The Religion Thread

[GoCubsGo]

"never, ever" GoCubsGo just converted back from Catholicism. GoPopeSoxGo!

NoPopeNo!

[Vrede too]

"never, ever" GoCubsGo just converted back from Catholicism. GoPopeSoxGo!

NoPopeNo!

The 12-29 White Sox need all the help they can get.

Was this sinful?

Pope Leo XIV Sparks 'Insanely Large' Payouts on Small Bets

... One bet slip from Kalshi showed Leo's chance at becoming pope at just 1 percent. The payout for the $274 bet was a whopping $27,496.

Another $120 bet led to a $12,000 payout for Leo's selection....

A different article:

... Prevost had odds of less than 1 percent on the online betting site Kalshi, so some of those who placed longshot bets on Prevost becoming pope saw massive payouts. One bettor who took the gamble turned a $526 wager into $52,641....

Is this what they mean by "prosperity gospel"? Is it mandatory to tithe?

[Vrede too]

https://x.com/Pontifex

Pope Leo XIV
May 14

The Holy See is willing to help enemies meet, so they may look each other in the eye and so people may be given back the dignity they deserve: the dignity of peace. With heart in hand, I say to the leaders of nations: let us meet; let us dialogue; let us negotiate!

Pope Leo XIV
May 14

Christ's peace is not the silence of the tomb after a conflict, and it is not the result of subjugation. Peace is a gift that gazes at others and renews their lives. Let us pray for this peace, which is reconciliation, forgiveness, and courage to turn the page and start again.

Pope Leo XIV
May 14

There is so much violence and so many wars in our world! Amid this horror that should provoke outrage—as people die in the name of military conquest—stands the call of Christ, who repeats: ‘Peace be with you!’

Pope Leo XIV
May 14

Peace be with you all! This is the first greeting spoken by the Risen Christ, the Good Shepherd. I would like this greeting of peace to resound in your hearts, in your families, and among all people, wherever they may be, in every nation and throughout the world.

More at the link. Article

[Vrede too]

Couple Loses Arms While Hunkering Down in Tornado: ‘They Were Holding Each Other'
"I cannot imagine the fear that was going through their minds," Taylor Baker said of her uncle and aunt Paul and Gail Cline

A couple have both lost an arm as they were sheltering inside their Kentucky home that was devastated by a tornado last week, according to their relatives.

“The doctors said that they lost opposite arms is because they were holding each other,” Brandy Bowman told NBC affiliate WLEX about her uncle and aunt, Paul and Gail Cline, who are in their 60s and from Laurel County.

Bowman said that Paul and Gail were in their bedroom when the twister touched down on Friday, May 16. A neighbor heard the couple screaming for help, arrived at their house and pulled them into a hallway, she said.

The family said a person heard Gail’s screams while searching for survivors in the neighborhood.

"She said, 'I need help. I see an arm down the hallway,’" Bowman recalled, which turned out to be Gail’s damaged arm as a result of the tornado.

The Clines were taken to London Hospital, WLEX reported. In a GoFundMe established to help the family, Gail, who also has a punctured lung due to fragments in her ribs, is on life support.

“Their home and vehicles and everything they’ve worked for is gone,” Taylor Baker, the couple's other niece, wrote about her uncle and aunt in the fundraiser description. “They are two of the best people you could ever find. My aunt’s daughter also has stage 4 cancer so they were already battling that before this hit. They need all the help and prayers they can get.”

While Paul’s condition has improved, Baker told WLEX that her uncle has dementia and hasn’t grasped the ordeal.

"All I can't get out of my head is just how terrified they both were. I cannot imagine the fear that was going through their minds, but there's one thing about them, they are godly people," Baker said....

Must have been/still is awful for them, but that godly thing isn't working out very well.

[Vrede too]

Faithful xtian, Fort Pierce, Florida:

6-year-old boy killed during alleged exorcism, mother charged with murder: Sheriff
Authorities responded to the home after his school requested a welfare check.

[GoCubsGo]

No Pope is perfect.

[Vrede too]

No Pope is perfect.

https://x.com/JomboyMedia/status/1933215318786068815

They're infallible, heathen.


Are we going to have this fight again?

Southern Baptists vote to endorse a ban on gay marriage

Southern Baptists overwhelmingly endorsed a ban on gay marriage — including a call for a reversal of the U.S. Supreme Court’s 10-year-old precedent legalizing it nationwide.

They also called for legislators to curtail sports betting and to support policies that promote childbearing.

The votes came at the gathering of more than 10,000 church representatives at the annual meeting of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination.

, bigots.

... Several abuse survivors and advocates for reform, who previously had a prominent presence in recent SBC meetings, are skipping this year’s gathering, citing lack of progress by the convention.

Figures

... It is the latest instance of “officials trailing out hollow words, impotent task forces and phony dog-and-pony shows of reform,” abuse survivor and longtime advocate Christa Brown wrote on Baptist News Global, which is not SBC-affiliated.

In a related action, the Executive Committee will also be seeking $3 million in convention funding for ongoing legal expenses related to abuse cases....

Messengers will also debate whether to institute a constitutional ban on churches with women pastors and to abolish its public-policy arm, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission — which is staunchly conservative, but according to critics, not enough so.

[Supsalemgr]

No Pope is perfect.

https://x.com/JomboyMedia/status/1933215318786068815

They're infallible, heathen.


Are we going to have this fight again?

Southern Baptists vote to endorse a ban on gay marriage

Southern Baptists overwhelmingly endorsed a ban on gay marriage — including a call for a reversal of the U.S. Supreme Court’s 10-year-old precedent legalizing it nationwide.

They also called for legislators to curtail sports betting and to support policies that promote childbearing.

The votes came at the gathering of more than 10,000 church representatives at the annual meeting of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination.

, bigots.

... Several abuse survivors and advocates for reform, who previously had a prominent presence in recent SBC meetings, are skipping this year’s gathering, citing lack of progress by the convention.

Figures

... It is the latest instance of “officials trailing out hollow words, impotent task forces and phony dog-and-pony shows of reform,” abuse survivor and longtime advocate Christa Brown wrote on Baptist News Global, which is not SBC-affiliated.

In a related action, the Executive Committee will also be seeking $3 million in convention funding for ongoing legal expenses related to abuse cases....

Messengers will also debate whether to institute a constitutional ban on churches with women pastors and to abolish its public-policy arm, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission — which is staunchly conservative, but according to critics, not enough so.

I don't have a position on gay marriage as folks should be able to make their own decision. The same for the SBC. They are entitled to their own position and there are plenty of other denominations for those who not agree with their position.

[neoplacebo]

No Pope is perfect.

https://x.com/JomboyMedia/status/1933215318786068815

They're infallible, heathen.


Are we going to have this fight again?

Southern Baptists vote to endorse a ban on gay marriage

Southern Baptists overwhelmingly endorsed a ban on gay marriage — including a call for a reversal of the U.S. Supreme Court’s 10-year-old precedent legalizing it nationwide.

They also called for legislators to curtail sports betting and to support policies that promote childbearing.

The votes came at the gathering of more than 10,000 church representatives at the annual meeting of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination.

, bigots.

... Several abuse survivors and advocates for reform, who previously had a prominent presence in recent SBC meetings, are skipping this year’s gathering, citing lack of progress by the convention.

Figures

... It is the latest instance of “officials trailing out hollow words, impotent task forces and phony dog-and-pony shows of reform,” abuse survivor and longtime advocate Christa Brown wrote on Baptist News Global, which is not SBC-affiliated.

In a related action, the Executive Committee will also be seeking $3 million in convention funding for ongoing legal expenses related to abuse cases....

Messengers will also debate whether to institute a constitutional ban on churches with women pastors and to abolish its public-policy arm, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission — which is staunchly conservative, but according to critics, not enough so.

I don't have a position on gay marriage as folks should be able to make their own decision. The same for the SBC. They are entitled to their own position and there are plenty of other denominations for those who not agree with their position.

Your position is that you aare either ambivalent about the subject or in support of it. As for the SBC, they only came into existence because of their "position" on slavery. So what their opinion is on any subject means less to me than a wadded up brown paper bag.

[Vrede too]

Your position is that you are either ambivalent about the subject or in support of it. As for the SBC, they only came into existence because of their "position" on slavery. So what their opinion is on any subject means less to me than a wadded up brown paper bag.

SoupySales confabulates the issue, as usual. This is not about who baptists may marry or how they worship. Rather it is the SBC's intent to change national policy for all of us.

[Whack9]

It's good that southern baptists can choose to not get gay married if it's not their thing. It's also good for the likely closeted SBC's that no one is forcing them to come out of the closest

[1 CAT FAN]

No Pope is perfect.

https://x.com/JomboyMedia/status/1933215318786068815

They're infallible, heathen.


Are we going to have this fight again?

Southern Baptists vote to endorse a ban on gay marriage

Southern Baptists overwhelmingly endorsed a ban on gay marriage — including a call for a reversal of the U.S. Supreme Court’s 10-year-old precedent legalizing it nationwide.

They also called for legislators to curtail sports betting and to support policies that promote childbearing.

The votes came at the gathering of more than 10,000 church representatives at the annual meeting of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination.

, bigots.

... Several abuse survivors and advocates for reform, who previously had a prominent presence in recent SBC meetings, are skipping this year’s gathering, citing lack of progress by the convention.

Figures

... It is the latest instance of “officials trailing out hollow words, impotent task forces and phony dog-and-pony shows of reform,” abuse survivor and longtime advocate Christa Brown wrote on Baptist News Global, which is not SBC-affiliated.

In a related action, the Executive Committee will also be seeking $3 million in convention funding for ongoing legal expenses related to abuse cases....

Messengers will also debate whether to institute a constitutional ban on churches with women pastors and to abolish its public-policy arm, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission — which is staunchly conservative, but according to critics, not enough so.

I don't have a position on gay marriage as folks should be able to make their own decision. The same for the SBC. They are entitled to their own position and there are plenty of other denominations for those who not agree with their position.

Your position is that you aare either ambivalent about the subject or in support of it. As for the SBC, they only came into existence because of their "position" on slavery. So what their opinion is on any subject means less to me than a wadded up brown paper bag.

There are no southern Baptist people of color?

[1 CAT FAN]

Your position is that you are either ambivalent about the subject or in support of it. As for the SBC, they only came into existence because of their "position" on slavery. So what their opinion is on any subject means less to me than a wadded up brown paper bag.

SoupySales confabulates the issue, as usual. This is not about who baptists may marry or how they worship. Rather it is the SBC's intent to change national policy for all of us.

You and Max Headroom plan on tying the knot?
Hominys

[neoplacebo]

Your position is that you are either ambivalent about the subject or in support of it. As for the SBC, they only came into existence because of their "position" on slavery. So what their opinion is on any subject means less to me than a wadded up brown paper bag.

SoupySales confabulates the issue, as usual. This is not about who baptists may marry or how they worship. Rather it is the SBC's intent to change national policy for all of us.

Do you ever wonder whether any of the nutjobs who cheer on trump's fascism as long as they agree with some particular aspect of it will ever come to realize that they themselves could easily become a victim of it? They seem to totally disregard that idea. But I guess it's to be expected; hell, for almost a decade they've been programmed to believe they're victims of all kinds of vile policies. Perhaps it's destiny that they, as perpetual victims of all things, fall victim to their own enthusiasm.

And as you note, it's not about the issue at hand; it's about control and power.

[1 CAT FAN]

Has that Tesla molotov bomber recovered from setting himself on fire? He's not disfigured is he? After his life changing event, he and Elon probably can be friends again now.

[Vrede too]

Your position is that you are either ambivalent about the subject or in support of it. As for the SBC, they only came into existence because of their "position" on slavery. So what their opinion is on any subject means less to me than a wadded up brown paper bag.

SoupySales confabulates the issue, as usual. This is not about who baptists may marry or how they worship. Rather it is the SBC's intent to change national policy for all of us.

Do you ever wonder whether any of the nutjobs who cheer on trump's fascism as long as they agree with some particular aspect of it will ever come to realize that they themselves could easily become a victim of it? They seem to totally disregard that idea. But I guess it's to be expected; hell, for almost a decade they've been programmed to believe they're victims of all kinds of vile policies. Perhaps it's destiny that they, as perpetual victims of all things, fall victim to their own enthusiasm.

And as you note, it's not about the issue at hand; it's about control and power.

We and others show them exactly that with endless entries into the Face-Eating Leopards meme, but we've seen over and over that even those whose faces have been eaten don't always abandon MAGA . Cults, that's how they are.

[1 CAT FAN]

Has that Tesla molotov bomber recovered from setting himself on fire? He's not disfigured is he? After his life changing event, he and Elon probably can be friends again now.

Hominys

[Vrede too]

NC nurse, we've never met:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DKVrukwub7O/
778,766 likes

Spoiler alert! JESUS WAS THE BIGGEST LIBERAL THERE WILL EVER BE.

Can’t forget Leviticus 19:33-34
33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

There couldn’t be a bigger red flag in a person than someone who says they love Jesus and voted for Trump

How do I like this a million times? Where’s the button?

Absolutely incredible Jen!! You have a new follower here. It’s the same thing of how they treat the LGBTQ+ community.. when they say, “hate the sin, love the sinner” I would say back to them, “hate the belief, love the believer”

Progressive Reform Jew here, grateful for all the Christians who are practicing the love and kindness your savior preached. Thank you for the work you do to try to remind others.

I’m not interested in any movement, religious or otherwise, that considers any human illegal. Legality is a construct. Human beings are all deserving of love and compassion.

Lord help me, even Donald Trump.

I’m a Baptist pastor.

I have a:
Bachelor of religion
Master of Theological Studies
Master of Divinity
Doctor of Ministry
PhD in Systematic Theology

I 1,000% support, endorse, condone, and would invite her to give a sermon in my church or a lecture in my class ANYTIME.

As a former (forever recovering) evangelical, my favorite way to fight back is with Scripture. Either admit the Bible is wrong, or admit you are. The end!

Zechariah 7:9–10
"This is what the Lord Almighty said: ‘Administer true justice; show mercy and compassion to one another. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the foreigner or the poor.’"

They not gon like this one!

JESUS WAS A LIBERAL FFS!!!!!

This Viral Video Has People Talking About Christianity Versus 'MAGA Christianity'
“As a Christian, I don't think you can be both MAGA and Christian,” one person wrote in the comments of the video.

... “Basically, I sat down at my kitchen table and began to read from Matthew 25 while overlaying MAGA policies that directly oppose the character and nature of Jesus’ teachings,” she told HuffPost....

8.6 million views on TikTok

... But not everyone was a fan. Hamilton said she’s been on the receiving end of some MAGA ire since posting the clip.

“Some even reported me to the Board of Nursing to have my license taken away,” Hamilton told HuffPost. “As a nurse, I don’t know how you don’t fight for the rights of the vulnerable communities you care for.”

MAGA detests the 1A.

... “The video was about the hypocrisy of people claiming to follow Jesus while supporting a movement that actively harms the specific communities He called us to love,” Hamilton said.



Hamilton’s critics say that she is misrepresenting Scripture, but she wonders how that can be when she was literally just reading Jesus’ words.

MAGA detests logic and honesty.

The fierce debate over Hamilton’s video is a microcosm for what’s been happening in American Christianity for at least the last 50 years, said the Rev. Brandan Robertson, a pastor of Sunnyside Reformed Church in New York City, and the author of “Queer & Christian: Reclaiming the Bible, Our Faith, and our Place at the Table.”

“The religious right was formed to use conservative Christianity as a tool to help right wing politicians gain power and enact policies that preserve white, conservative Christian privilege at the expense of everyone else,” Robertson said in an email interview with HuffPost.

The MAGA movement, Robertson said, is just the “full revelation” of what the religious right has dreamt of doing for decades.

“They have been remarkably effective in their strategy to conflate their values with Christian orthodoxy and have convinced a considerable number of American Christians that to be a Christian is to support right-wing policies,” he said.

Yep, Christianity has been corrupted by the RW and now MAGA. We've seen on BRD how RWers obsess about abortion, LGBTQ+ and little else that's biblical. That's no accident. They're programmed that way.

... In a Pew survey conducted after his first 100 days in office in April, 72% of white evangelical Protestants approve of his job as president.

The president has surrounded himself with a coterie of evangelical pastors and faith leaders, including Paula White, a tongue-speaking televangelist whose called the Black Lives Matter movement the “Antichrist,” and William Wolfe ― a self-described “Christian nationalist” and executive director of the Center for Baptist Leadership who told conservative news site The Daily Signal he considers mass deportations a Christian issue.


Faith leaders pray over President Donald Trump during a 'Evangelicals for Trump' campaign event held at the King Jesus International Ministry on January 3, 2020 in Miami, Florida.

... While Protestants may be the most vocal critics of the Trump administration, a number of evangelicals and Catholics have split off from the MAGA movement and spoken about the “the spiritual danger of Donald Trump.”

The latter have been particularly vocal about the Trump administration’s anti-immigrant actions. Earlier this month, the first U.S. bishop appointed by Pope Leo XIV called for priests, deacons and parish leaders to stand in solidarity with migrants by showing up to immigration court proceedings.

“All of these people are working to shake their fellow believers out of their obsession with Trump and calling them back to Christ,” Robertson said.

“Prophetic, progressive Christians that are devoted to the way of Jesus are standing up and speaking up, and I am hopeful that we can form coalitions that can change the direction of this country for the common good of all people,” he said....

GOJenGO!!!