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Vrede too wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:10 am

:shock: :shock: News to me.
This doesn’t smell right. A search for subnordica leads to variations of the same article and not much else.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF- ... SUBNORDICA
Eamus Catuli~AC 000000 000101 010202 020303 010304 020405....Ahhhh, forget it, it's gonna be a while.

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This doesn’t smell right. A search for subnordica leads to variations of the same article and not much else.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF- ... SUBNORDICA
Idk about drowned northern Europe civilization, but:
Over geologic time sea level has fluctuated by more than 300 metres, possibly more than 400 metres. The main reasons for sea level fluctuations in the last 15 million years are the Antarctic ice sheet and Antarctic post-glacial rebound during warm periods.

The current sea level is about 130 metres higher than the historical minimum. Historically low levels were reached during the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), about 20,000 years ago. The last time the sea level was higher than today was during the Eemian, about 130,000 years ago.

Over a shorter timescale, the low level reached during the LGM rebounded in the early Holocene, between about 14,000 and 6,500 years ago, leading to a 110 m sea level rise. Sea levels have been comparatively stable over the past 6,500 years, ending with a 0.50 m sea level rise over the past 1,500 years. For example, about 10,200 years ago the last land bridge between mainland Europe and Great Britain was submerged, leaving behind a salt marsh. By 8000 years ago the marshes were drowned by the sea, leaving no trace of any former dry land connection. Observational and modeling studies of mass loss from glaciers and ice caps indicate a contribution to a sea-level rise of 2 to 4 cm over the 20th century.
The Baltic Sea was:
Ancylus Lake is a name given by geologists to a large freshwater lake that existed in northern Europe approximately from 8,750 to 7,850 years BC, being in effect one of various predecessors to the modern Baltic Sea.
So, there was a stretch of land where the North and Baltic Seas now connect. Idk for sure about human activity there. Looks like another name for Subnordica was:
Doggerland was an area of land in Northern Europe, now submerged beneath the southern North Sea. This region was repeatedly exposed at various times during the Pleistocene epoch due to the lowering of sea levels during glacial periods. However, the term "Doggerland" is generally specifically used for this region during the Late Pleistocene and Early Holocene. During the early Holocene following the glacial retreat at the end of the Last Glacial Period, the exposed land area of Doggerland stretched across the region between what is now the east coast of Great Britain, the Netherlands, north-west Germany, and the Danish peninsula of Jutland. Between 10,000 and 7,000 years ago, Doggerland was inundated by rising sea levels, disintegrating initially into a series of low-lying islands before submerging completely.

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... The archaeological potential of the area was first identified in the early 20th century. Interest intensified in 1931 when a fishing trawler operating east of the Wash dragged up a barbed antler point that was subsequently dated to a time when the area was tundra. Vessels have since dragged up remains of mammoths, lions and other animals, and a few prehistoric tools and weapons. Most archaeological evidence of human habitation dates to the Mesolithic period during the early Holocene.

As of 2020, international teams are continuing a two-year investigation into the submerged landscape of Doggerland using new and traditional archaeo-geophysical techniques, computer simulation, and molecular biology. Evidence gathered allows study of past environments, ecological change, and human transition from hunter-gatherer to farming communities.
Conjuring the Lost Land Beneath the North Sea
New research reveals that Doggerland—a sunken swath of Europe connecting Britain to the mainland—was more than a simple thoroughfare. It was home.


The Submerged Landscapes Research Centre resides at the University of Bradford, a credible institution.
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2024 first year to pass 1.5C global warming limit

The planet has moved a major step closer to warming more than 1.5C, new data shows, despite world leaders vowing a decade ago they would try to avoid this.

The European Copernicus climate service, one of the main global data providers, said on Friday that 2024 was the first calendar year to pass the symbolic threshold, as well as the world's hottest on record....

Last week UN chief António Guterres described the recent run of temperature records as "climate breakdown".

"We must exit this road to ruin - and we have no time to lose," he said in his New Year message, calling for countries to slash emissions of planet-warming gases in 2025....

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... In 2024, the world saw blistering temperatures in west Africa, prolonged drought in parts of South America, intense rainfall in central Europe and some particularly strong tropical storms hitting north America and south Asia....

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Record January warmth puzzles climate scientists

... January 2025 had been expected to be slightly cooler than January 2024 because of a shift away from a natural weather pattern in the Pacific known as El Niño....

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:o :angry-banghead:
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Scientists sound alarm over troubling phenomena forcing them to 'rethink' everything: 'Predictability has become more challenging'

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At a recent meeting in Washington, scientists raised concerns about a troubling shift in climate patterns: the growing unpredictability of extreme weather events, per Bloomberg.

This unpredictability makes forecasting more difficult and leaves communities less prepared for extreme conditions. As key climate systems behave in unexpected ways, researchers are struggling to adjust their models accordingly. Bloomberg reports they need to "rethink" everything, as "predictability has become more challenging."...

Why is this important?

This unpredictability complicates worldwide efforts to prepare for extreme weather. For example, six major storms hit the Philippines in just three weeks — a situation nearly twice as likely due to warming global temperatures, according to one study cited by Bloomberg.

Similarly, extreme weather has disrupted agriculture. For example, hurricane damage to Florida's orange crops is affecting local economies and food security.
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If these trends continue, the gap between climate models and reality could widen, making it harder to protect vulnerable communities and infrastructure.

What's being done about it?

... On the policy side, there's some concern over funding cuts to climate research. For instance, the Project 2025 roadmap proposes slashing funding for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration at a time when countries like China are ramping up climate research efforts....
MAGAts despise science, their offspring and the future. :ateeth:
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Potato chip prices are soaring due to an unexpected factor: 'It's not sustainable'

A bag of potato chips now costs nearly 50% more than 10 years ago. Part of the rise in price is due to inflation, but another major cause is our overheating planet, as The Allegheny Front reported....
Okay, NOW I'm going to get up off the couch and do something about AGW.
:( :angry-cussing: ;)
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The major cities that are becoming too hot for humans to live in
Large areas of Earth’s surface could soon be so hot that people will die within hours in the open air, several recent studies have warned.


With record-breaking temperatures being recorded seemingly every month, experts are now warning large areas of the Earth could become completely inhospitable to humans due to the scorching heat....

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The world has seen 18 of the past 19 months with temperatures above 1.5C higher than pre-industrial times. (Climate.copernicus.eu)

... "This is all going to get worse," Carron continued. "New Delhi was especially badly hit with extreme heat. We could easily see heat indexes in this part of the world that make outdoor life virtually impossible, by the end of the century. In the US too this is going to be an issue – for example, Chicago is becoming a severe heat zone.

... The Climate Action Tracker predicts that today's policies could lead to 2.7C warming above pre-industrial levels by 2100: warming of 4-5C is unlikely, but not impossible.

With a rise of this level, unsurvivable heat would also begin to affect younger people in tropical areas, the King’s College study found.

With a rise of 2C, the area where even young adults could not keep a safe body temperature will triple to 6% of Earth’s land surface.
:problem: Crap.
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“The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory.”
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Speaking of Florida weather:

Tornado Hits Florida TV Station During Live Weather Broadcast

Weather dude keeps talking and warning the citizenry while telling everyone in the studio building to shelter under desks or wherever. Hero. :thumbup:

Tornado hits in the first couple of minutes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xA7AthpTzU
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