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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:37 am
Supsalemgr wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 10:33 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 10:09 am
Hey Supes,

What ever happened to Qanon on CPF?

I know you’re not a fan but it used to be the biggest thread and all they could talk about, now it's crickets.
Thanks for acknowledging I was not a follower. That being said, I have no idea.
They don't talk about Qanon anymore?

It was such a big part of their existence.
:shh: It's a secret.

Scientists warn swimmers of serious risks lurking in the Great Lakes: 'Highest reported worldwide'

... The reporting suggests that anyone swimming in the lakes could be exposed to high levels of microplastics, though the situation is worst in Lakes Ontario and Michigan, which have a lot of visitors. The microplastics can enter the body through consumption, inhalation, or skin contact, and they are associated with long-term ailments like colon cancer, infertility, and respiratory issues....
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“The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory.”
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Mar 01, 2025 4:01 pm
President Trump to sign executive order unleashing forest management after LA wildfires

Preventing devastating wildfires is a laudable goal, but in my experience this means logging, logging and more logging. Watch. Ironically, this leads to MORE fires due to increased human activity on new roads.
Vrede too wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:20 am
Supsalemgr wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 6:12 am
Yep. Leaving all that forest debris to become fuels has worked out well.
Yep. Aggressively fighting all fires such that forest debris build up has worked out well.
Yep. Punching in roads everywhere so that fire-causing humans have unlimited access has worked out well.

You've been sold a bill of goods, again. Irl it's never about "debris" removal. If so, they would leave the healthy, mature, fire resistant and profitable trees while clearing out the rest. Good luck finding a project where that's done.
Vrede too wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:51 am
Supsalemgr wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:40 am
It is clear Vrede has missed all the reforestation that goes with logging.
It is clear that SoupySales is talking out of his ignorant, dogmatic ass to someone who has actually been a tree planter.
Did Trump really order 280 million acres of national forest to be cut down?
The president wants to bypass environmental rules to increase domestic timber production. Here’s what that means for America’s public lands.


... That signals more trees will be cut down.

How many more remains to be seen. Ultimately, Trump is unlikely to flatten hundreds of millions of acres during his second term. But whatever the scale, environmentalists warn that expanding logging while reducing oversight will damage fragile ecosystems, threaten old-growth forests, increase pollution and even worsen wildfires.

“This Trump executive order is the most blatant attempt in American history by a president to hand over federal public lands to the logging industry,” Chad Hanson, a wildfire scientist at the John Muir Project, told the Guardian. “Trump’s exact approach — logging in remote forests and telling communities that it will stop fires — is responsible for numerous towns being destroyed by fires in recent years, and hundreds of lives lost.”
As I said.
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Hell, with a 250% tariff on Canadian lumber, this forest cleaning will be a damn profitable endeavor. For a few. Cheer it on, cultists. Gush in dumbfounded awe.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:44 pm
Hell, with a 250% tariff on Canadian lumber, this forest cleaning will be a damn profitable endeavor. For a few. Cheer it on, cultists. Gush in dumbfounded awe.
:D I'm investing in rakes.

The list of the world’s top 20 most polluted cities is out. All but one are in Asia

... The majority of these cities – 13 – are in the world’s most populous country, India, where booming economic growth is fired largely by coal and where hundreds of millions live in traffic-clogged and congested megacities.

Another four are in neighboring Pakistan, with one in China and Kazakhstan respectively.

The only city outside of Asia featured on the list is N’Djamena, the capital of Chad in central Africa – which was named the country with the worst air pollution.

Meanwhile the cities with the worst pollution in North America were all in California.

The report by IQAir, a Swiss company that tracks global air quality, looked specifically at fine particulate matter, or PM2.5, one of the smallest but most dangerous pollutants.

PM2.5 comes from sources like the combustion of fossil fuels, dust storms and wildfires. It is so tiny – 1/20th of a width of a human hair – that it can travel past your body’s usual defenses into your lungs or bloodstream.

The particles cause irritation and inflammation and have been linked to respiratory problems and chronic kidney disease. Exposure can cause cancer, stroke or heart attacks and has been associated with a higher risk of depression and anxiety.

The World Health Organization (WHO) says average annual levels of PM2.5 should not exceed 5 micrograms per cubic meter.

Byrnihat, an industrial town in northeast India recorded a PM2.5 concentration of 128.2 last year – more than 25 times the WHO’s standard.

... Twelve other cities in the top 20 are in India.

Its capital New Delhi featured as the world’s most polluted capital for the sixth consecutive year, with a PM2.5 concentration of 91.8.

... But overall, India – the world’s most populous nation with 1.4 billion people dropped from third to fifth place from the previous year, according to the report.

But the report said air pollution “remains a significant health burden… reducing life expectancy by an estimated 5.2 years.”

India’s neighbors Bangladesh and Pakistan – together home to some 400 million people – were second and third-most polluted countries globally in terms of PM2.5 molecules, according to the report.

... China is the world’s largest carbon dioxide emitter but in recent years has waged a campaign against air pollution, particularly in the cities that have fuelled its economic growth, and has pushed a massive expansion in solar and wind power.
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But last month two clean-energy groups raised alarm over what they said were plans by China’s power industry to build nearly 100 gigawatts of new coal plant capacity last year, the most in nearly a decade.
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All 20 of the world’s most polluted cities last year exceeded WHO PM2.5 guidelines by over 10 times, the IQ Air report showed.

“Air pollution remains a critical threat to both human health and environmental stability, yet vast populations remain unaware of their exposure levels,” said Frank Hammes, Global CEO of IQAir.

Iran and Afghanistan did not feature in this year’s report due to a lack of data availability.

Air quality monitoring in Southeast Asia is also a problem, with nearly all countries having “significant gaps in government-led initiatives,” the report found.

... In 2024, 173 out of 392 cities in the region lacked government monitoring stations, while Cambodia had none, it said.

Those problems are likely to be exacerbated after the US announced earlier this month that it would stop sharing air quality data gathered from its embassies and consulates worldwide due to “funding constraints” the Associated Press reported.
Fuckin' DOUCHE.
“Air quality data saves lives,” said Hammes.

“It creates much needed awareness, informs policy decisions, guiding public health interventions, and empowers communities to take action to reduce air pollution and protect future generations.”

Only 17% of 8,954 cities analyzed globally by IQAir recorded air quality which met WHO pollution guidelines, the report said.

The cities with the worst air pollution in North America were Ontario, Bloomington and Huntington Park – all in California, the report said.

Overall the United States saw a significant reduction in PM2.5 levels last year, with the annual average dropping 22% from 2023.
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... Only 12 countries, regions, and territories recorded PM2.5 concentrations below the WHO guidelines, most of which were in the Latin America and Caribbean or Oceania region....
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-- Howard Zinn, 2004
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Well, I guess that blows Chad off my list of where I might have to flee to when the rubber meets the road. Jamaica moved up.

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