffs is needed to change that....

All this is laid bare by the sharp response to Trump’s threat that new Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum issued Tuesday. Her statement is getting attention for its barbed claim that American guns trafficked to Mexico are fueling crime and violence there among gangs supplying U.S. markets with drugs. “Tragically, it is in our country that lives are lost to the violence resulting from meeting the drug demand in yours,” Sheinbaum noted acidly, suggesting that the two countries’ interrelated national challenges underscore the need for cross-border cooperation rather than Trumpian confrontation.

That’s a harsh indictment of Trump’s whole worldview. But this dry bureaucratic bit also deserves note:

You may not be aware that Mexico has developed a comprehensive policy to assist migrants from different parts of the world who cross our territory en route to the southern border of the United States. As a result, and according to data from your country’s Customs and Border Protection (CBP), encounters at the Mexico-United States border have decreased by 75% between December 2023 and November 2024.

... Adam Isacson, who tracks migration for the human rights group Washington Office on Latin America ...


... “If Trump wants Mexico to crack down on unauthorized migration through its territory,” Isacson told me, “then Biden has already gotten Mexico to do that to a greater extent than anyone has ever done before. He did it without tariffs.”

During the campaign, Trump simply pretended none of that was happening. It’s one of MAGA’s biggest deceptions, and his latest scam carries it forward. The very idea that Mexico must be bullied with tariffs into cracking down on migrants is designed to imply that it’s doing nothing right now—it’s taking advantage of us, Trump might say—and only his fearsome threats can force it into submission....

It’s deeply disturbing that Sheinbaum’s statement—which appears partly directed at Americans—represents a far more faithful effort to inform us about the reality of the cross-border situation than anything offered by our own incoming president. It all suggests we may not be prepared for the gale-force agitprop that’s about to hit us.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:53 am
Texas hospitals must now ask patients whether they're in the US legally. Here's how it works


I never asked in my 30 years of nursing, even when working at a migrant clinic. If required to ask this by my hospital I would say:
I'm going to ask you two questions. Your answers or choice not to answer will not affect your medical care in any way. Are you a US citizen? If not, are you in the U.S. legally?
I'd even try printing up bilingual flyers stating this. I would also be sure to ask every White patient, even those with Texas drawls or other US accents.

Most likely, though, it will be registration clerks doing the asking. These low wage employees with fewer job protections than nurses are loath to stir the pot, and I don't blame them.
Texas governor threatens to pull children’s hospital funding over doctor’s viral post

... Dr. Tony Pastor, a cardiologist at Texas Children’s Hospital and assistant professor at Baylor College of Medicine, went on to post a TikTok on November 11 telling patients they’re not obligated to answer the question. The video went viral, garnering more than one million views....
Dr. Pastor (that's funny) is 100% correct and it's asshole Abbott who is breaking federal law by threatening Medicaid & Medicare funding, even if he never takes action. What part of 'illegal' does he not understand? Send in the federal marshals and LOCK HIM UP!!!
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Remember when Repugs used to support states' rights/local control and opposed unfunded federal mandates?
Trump 'Border Czar' Threatens States Not Willing To 'Cooperate' On Deportations
Tom Homan suggested that federal funding will be slashed if governors and mayors resist a crackdown on undocumented immigrants.


... Homan served as head of ICE’s deportation branch under former President Barack Obama, helping that administration eject a record number of immigrants from the United States.

As acting head of ICE during Trump’s first term in the White House, Homan oversaw the separation of migrant children from their families — one of that administration’s most notorious policies....
Trump’s ‘Border Czar’ Pick Has Been Auditioning For The Role On Extremist Media Platforms
Tom Horman has been a fixture in the fever swamps of far-right media.


"including a program hosted by an Adolf Hitler-admiring QAnon conspiracist"
... Homan has also been a frequent guest on lesser-known programs, including the “Patriot Streetfighter” podcast hosted by Scott McKay. In a recent story about McKay threatening a local judge, News Channel 5 in Nashville described his history of extremist rhetoric:

A prominent figure in the widely mocked and discredited QAnon conspiracy movement, McKay himself has claimed that Americans are secretly living on Mars, suggested that Jared Kushner may be a clone created by the Chinese government, argued that Jews are pulling the levers of “every institution of power on Earth,” praised Adolf Hitler for “fighting the same people that we’re trying to take down today” and threatened to “put … bullets inside” medical professionals involved in the response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

... While promoting Border911, Homan made appearances across far-right media. Earlier this year he appeared on “Loomer Unleashed,” a show on Rumble hosted by Laura Loomer, the extremist MAGA influencer who made headlines this fall for developing a close relationship with Trump on the campaign trail.

Loomer has advocated executing Trump’s political enemies; said a judge overseeing one of the president-elect’s criminal trials should be deported; called for the mass deportation of Muslims; referred to Black congresswomen with racial slurs; pushed the white supremacist “Great Replacement” conspiracy theory; and spoken in genocidal terms about Palestinians, saying Israel should “flatten” Gaza. She enjoys a friendly relationship with Nick Fuentes, the Hitler-admiring white supremacist leader of the pro-Trump “groyper” movement....
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:43 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:26 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:06 am
His secret plan to rid himself of Melania.

:lol: It is alleged that she worked here illegally on a tourist visa and then would have lied about that on her naturalization application.

Wonder if Barron's citizenship will be in question as mommy wasn't a citizen when he was born.

1. They would also have to get rid of birthright citizenship.
2. Wouldn't matter since Dad is an (orange) citizen.
3. Unless they did a paternity test and . . . :o ;)
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:28 pm
He wants to get rid of birthright citizenship.
I know, but I haven't heard a plan for doing so. Most think it would take a constitutional amendment and he'll never get a super majority in Congress.

Plus, Barron would still be protected by #2.

Also, we don't know if both the birthright citizenship repeal and "denaturalization" would be retroactive or not.
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Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:56 pm
I can dream.
:D Dreamers are good.

Trump pick for border czar slams Chicago leadership: 'Your mayor sucks and your governor sucks'

:think: They must be doing something right.
... Tom Homan spoke at a Northwest Side GOP holiday party, saying his plan includes verifying the status of asylum seekers and arresting anyone who is found harboring migrants who they are looking for.
Even White folks?
... Pritzker's office released the following statement in response to Homan:

"It’s no secret that Illinois will face countless, baseless attacks over the next four years from the Trump Administration. Rather than responding to every ridiculous boast from Trump lackeys, Governor Pritzker is focused on what he was focused on during the first Trump term: leading our state with competence instead of chaos."

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A day without immigrants at Mammoth Lake ski/resort area. Send a message.
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O Really wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:46 pm
A day without immigrants at Mammoth Lake ski/resort area. Send a message.
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... e-to-trump
Who's gonna bus the tables at Mar A Lago?
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O Really wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:46 pm
A day without immigrants at Mammoth Lake ski/resort area. Send a message.
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... e-to-trump
Will anyone care about a town servicing liberal skiers and tourists in a Dem county in a Dem state? Otoh, if this happened in every city TRE45QN visits he wouldn't be welcome very many places. :think:
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