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In contrast:
Pro-RFK Jr. letter to the Senate includes names of doctors whose licenses were revoked or suspended

A letter submitted to the U.S. Senate that states it was sent by physicians in support of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination as secretary of Health and Human Services includes the names of doctors who have had their licenses revoked, suspended or faced other discipline, The Associated Press has found.

The letter was meant to lend credibility to Kennedy’s nomination, which has faced strenuous opposition from medical experts due to his two decades of anti-vaccine activism. Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, a medical doctor who boasts on his official website of an effort he created to vaccinate 36,000 children against hepatitis B, expressed hesitancy about Kennedy's nomination and is seen as a key vote.

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RFK Jr. appears on his way to being Trump's health secretary after a party-line vote

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. appears likely to soon be taking the helm as Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. The Senate Finance committee voted along party lines, 14-13, to favorably report his nomination to the full Senate.

A vote to confirm him likely will happen in the coming days or perhaps next week....

Senator Bill Cassidy, R.-La., cast a key vote in favor of Kennedy. A physician, Cassidy spoke in personal terms during hearings last week about his experiences with patients who suffered from lifelong health consequences because they were unvaccinated. He indicated on Thursday he was "struggling" with the decision, but ultimately voted in Kennedy's favor.

On social media Tuesday, Cassidy posted: "I've had very intense conversations with Bobby and the White House over the weekend and even this morning. I want to thank VP JD [Vance] specifically for his honest counsel," he wrote. He added that he decided to vote in favor of Kennedy after receiving commitments from the Trump administration and "the opportunity to make progress on the issues we agree on like healthy foods and a pro-American agenda."...
:bs: Cassidy is a coward who got bullied by MAGA.

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"... commitments from the Trump administration..." :lol: :lol: :roll:

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"... commitments from the Trump administration..." :lol: :lol: :roll:
Pronouncements from the Trump administration*..." :lol: :lol: :roll:
RFK Jr.'s Stunning Claim About Black People And Vaccines Sparks Concern From Medical Experts
Experts weigh in on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s controversial take and what they want everyone to know.


From COVID-19 conspiracy theories to confusion on the facts about Medicare and Medicaid to refusing to say that vaccines aren’t linked to autism, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s February confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill were anything but smooth for someone who is hoping to lead the Department of Health and Human Services.

While his history of anti-vaccine remarks was a major talking point throughout the hearings, his beliefs were also front and center during a heated exchange in which Sen. Angela Alsobrooks (D-Md.) brought up a comment that Kennedy once made about vaccinations and the Black community.

In 2021, Kennedy had said, “We should not be giving Black people the same vaccine schedule that’s given to whites, because their immune system is better than ours.”

Alsobrooks asked Kennedy to explain what he meant by that remark, and he went on to reference a “series of studies” while saying research shows that “Blacks need fewer antigens.” (For the record, experts say that this is not true.)

“Right now, how vaccine schedules are tailored is based on things like your age, your exposure risk, if you have other chronic underlying health conditions ― but race isn’t one of them, and there isn’t research that suggests that it should be,” Joel Bervell, a recent medical graduate and medical myth-buster on social media, told HuffPost.

What especially bothered Bervell about Kennedy’s exchange with Alsobrooks was the fact that he doubled down on his comment from 2021.

Kennedy could have used this as an opportunity to admit that he needs to do more research and understand the vaccine schedule, “but instead, he defended what he said, which I think, for me, that’s where the problem lies in,” Bervell told HuffPost. “Not necessarily the fact of the misinformation is out there, but the fact that he wasn’t willing to at least confront it or admit that onstage.”

Below, experts like Bervell share their concerns about Kennedy’s statement and how it reflects a larger problematic picture:

Kennedy’s comment can be considered ‘scientific racism,’ experts say.

“In medicine, in science, we know that race is a social construct, meaning that you can’t look at someone’s genes and identify what race they are,” Bervell said.

That means differences in vaccine timelines just don’t make scientific sense.

“The comment that [Kennedy] made about the vaccine schedule, it’s basically scientific racism, which has been debunked,” Dr. Oni Blackstock, a primary care and HIV physician who is the founder and executive director of Health Justice, a racial and health equity consulting company, told HuffPost.

“He’s really perpetuating this false belief that Black people are somehow biologically different from white people and, in that way, justifying differential and ultimately unequal treatment for Black people versus white people,” Blackstock added.

“By saying that, he was putting on one of the larger stages in health care this notion that race-based medicine should still exist, when that’s actually what many scientists recently have been trying to root out,” Bervell said.

Race-based medicine and scientific racism has led to undertreatment of Black patients, dismissal of pain and even death, Blackstock stressed....

Such stances may lead to more mistrust in the health care system.

... Bervell said comments like those from Kennedy can sow vaccine hesitancy in the Black population, which is dangerous and can erode trust in evidence-based medicine.

... With misinformation and scare tactics rampant on social media, misinformation from government leaders will only make it harder to tell what’s real and what’s fake in medicine. Trust needs to be paramount for health care as an institution, Bervell said.

Experts say this rhetoric aligns with messaging from Donald Trump.

... “It echoes some of the rhetoric that [Trump] has shared around eugenics and immigrants,” Blackstock said. “He’s talked about immigrants having ‘bad genes’ or ‘poisoning the blood of our country.’ It just speaks to this idea of racial purity or genetic purity, and this false idea that certain groups of people are inherently inferior or predisposed to certain behaviors because of their genetics.”


... Blackstock added that she thinks individuals get away with this kind of rhetoric because people become accustomed to outlandish comments and bad behavior.

“But we need to really flag this and say this is really dangerous and really concerning rhetoric that can have real health implications,” Blackstock said.
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RFK Jr. Takes a Sledgehammer to Two Major Vaccine Developments

:o :angry-banghead: KINO/PINO may end up being a couple of our most prolific murderers. :cry:
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How contagious is measles?
90% of the unvaccinated who come in contact with it will get sick. :o
People may be contagious for 2 weeks before exhibiting symptoms. Wow.
Don't just focus on deaths. Complications can be severe, including permanent brain damage.
The vaccine we boomers got did not confer lifetime immunity. A single adult booster is necessary. This has been known for decades, so most or all of us are probably caught up.

KINO is an asshole.
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He might might do some good along the way:
RFK Jr. drops threat on major food corporations — and shoppers may soon see the impact

A major push to clean up ingredients in American foods is underway as part of what the Guardian has called "a bipartisan movement," and it could potentially mean a big win for public health.

In a recent meeting with top food executives, per CNBC, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made it clear: The time to ditch artificial food dyes is now.

Kennedy emphasized that removing these additives is a priority, stating that he is willing to take action if companies refuse to respond proactively. The meeting brought together CEOs from PepsiCo North America, Kraft Heinz, General Mills, Tyson Foods, and other industry giants....
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"Might" do something good, but it won't be nearly enough to make up for the damage.

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Eamus Catuli~AC 000000 000101 010202 020303 010304 020405....Ahhhh, forget it, it's gonna be a while.


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"millionaire husband" - Surprise, surprise. Notice that no one ever falls for a much older poor person? Nicholas Riccio - 'Rich' is practically in his name. He's 59. Karoline has her early retirement and next marriage/boyfriends all sorted out.
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"Might" do something good, but it won't be nearly enough to make up for the damage.
:thumbup: You're in good company ;) :
RFK Jr. ‘already vindicating his critics’: Wall Street Journal

... “Our worst fears about Mr. Kennedy are coming true.”
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Amateur hour at HHS:
RFK Jr. Realizes He's Made a Huge Mistake

... Roughly 20,000 of the department's 82,000 full-time employees ended up on the chopping block. Around 10,000 have been laid off, with the rest being taking either early retirements or buyouts, according to the announcement.

But it's looking like Kennedy moved too hastily, firing important workers who even he admits were actually needed.

"Personnel that should not have been cut were cut," he told reporters this week, as quoted by CBS News. "We're reinstating them."

Bafflingly, he defended the unprofessional screwup.

"And that was always the plan," Kennedy added. "Part of the DOGE, we talked about this from the beginning, is we're going to do 80 percent cuts, but 20 percent of those are going to have to be reinstated, because we'll make mistakes."
:wtf: Planned amateurism?
... It's a precarious situation, especially given the ongoing measles outbreak. As the New York Times reported late last month, ill-informed measles patients were experiencing complications after following Kennedy's advice to take large amounts of Vitamin A....
Moron. Some liver damage is permanent.
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Morons are offended.

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Morons are offended.
:lol: As well they should be. I'll try to be more sensitive.

Man Who Believes Poppers Cause AIDS Is Planning to Gut America's HIV Prevention Office

My SiL was working on HIV prevention research, but with CDC rather than NIH. Not sure if she still is. I've written to see how she's doing and to make sure she knows about:



My Mom (NIMH) saw cutbacks and leadership changes under Reagan and eventually retired in disgust, but it was nothing as drastic as under DonOLD and KINO.
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My SiL was working on HIV prevention research, but with CDC rather than NIH. Not sure if she still is. I've written to see how she's doing and to make sure she knows about: (Hands Off)
(KINO) is a miserable vomitous slime. I could throw up whenever he is near a microphone.

So many awesome protests. Loved it that towns from NYC to Nowhere got involved but there’s a looooong fight ahead. I’m so tired and depressed that I just want to sleep till 2029. But that won’t help....
:think: I'm not sure how she really feels.
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Apparently Cheryl really likes being humiliated by all sorts of assholes.

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Apparently Cheryl really likes being humiliated by all sorts of assholes.

https://x.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1911407695661244763
Trump’s Cringeworthy Cheryl Hines Snub Sparks MAGA Meltdown

... “Cheryl Hines getting blown off for a handshake by President Trump is just missing the Curb music,” ...

While Trump eventually circled back to greet her, the awkward episode shone fresh light on the rift between the pair.
Is that rubbing it in that the snub was deliberate and that he has the power to grant favor or not?
The actress has in the past made little secret of her disdain toward the president and, in particular, his attitude toward women.

She previously took aim at Trump for his disparaging comments about Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s wife, referring to the president’s statements as “ridiculous and disrespectful.”
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While some online commentators revelled in the cringeworthy moment, others were quick to rush to the president’s defense.

“This is for everyone pushing the “He snubbed her” BS,” one person wrote. “President Trump was simply distracted before shaking Joe Rogan’s hand and immediately went back to shake Cheryl Hines hand.”

“Let’s just face it? People who dislike President Trump, LOOK for anything & everything for criticism,” another added. “I’m sure, Cheryl Hines criticism of President Trump IS BENIGN as compared to MSM, & Dems. Cheryl Hines will get over the “SUPPOSED SLIGHT”.”
:bs: :bs: The MAGA excuse-making ALWAYS shows up. PINO looked her in the eye and blew off the handshake.
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KINO is an ignorant asshole, again:
Parents react to RFK Jr.'s child autism press conference: ‘When there is ignorance, that breeds fear’
The Health and Human Services secretary drew criticism for his description of autism as a preventable condition that “destroys families.”


... "Autism destroys families, and more importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which is our children. These are children who should not be suffering like this," Kennedy said. "These are kids who will never pay taxes, they'll never hold a job, they'll never play baseball, they'll never write a poem, they'll never go out on a date. Many of them will never use a toilet unassisted."

This characterization quickly prompted backlash from parents of autistic children, many of whom took to social media to condemn Kennedy’s comments.

“My 27-year-old son with autism didn’t ‘destroy our family’ — he gave us purpose and unity,” actress and activist Holly Robinson Peete posted on X. “Oh, and he pays taxes.”

... Eric Garcia, a reporter for the Independent who was at Kennedy’s press conference and was diagnosed with autism around 1994, told Yahoo News that he worried Kennedy’s framing of autism as an “epidemic” could negatively influence the public’s perception of it, creating more fear than understanding.

“Autism should be classified as a disability, not an illness,” Garcia said. “Autism is not good or bad, it’s a way of being.”

... “It’s a horrible message to all,” Garcia said about Kennedy’s speech, “not only to autistic people, but to all of the parents who love and cherish and value their children and don’t see their children as a tragedy. This shouldn’t be a moment of fear. This should be a moment of action.”

... Jennifer Cook, an author and on-camera expert for the Netflix show Love on the Spectrum, told Yahoo News she was not surprised that, for some parents of autistic children, Kennedy’s comments may have tapped into their own questions and fears about their child’s diagnosis.

... Still, Cook says she takes issue with Kennedy’s negative characterization of the impact an autism diagnosis can have on a child and their family, noting that “Kennedy is not bringing any autistic stakeholders into the conversation.”

“When there is ignorance, that breeds fear,” she said.
Hey KINO, fuck off.
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Too little too late.

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Too little too late.

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I'm pretty sure RFK and the rest of the MAGAts don't care what Elizabeth has to say.

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