Are The Jackboots Coming Next?

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I'm pretty sure that she's a D or I, not an R.

I watched that and have mixed feelings.

I don't have a problem with heckling, but it can have consequences. It was a RepuQ event and she admits to being disruptive. The chair has the right to run things as s/he sees fit. Depending on the venue's rules and rental contract language the use of private security is also legit. Unlike cops, they have no mandate to ID themselves, though not doing so makes their job harder. It could be that ejection is legal, especially when the sheriff requests it.

She did a poor job of going limp. Any struggling at all, and especially biting, gives the authorities more latitude to be rough. I could have made it even more difficult for the rent-a-cops without struggling at all. Think 200+ lb sack of potatoes.

Could be just me, but I'd only give this a 1 or 2/5 on the jackboot scale.
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Don't think they can go hands on at their discretion.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:48 pm
Don't think they can go hands on at their discretion.
I think there are times when they can, but -0-? Anyhow, the sheriff requested their assistance. I think that covers their asses.

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Oppsie.

I started the thread with the Jack Boots are coming and then changed it to are the Jack boots coming?
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:42 pm
I'm pretty sure that she's a D or I, not an R.

I watched that and have mixed feelings.

I don't have a problem with heckling, but it can have consequences. It was a RepuQ event and she admits to being disruptive. The chair has the right to run things as s/he sees fit. Depending on the venue's rules and rental contract language the use of private security is also legit. Unlike cops, they have no mandate to ID themselves, though not doing so makes their job harder. It could be that ejection is legal, especially when the sheriff requests it.

She did a poor job of going limp. Any struggling at all, and especially biting, gives the authorities more latitude to be rough. I could have made it even more difficult for the rent-a-cops without struggling at all. Think 200+ lb sack of potatoes.

Could be just me, but I'd only give this a 1 or 2/5 on the jackboot scale.
A reasonable response. Still a number of questions to be answered about the situation.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:48 pm
Don't think they can go hands on at their discretion.
Updates:
Update: Police chief condemns security at Idaho town hall, refuses sheriff’s request
Updated February 24, 2025 11:34 AM

... Though the company that provided security for the event has been identified, town hall organizers and Kootenai County Sheriff Bob Norris have claimed no knowledge of the security personnel or who hired them.
Lying sacks of shit. The organizers threatened people with ejection by private security and we all saw the Sheriff directing the private security.
Coeur d’Alene Police Chief Lee White confirmed Sunday that the men who dragged Teresa Borrenpohl from the meeting worked for the private security firm LEAR Asset Management.

Reached by phone on Saturday and Sunday, the firm’s owner, Hayden resident Paul Trouette, declined to comment.
Coward.
As the town hall got underway and legislators made their remarks, Borrenpohl said the audience cheered and jeered at turns. “Nobody was telling people cheering to stop cheering, but anytime there was a negative reaction, we were scolded,” she said. “I felt comfortable expressing displeasure because people were very openly expressing their appreciation for the legislators there.”
Welcome to GQP hypocrisy and disdain for equal free speech.
... Kootenai County GOP officials said Saturday that they didn’t know which company provided security for their event and told the Press to seek that information from the sheriff.
:bs: Sheriffs don't hire private security. They use off-duty cops.
... White said it’s not appropriate for law enforcement to forcefully remove a person from a town hall for speaking out of turn or shouting. “I don’t care what your message is, especially in an open town hall like this,” White said. “We have to respect everybody’s First Amendment rights, regardless of what side of the aisle you happen to sit on. I know there’s some people up here who probably disagree with me and would like us to take action and maybe try to silence a voice that’s in opposition to theirs at a town hall, but there’s very little we can do with regard to First Amendment protections. We have to make sure people have the protections afforded them under the Constitution.”
The Sheriff spits on the Constitution.
... White said his officers declined the sheriff’s request that Borrenpohl be arrested for trespassing. “We respectfully informed the sheriff that, since this was an open to the public event, we are not going to arrest anyone for trespassing,” White said. “That would be inappropriate.”
:---P The Sheriff is an idiot and a crybaby.
... Police and prosecutors will also consider the actions of the security guards, White said. Coeur d’Alene city code requires security agents to wear uniforms “clearly marked” with the word “security” in letters no less than 1 inch tall on the front and no less than four inches tall on the back. The security personnel at Saturday’s town hall were in plainclothes, with no visible sign they were security.
Opps.
When the Coeur d’Alene City Council approved the uniform requirement last summer, Trouette testified against the change. “Paul Trouette contacted me and told me they wouldn’t be doing any security of that type in our city, and yet, here they are,” White said.
Lying sack of shit.
... Coeur d’Alene police officers were in the parking lot at CHS during the town hall in case the Shoshone County resident who allegedly made the threat appeared, White said. When there was a disturbance in the auditorium, no one alerted the officers until after Borrenpohl had been removed. Norris said this was because it wasn’t the agency’s place to act. “They don’t have jurisdiction,” he said of the Coeur d’Alene Police Department. “They would not have come into a private event held at the high school and the person who secures the location gets to set the protocols of what occurs.”

White pushed back on Norris’ comment. Coeur d’Alene High School is squarely within his agency’s jurisdiction, he said, and his officers would’ve entered the building had they been called sooner. “We would’ve stood by to make sure no one was in danger, while at the same time protecting people’s First Amendment rights,” he said....
Busted, lying sack of shit Sheriff Norris.
Idaho woman’s removal from town hall garners national attention. Watch full video here
Updated February 25, 2025 12:46 PM

... Coeur d’Alene city code requires security agents to wear uniforms displaying the word “security” on the front and back of their uniforms, the Press reported. The city revoked LEAR Asset Management’s business license for violating the ordinance, according to Press.
:---P :---P :---P
... The video conflicts with statements later made by Norris to news outlets. The sheriff told KREM that he had walked away to escort another person out of the event and that Borrenpohl was already on the ground by the time he returned. He told the Press that he did not give the security guards any direction.
Lying sack of shit Sheriff Norris.
The Press reported that police cited Borrenpohl for misdemeanor battery for biting one of the men, but the prosecuting attorney’s office has moved to dismiss it after reviewing video.
:lol: :---P

We didn't exactly get an answer as to whether licensed and properly attired rent-a-cops could have ejected her, just that the PD would not have done so.
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:42 pm
:lol: :---P

We didn't exactly get an answer as to whether licensed and properly attired rent-a-cops could have ejected her, just that the PD would not have done so.
So, Jackboots after all.

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Be interesting to see if the GQP congress members adopt this tactic in the next few months when having to face their constituents. A few dozen more of these things might just do the trick.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:57 pm
Be interesting to see if the GQP congress members adopt this tactic in the next few months when having to face their constituents. A few dozen more of these things might just do the trick.
That would make me MORE likely to go be disruptive. :twisted:
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