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Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:18 am
This is a really long read, but very interesting.

A man spent years infiltrating a popular militia movement, eventually gaining a leadership position. He leaked all of his data - recordings, emails, etc, to reporters.

https://www.propublica.org/article/ap3- ... litia-mole
Thanks!

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Summary: Terrorism

Hi,

I think it's a deplorable abuse for an Ohio OB-GYN who used to work for the Cleveland Clinic, and who leads a subsidiary of UnitedHealth Group, to be on the national board of directors of the violent White supremacist terrorist Oath Keepers.
https://www.propublica.org/article/ap3- ... litia-mole

You must fire him NOW and apologize to your investors, customers and the public.

Sincerely,
(real name and contact info)
Damn, I'm good. Fta:
... (The doctor did not respond to requests for comment. He has since left his post with the UnitedHealth subsidiary, a spokesperson for the company said.)
:lol: Didn't even need to click 'Submit' :wave: . More seriously, I should have read further first :oops: . Glad that I did before sending, phew.
... Two months later, Williams published an anonymous essay. He revealed that he’d infiltrated the group as an “independent activist” and had sent me files. He wanted to test how the militia would respond to news of a mole.

The result was something he long had hoped for: a wave of paranoia inside AP3. “It’s a fucking risky thing we get involved in,” Seddon, the group’s founder, said in a private message. “Fucking trust nobody. There’s fucking turncoats everywhere.” (Seddon declined to comment for this story. He then sent a short follow-up email: “MAGA.”)

Sowing that distrust is why Williams is going on the record, albeit without his original name. He still plans to release thousands of files after this article is published — evidence tying sheriffs and police officers to the movement, his proudest coup, plus other records he hopes could become ammo for lawsuits. But Williams wants to let his former comrades know “a faggot is doing this to them.” He thinks his story could be his most effective weapon.

Every time militia members make a phone call, attend a meeting or go to a gun range together, he wants them “to be thinking, in the back of their heads, ‘This guy will betray me.’”
:clap: :-||

Joshua Kaplan's investigation into AP3:

Armed and Underground: Inside the Turbulent, Secret World of an American Militia

I haven't read it yet. He's a brave dude.
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Amerika.
This Aggressive Baby Name Trend Is 'Alarming' Experts
"It’s rare for me to outright reject a name or name trend, but ... "


... “There is a small but noticeable trend of parents using weapons-inspired ― and, more broadly, aggressive ― names for their sons,” Sophie Kihm, the editor-in-chief at the website Nameberry, told HuffPost. “Many of these names first appeared on the baby name charts in the 2000s, including Wesson, Caliber, Shooter and Trigger.”

Weapon-inspired monikers that parents have chosen in recent years also include Blade and Cannon, as well as brand-related names like Remington, Colt, Ruger and Winchester. Arson, Cutter and Dagger are among the other names with a violent edge in recent data from the Social Security Administration.

“Most of these names peaked in use relatively recently — Wesson in 2021 when it was used 306 times, Caliber in 2018 with 24 uses, Mace in 2022 with 64 uses, Dagger in 2022 with 13 uses,” Kihm noted. “It’s hard to say if these names have truly peaked in use or if some will go on to greater use, but I don’t think we’re past this trend yet!”

Abby Sandel, the creator of the baby name blog Appellation Mountain, believes the trend will evolve over time....

Why are parents drawn to these kinds of names?

... For some parents, the appeal of such names may also be tied up in conservative values around gender or guns.

BabyNames.com founder Jennifer Moss believes some parents are drawn to weapon names for their sons because they feel “threatened” by recent cultural shifts toward broader acceptance of gender identities and expressions outside the traditional gender binary.

“Assigning these overly violent names might be a reaction to the fear that their son might have less-than-masculine traits,” she said. “So these parents assign a dictionary word name that has been traditionally associated with aggression or strength, hoping to instill those characteristics into their male offspring.”

“Weapons-inspired names convey masculinity without being traditional male names,” Kihm added. “They are at once undeniably masculine and extremely modern. We associate weapons with men and masculinity, so these parents might have more conservative values around gender.”

She pointed to Nameberry’s analysis of “The Reddest and Bluest Baby Names,” which found that parents living in so-called red states are more likely to choose gun-themed names for their children.

“In our study, we identified Gunner ― notably spelled with an ‘er,’ which differentiates it from the Scandinavian Gunnar ― as the ninth ‘reddest’ name for boys in the U.S.,” Kihm said.
Ironically, these parents that feel threatened and are so fearful that they compensate with tough-sounding names for their innocent baby boys are wimps. Johnny Cash would be ashamed.
... “Some of the most obvious choices are clearly more popular in red states,” Sandel said. “Think Maverick or Walker ― the fictional Texas lawman of television fame. That’s true for weapons-related names, too. You’re more likely to meet a newborn Remington or Gatlin in Texas or Alabama, rather than California or Maryland.”

What do baby name experts think of this trend?

“It’s rare for me to outright reject a name or name trend, but I cannot get behind weapon-inspired names,” Kihm said. “They glamorize violence and, particularly in the wake of so much violence in the U.S., feel out of touch. In name consulting, I’ve never encountered a parent who wants to use these names, but I would advise any client against it.”

... “I find the weapon names particularly alarming because it’s tying your child to an instrument of destruction or death ― or at the least a word that’s associated with violence,” Moss said. “Another reason not to use a name with an immediately identifiable meaning is that it can become a joke. People’s first response might be to laugh at it, or assume that you do belong to a particular culture that favors weaponry or violence. It comes with baggage.”
:thumbup:
... Although distinctive names can be great, she noted that Beretta is both uncommon as a given name and immediately recognizable for its association with weapons, lending it an aggressive feel that might be a burden on a child....
Just DON'T do it.
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Amerika. :o TIL:
Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation that originated within the US Department of Defense of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for CIA operatives to both stage and commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets, blame them on the Cuban government, and use them to justify a war against Cuba. The possibilities detailed in the document included the remote control of civilian aircraft which would be secretly repainted as US Air Force planes, a fabricated 'shoot down' of a US Air Force fighter aircraft off the coast of Cuba, the possible assassination of Cuban immigrants, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating terrorism in U.S. cities. The proposals were rejected by President John F. Kennedy.

... The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming the Cuban government for terrorist acts that would be perpetrated by the U.S. government. To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of false evidence that would implicate the Cuban government....

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington", which involved the bombing of civilian targets, which was to be blamed on the Cuban government to paint a false image of Fidel Castro and misinform the American public.
This was not some fringe scheming:
The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense....
Traitors, wannabe terrorists. 35 years :roll: later:
... The previously secret document was originally made public on 18 November 1997, by the John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Review Board, a U.S. federal agency overseeing the release of government records related to John F. Kennedy's assassination....

The Northwoods document was published online in a more complete form, including cover memoranda, by the National Security Archive on 30 April 2001.
By this point most of the evil perpetrators were dead or too old to hold accountable.

At the same, actual terrorism was being carried out by the US. This, I was aware of:
The Cuban Project, also known as Operation Mongoose, was an extensive campaign of terrorist attacks against civilians, and covert operations, carried out by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency in Cuba. It was officially authorized on November 30, 1961, by U.S. President John F. Kennedy.

Execution

... Historian Stephen Rabe writes that "scholars have understandably focused on...the Bay of Pigs invasion, the US campaign of terrorism and sabotage known as Operation Mongoose, the assassination plots against Fidel Castro, and, of course, the Cuban Missile Crisis. Less attention has been given to the state of US-Cuban relations in the aftermath of the missile crisis." Rabe writes that reports from the Church Committee reveal that from June 1963 onward, the Kennedy administration intensified its war against Cuba while the CIA integrated propaganda, economic denial, and sabotage to attack the Cuban state as well as specific targets within. One example cited is an incident where CIA agents, seeking to assassinate Castro, provided a Cuban official, Rolando Cubela Secades, with a ballpoint pen rigged with a poisonous hypodermic needle. At this time, the CIA received authorization for 13 major operations in Cuba, including attacks on an electric power plant, an oil refinery, and a sugar mill.  Rabe has argued that the "Kennedy administration... showed no interest in Castro's repeated request that the United States cease its campaign of sabotage and terrorism against Cuba. Kennedy did not pursue a dual-track policy toward Cuba... The United States would entertain only proposals of surrender." Rabe further documents how "Exile groups, such as Alpha 66 and the Second Front of Escambray, staged hit-and-run raids on the island... on ships transporting goods…purchased arms in the United States and launched...attacks from the Bahamas." 

Harvard Historian Jorge Domínguez states that Operation Mongoose's scope included sabotage actions against a railway bridge, petroleum storage facilities, a molasses storage container, a petroleum refinery, a power plant, a sawmill, and a floating crane. Domínguez states that "only once in [the] thousand pages of documentation did a US official raise something that resembled a faint moral objection to US government-sponsored terrorism."  Actions were subsequently carried out against a petroleum refinery, a power plant, a sawmill, and a floating crane in a Cuban harbor to undermine the Cuban economy....

Dominguez writes that Kennedy put a hold on Mongoose's actions as the Cuban Missile Crisis escalated (as pictures of Soviet nuclear weapons stationed on the north shore of Cuba were obtained by American intelligence via satellite reconnaissance), but "returned to its policy of sponsoring terrorism against Cuba as the confrontation with the Soviet Union lessened."  However, Noam Chomsky has argued that "terrorist operations continued through the tensest moments of the missile crisis", remarking that "they were formally canceled on October 30, several days after the Kennedy and Khrushchev agreement, but went on nonetheless". Accordingly, "the Executive Committee of the National Security Council recommended various courses of action, "including ‘using selected Cuban exiles to sabotage key Cuban installations in such a manner that the action could plausibly be attributed to Cubans in Cuba’ as well as ‘sabotaging Cuban cargo and shipping, and [Soviet] Bloc cargo and shipping to Cuba.

... Operation Mongoose formally ceased its activities at the end of 1962....
Murderers. Terrorists. Much of this was kept secret until:
Legacy

... In 1975, a Senate committee led by Senator Frank Church (Idaho-Democrat), investigating alleged abuses perpetrated by the United States intelligence community, issued the first in a total of fourteen reports entitled "Alleged Assassination Plots Involving Foreign Leaders."...
:ateeth: Funny that we designated Cuba a "terrorist state" for so long. Mirror.
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Amerika.
Nashville school shooting suspect allegedly praised mass shooters, extremist views
The Antioch High School shooting left one student killed and another injured.


... According to a detailed analysis conducted by SITE Intelligence, the suspected shooter praised mass shooters and showed an affinity for extremist views.

Online material allegedly written by Henderson "detailed the individual's apparent far-right politics, shaped by fringe online forums," SITE reported.

"Henderson was highly in fringe online communities, including several known neo-Nazi venues. Across these sites and his writings, Henderson expressed admiration for far-right and incel mass shooters," SITE reported.

According to the intelligence group, Henderson claimed online that the school shooter in the Abundance Life Christian School attack in December, Samantha Rupnow, followed him on his X accounts. Additionally, documents online allegedly written by Henderson "detail his admiration" of Christchurch, New Zealand shooter Brenton Tarrant, the suspect in the Slovakian gay bar shooting in 2022 and other mass shooters, according to SITE.

The intelligence group reported that Henderson also appeared to "post photos of himself in attire commonly associated with neo-Nazis."
Figures.
... Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee wrote on social media, "I’ve been briefed on the incident at Antioch High School and am grateful for law enforcement & first responders who responded quickly. ... I join Tennesseans in praying for the victims, their families & the school community."...
What, no "thoughts" from the RW ammosexual Tennessee Gov?
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Vrede too wrote:
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On the bright side, Mr. Czuba will not be voting for trump.

Czuba
Polish:: nickname from czub 'hair on top of the head'. nickname for a quarrelsome person from czubic się 'to quarrel'.
USAF veteran :roll: , another terrorist trained by our own military. Some days I don't even trust O Really and neoplacebo all that much.
:o :problem: :P :P
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I dunno about neoplacebo, but if O Really went berserk the worst he could do from his "military" training would be to hack your Spotify account.
:shock: We know how good you are at finding people, too.

Noooo, not that! You are a cruel cruel terrorist. A lifetime condemned to opera and country is not a life.
Landlord Found Guilty Of Murder, Hate Crime In 2023 Attack On Palestinian American Boy
A jury has found 73-year-old Joseph Czuba guilty in the hate crime attack that left 6-year-old Wadee Alfayoumi dead and injured his mother.


... Joseph Czuba, 73, was charged in the fatal stabbing of Wadee Alfayoumi and the wounding of his mother, Hanan Shaheen on Oct. 14, 2023 in Plainfield, about 40 miles (64 kilometers) from Chicago. Authorities alleged the family was targeted because of their Islamic faith and as a response to the war between Israel and Hamas that erupted on Oct. 7, 2023.

Jurors deliberated less than 90 minutes before returning with the verdict.
:---P x < 90.
“I don’t know if I should be pleased or upset, if I should be crying or laughing,” Wadee’s father, Odai Alfayoumi, said at a news conference, speaking in Arabic. “People are telling me to smile. Maybe if I were one of you, I would be smiling, but I’m the father of the child and I’ve lost the child. And I feel like this decision came to a little too late.”
:cry:
Ben Crump, the national civil rights attorney representing Shaheen, released a statement calling the verdict a “measure of justice.”

“Wadee was an innocent six-year-old child whose life was stolen in an act of unimaginable violence fueled by hatred,” the statement added. “While we are relieved that his killer has been held accountable, we must continue to stand against the rising tide of hate that led to this senseless act. We must honor Wadee’s memory by continuing to fight against hate in all its forms and working toward a future where every child is safe, valued, and free from violence.”
:thumbup: I won't hold my breath, though.
... Czuba is scheduled for sentencing on May 2, according to the Will County Circuit Clerk’s office.
Throw away the key!
... Then after the start of the war, Czuba told her that they had to move out because Muslims were not welcome. Later, he confronted Shaheen and attacked her, holding her down, stabbing her and trying to break her teeth.

“He told me ’You, as a Muslim, must die,” said Shaheen, who testified in English and Arabic though a translator.

Shaheen had more than a dozen stab wounds and it took her weeks to recover. The boy was later pronounced dead.
:o :o :cry:
... “All of us who are parents, who are Arab or Palestinian … who are Muslim, we all saw our children die in Wadee Alfayoumi, because this could have been any one of our boys, any one of our girls,” CAIR-Chicago’s Rehab said. “It just so happened that it was Wadee Alfayoumi. When he was targeted, all of our children were targeted. Every Muslim was targeted when he (Czuba) yelled, ‘All Muslims must die.’”
:ateeth:
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Hah. The only "military training" I ever had was in boot camp....lining up and marching to the mess hall, physical exercise, and cursory training shooting a rifle. After that, all my training was at navy schools in the organization and functioning of the naval logistics system. Once in the fleet, I was basically the book keeper on two different surface ships. When I has to stand quarterdeck watch while in port, I carried a .45 Colt pistol in one of those wide white canvas belts....never received any training to speak of regarding the pistol. And while carrying that pistol while on watch, it was not loaded; the two ammo clips for the gun were kept in a separate pouch on the opposite side of the while belt from the pistol, which means that anyone coming up the boarding ramp who had a loaded gun could have gotten the drop on me and killed me, the officer of the deck, and the messenger before I could have loaded my pistol. But I did once order two riot shotguns for the ship's intruder alert force. Had no training on those either; just looked up the stock number for them in a big book and ordered them.

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Hah. The only "military training" I ever had was in boot camp....lining up and marching to the mess hall, physical exercise, and cursory training shooting a rifle.

Looks like there's an opportunity for paramilitary training at the sort of nearby Patriot Front neonazi compound at Tellico Plains, Tennessee, between Knoxville and Chattanooga. You lucky dog. :o :sick:


Inside the influential hate group that's expanding in Tennessee

Sieg heil. :obscene-birdiered:
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neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:23 am
Hah. The only "military training" I ever had was in boot camp....lining up and marching to the mess hall, physical exercise, and cursory training shooting a rifle.

Looks like there's an opportunity for paramilitary training at the sort of nearby Patriot Front neonazi compound at Tellico Plains, Tennessee, between Knoxville and Chattanooga. You lucky dog. :o :sick:


Sieg heil. :obscene-birdiered:
What a bunch of shitheads. :puke-left: At least they're hundreds of miles from me.

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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:18 pm
Looks like there's an opportunity for paramilitary training at the sort of nearby Patriot Front neonazi compound at Tellico Plains, Tennessee, between Knoxville and Chattanooga. You lucky dog. :o :sick:

Sieg heil. :obscene-birdiered:
What a bunch of shitheads. :puke-left: At least they're hundreds of miles from me.
Future recruits:
12-year-old accused of a hate crime after two Muslim students are attacked at their Connecticut middle school

A 12-year-old student is facing a hate crime charge in juvenile court after allegedly being part of a group that attacked twin seventh grade Muslim students at their middle school in Waterbury, Connecticut, authorities said Friday.

The girl allegedly involved in the altercation was charged with intimidation based on bigotry and bias in the first and second degree through a court-issued summons to juvenile court.

“Investigators determined that the altercation was motivated by religion and/or ethnicity, meeting the legal definition of a hate crime,” according to a joint statement by the Waterbury State’s Attorney’s Office, Waterbury police and city officials....

The incident, which unfolded during Ramadan, the Islamic holy month, comes as Muslims report a record-high number of anti-Arab and Islamophobic bias in the United States.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations in its annual civil rights report released last week said it received 8,658 complaints of Islamophobia last year – the highest number ever recorded by the organization.
12-years-old, Amerika. :angry-banghead: :cry:
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Trump Says Jan. 6 Rioters Were Nothing Like Those 'Terrorist' Tesla Vandals

... “I view these people as terrorists just like others,” Trump said of the Tesla vandals.

“When I looked at those showrooms burning, and those cars — not one or two, like seven, eight, 10 burning, exploding all over the place — these are terrorists,” he said.

“You didn’t have that on Jan. 6, I can tell you. You didn’t have anything like that Jan. 6,” Trump went on, referring to the 2021 riot that left several people dead....
Have any showrooms been torched or is DonOLD lying again? Anyhow :wtf: , J6 WAS deadly terrorism, duh.
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Trump Says Jan. 6 Rioters Were Nothing Like Those 'Terrorist' Tesla Vandals

... “I view these people as terrorists just like others,” Trump said of the Tesla vandals.

“When I looked at those showrooms burning, and those cars — not one or two, like seven, eight, 10 burning, exploding all over the place — these are terrorists,” he said.

“You didn’t have that on Jan. 6, I can tell you. You didn’t have anything like that Jan. 6,” Trump went on, referring to the 2021 riot that left several people dead....
Have any showrooms been torched or is DonOLD lying again? Anyhow :wtf: , J6 WAS deadly terrorism, duh.
Helll, I guess the juvenile moron is right; it was a "day of love" because it was love for him. What a world

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