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A state that ranks almost dead last in education.

This'll fix it.

People Have A LOT Of Feelings About Bibles Coming To Every Oklahoma Classroom


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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:03 pm
A state that ranks almost dead last in education.

This'll fix it.

People Have A LOT Of Feelings About Bibles Coming To Every Oklahoma Classroom

OMG
https://x.com/narrenhut/status/1857546077391441984
The Church Of Satan

Many people sending this to us asking if we will fight to get The Satanic Bible put in classrooms as well?

The answer, as always, is no.

We don't condone the indoctrination of children, don't believe religion should be taught in schools, and we aren't hypocrites.
:thumbup: :-||
USA Today reports that some large districts in the state say they aren't complying with the mandate.

Piedmont schools in the suburbs of Oklahoma City sent a letter to parents saying they have "'No plans to change course from our current materials."

In the letter, the school district said they "acknowledge the significant influence of various religions in world history and culture" but "it is important to clarify that while students learn about religion's role in historical and cultural contexts, teaching any specific religious doctrine or practice is not a part of the current standards."...
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Heroes. :angel:
Courts are going to have a fun time with this one.
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Goddamn those woke teachers indoctrinating our kids!
“The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory.”
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Texas education officials approve optional school curriculum that incorporates Bible lessons. Some say it’s unconstitutional

"optional" :roll:
... While they are not required to use the new materials, adopting the state-developed open-education resource can earn schools $60 per student annually....

Staci Childs, a member of the board who voted against Bluebonnet, told CNN Friday that although the curriculum is optional, she expects most districts will adopt it given the “huge financial implications” of the incentive....
Christofascist "free will" and bribery.
“Christian nationalism is on the march throughout this entire country, and one of the main focal points for attack right now is public education, because there, they can indoctrinate instead of educate,” (Rachel, CEO of Americans United for Separation of Church and State) Laser said.
:puke-left:

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Trump demands Republicans ‘kill’ bill that would protect journalists from government spying

... The bill has been passed by the House of Representatives twice with bipartisan support, and it has Republican sponsors in the Senate, but it has been stalled for months in the Senate Judiciary Committee, with Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark) is said to be holding up the measure....
Thanks for nothing, Dems. FU TRE45QN.
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1963 but still very timely:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05LaTuuKPlI

Recognize the actor?
Spoiler:
27 year old Dennis Hopper, 6 years before Easy Rider
The Twilight Zone
S4.E4
He's Alive
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Meta scraps fact checking:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/07/meta-el ... notes.html
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on Tuesday announced it will eliminate its third-party fact checking program to “restore free expression” and move to a “Community Notes” model, similar to the system that exists on Elon Musk’s platform X.

The company said Community Notes will be written and rated by contributing users to provide more context to posts across its platforms, and the feature will roll out in the U.S. over the next couple of months. The announcement marks Meta’s latest attempt to smooth over relations with Republican President-elect Donald Trump before he takes office.

“We’ve reached a point where it’s just too many mistakes, and too much censorship,” Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg said Tuesday in a video announcement. “The recent elections also feel like a cultural tipping point towards once again prioritizing speech, so we’re going to get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying our polices and restoring free expression on our platforms.”

Zuckerberg said the third-party fact checkers have been “too politically biased” and have “destroyed more trust than they’ve created, especially in the U.S.”
Facts c. 2025: Whatever your gut instinct tells you is true is therefore true.

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:38 am
Meta scraps fact checking:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/07/meta-el ... notes.html
Meta
on Tuesday announced it will eliminate its third-party fact checking program to “restore free expression” and move to a “Community Notes” model, similar to the system that exists on Elon Musk’s platform X.

The company said Community Notes will be written and rated by contributing users to provide more context to posts across its platforms, and the feature will roll out in the U.S. over the next couple of months. The announcement marks Meta’s latest attempt to smooth over relations with Republican President-elect Donald Trump before he takes office.

“We’ve reached a point where it’s just too many mistakes, and too much censorship,” Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg said Tuesday in a video announcement. “The recent elections also feel like a cultural tipping point towards once again prioritizing speech, so we’re going to get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying our polices and restoring free expression on our platforms.”

Zuckerberg said the third-party fact checkers have been “too politically biased” and have “destroyed more trust than they’ve created, especially in the U.S.”
Facts c. 2025: Whatever your gut instinct tells you is true is therefore true.
Plus, whatever the majority of the “Community", including profiteers, foreign actors and bots, says is true is therefore true. :angry-banghead:
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Are we the baddies 😦

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Whack9 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:31 am
Are we the baddies 😦

https://i.imgur.com/97PMDFA.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/XKT66si.jpeg
:roll: :x :roll: :x Yes, even towards Americans:

IRS reportedly preparing to give Musk’s Doge agency access to taxpayer data
US tax agency has received request for access to classified system containing personal financial records of US taxpayer


:roll: :problem: :obscene-birdiered:
... Prior efforts by Doge members to access treasury department data have been pushed back. Nineteen state attorneys general have sued to block the Trump administration’s policy of allowing political appointees and “special government employees” to the access that department’s payment systems.
Heroes.
... Doge incursions into the US tax collection agency come as the agency is preparing to lay off thousands of workers hired by the previous Biden administration....
:crazy: Can't reduce collections and deficits at the same time.

billy.pilgrim, this thread's originator, was one of those "great minds":
The new world order is exactly what it looks like. Are we too frozen with fear to name it?
The truth is paralysing. But after JD Vance met the far-right leader Alice Weidel in Germany, it is time to be clear about what we are seeing


... Like many people, I often feel as if I grew up with the Michael Rosen poem that starts: “I sometimes fear that / people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress.” In fact, it was written in 2014, but it was such a neat distillation that it instantly joined the canon of words that had always existed, right up there with clouds being lonely and parents fucking you up. Obviously, fascism arrives as your friend. How else would it arrive?

What I did not anticipate, when thinking that the whole suite of behaviours, from Nazi saluting to upturning reality, belonged well and truly to the past, was the sense of paralysis that would settle when fascism finally put its fancy dress on.

I’m not talking about other world leaders, and the sufficiency or otherwise of their response. I’m honestly just talking about the guy in the street, the spectator, myself. You’re dumbstruck for ages, not wanting to call the thing what it is. It starts off feeling like embarrassment or coyness – what kind of hysteric runs around shouting “fascist”? A very silly one, surely? They might be the ones who have put their patent jackboots on, but fancy dress only exists with an audience.

Then it morphs into something more superstitious – don’t call the thing what it is because that will only embolden the thing. You can keep telling yourself that the thing is already bold enough and doesn’t need your energy. Yet the feeling persists: if I decline to freak out, then the next phase cannot commence....
Crap :problem:

The poem:
Sunday, 18 May 2014

Fascism: I sometimes fear...

I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

-- Michael Rosen
Double crap :angry-banghead: Spot on prediction of MAGA.

Fuhrer Musk and his modern Brownshirts:

Elon Musk ridiculed a blind person on X. Then a mob went to work.

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White house posts pic of immigrants in shackles

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/18/white-h ... video.html
The White House on Tuesday afternoon posted a video online showing immigrants in shackles being prepared to board a deportation flight from Seattle.

The video includes footage of a set of handcuffs and chains jingling as they are pulled from a basket containing other shackles and then laid out on the airport tarmac next to four other sets of restraints.

The X post by the White House is titled, “ASMR: Illegal Alien Deportation Flight.”

ASMR is a nonclinical term that stands for “Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response.” It refers to a pleasant, tingling feeling some people experience when watching videos featuring unusual sounds, like whispering or fingernails tapping on a surface.
Damn there is really no low for these people. And these are the guys evangelicals fawn over. So Christ like.

I've always thought things like dignity and honor should be values we ought to strive for. Apparently pettiness and nastiness and cruelty are the true American values.

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:03 pm
White house posts pic of immigrants in shackles

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/18/white-h ... video.html
The White House on Tuesday afternoon posted a video online showing immigrants in shackles being prepared to board a deportation flight from Seattle.

The video includes footage of a set of handcuffs and chains jingling as they are pulled from a basket containing other shackles and then laid out on the airport tarmac next to four other sets of restraints.

The X post by the White House is titled, “ASMR: Illegal Alien Deportation Flight.”

ASMR is a nonclinical term that stands for “Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response.” It refers to a pleasant, tingling feeling some people experience when watching videos featuring unusual sounds, like whispering or fingernails tapping on a surface.
Damn there is really no low for these people. And these are the guys evangelicals fawn over. So Christ like.

I've always thought things like dignity and honor should be values we ought to strive for. Apparently pettiness and nastiness and cruelty are the true American values.
Damn! Using restraints to control a bunch of criminals.

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Supsalemgr wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:07 am
Whack9 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:03 pm
White house posts pic of immigrants in shackles

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/18/white-h ... video.html
The White House on Tuesday afternoon posted a video online showing immigrants in shackles being prepared to board a deportation flight from Seattle.

The video includes footage of a set of handcuffs and chains jingling as they are pulled from a basket containing other shackles and then laid out on the airport tarmac next to four other sets of restraints.

The X post by the White House is titled, “ASMR: Illegal Alien Deportation Flight.”

ASMR is a nonclinical term that stands for “Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response.” It refers to a pleasant, tingling feeling some people experience when watching videos featuring unusual sounds, like whispering or fingernails tapping on a surface.
Damn there is really no low for these people. And these are the guys evangelicals fawn over. So Christ like.

I've always thought things like dignity and honor should be values we ought to strive for. Apparently pettiness and nastiness and cruelty are the true American values.
Damn! Using restraints to control a bunch of criminals.
Are you stupid?

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Supsalemgr wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:07 am
Damn! Using restraints to control a bunch of criminals.
Ut-oh, heartless SoupySales got a hard-on. You should be careful posting such provocative images, Whack9.

Crossing the border without ever having been deported is NOT a "criminal" offense. Ironic that you, a US citizen, fail Civics and current events. However, it's not surprising for a bigoted Trumpette. SSDD.
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Are you stupid?
:lol: SoupySales is a MAGAt CPFer, so . . .
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Word of the day: Tact

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tact
: a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others or avoid offense
I know the word "offense" will trigger some users as it goes against their programming, but tactfulness has always been something that's been important for those in positions of leadership.

Is it wrong to deport illegal immigrants? No. Is it wrong to lock up violent criminals? Does the administration have a track record of also chaining up non-violent offenders? Possibly:


https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics ... index.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-deporte ... ght-india/

Are there tactful ways to go about handling situations without celebrating cruelty? Yes. A quick look at any of Trump's social media posts and it's very obvious that that boy is a pig. That's not something I personally respect. And I don't put faith in someone with a track record of behaving in such a disgusting manner to not use cruelty to his own ends.

The average US adult reads at a sixth grade level, so I wouldn't understand many to understand nuance.

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Whack9 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:01 am
Supsalemgr wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:07 am
Whack9 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:03 pm
White house posts pic of immigrants in shackles

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/18/white-h ... video.html
The White House on Tuesday afternoon posted a video online showing immigrants in shackles being prepared to board a deportation flight from Seattle.

The video includes footage of a set of handcuffs and chains jingling as they are pulled from a basket containing other shackles and then laid out on the airport tarmac next to four other sets of restraints.

The X post by the White House is titled, “ASMR: Illegal Alien Deportation Flight.”

ASMR is a nonclinical term that stands for “Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response.” It refers to a pleasant, tingling feeling some people experience when watching videos featuring unusual sounds, like whispering or fingernails tapping on a surface.
Damn there is really no low for these people. And these are the guys evangelicals fawn over. So Christ like.

I've always thought things like dignity and honor should be values we ought to strive for. Apparently pettiness and nastiness and cruelty are the true American values.
Damn! Using restraints to control a bunch of criminals.
Are you stupid?
No. What do you think should be done to make these criminals secure?

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Supsalemgr wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:02 am
Whack9 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:01 am
Supsalemgr wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:07 am
Whack9 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:03 pm
White house posts pic of immigrants in shackles

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/18/white-h ... video.html
The White House on Tuesday afternoon posted a video online showing immigrants in shackles being prepared to board a deportation flight from Seattle.

The video includes footage of a set of handcuffs and chains jingling as they are pulled from a basket containing other shackles and then laid out on the airport tarmac next to four other sets of restraints.

The X post by the White House is titled, “ASMR: Illegal Alien Deportation Flight.”

ASMR is a nonclinical term that stands for “Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response.” It refers to a pleasant, tingling feeling some people experience when watching videos featuring unusual sounds, like whispering or fingernails tapping on a surface.
Damn there is really no low for these people. And these are the guys evangelicals fawn over. So Christ like.

I've always thought things like dignity and honor should be values we ought to strive for. Apparently pettiness and nastiness and cruelty are the true American values.
Damn! Using restraints to control a bunch of criminals.
Are you stupid?
No. What do you think should be done to make these criminals secure?
I'm not arguing that violent criminals shouldn't be shackled. If someone is guilty of a heinous crime or has a history of violence then yeah, they need to go.

If your only crime is coming here illegally and you're an otherwise decent human being, then no. Just go through the legal avenues and put them on a flight home and be done with it. I don't think there's a need to chain them up and make a spectacle out of it. I don't think there's a need to make a spectacle out of any of it. Just do the job. Tactfully.

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It is my understanding these first deportees are criminals in addition to being illegal.

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