The Supremes

[Whack9]

Was doing some reading, apparently nationwide injunctions from a lower court being applicable to the entire country weren't really a thing throughout most US history. There's something known as Circuit Splitting, when two district courts have conflicting rulings. Usually the supreme court gets involved when this happens: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_split

In United States federal courts, a circuit split, also known as a split of authority or split in authority, occurs when two or more different circuit courts of appeals provide conflicting rulings on the same legal issue.[1] The existence of a circuit split is one of the factors that the Supreme Court of the United States considers when deciding whether to grant review of a case.[2] Some scholars suggest that the Supreme Court is more likely to grant review of a case to resolve a circuit split than for any other reason.[3]

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There's differing opinions on the matter.

[Vrede too]

SCOTUS rules in Birthright Citizenship Case

6-3 decision from court’s conservative majority could imperil scope of damning court rulings against president’s agenda

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 78317.html

The Supreme Court's conservative majority has stripped federal courts’ authority to issue nationwide injunctions that have blocked key parts of Donald Trump’s agenda.

So if a federal district court issues an injunction on something because it rules it unconstitutional, that ruling only applies to that specific district, and does not apply nationwide?

I think so. To be fair, I didn't like it when that extremist Texas judge was issuing nationwide misogynist rulings against Biden policy.

Does this mean we will have multiple, competing, interpretations of the constitution depending on which district you live in? Can something be ruled unconstitutional and therefore illegal in one district, but still be legal in another? How would that even work? What's the point in even having a constitution?

Yes.
We have abortion legal some places and not others.
We used to have same sex marriage legal some places and not others.
District rulings get appealed. When enough Appeals Court rulings conflict SCOTUS takes up the substance of the issue, in this case birthright citizenship (as you posted while I was composing). AFAIK, TACO's EO was not retroactive. That would be a real mess.

It's not ideal, but I think there's some rationale for limiting the power of individual district courts. It's a shame this was a partisan ruling.

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[Jasmine]

Today was a great day for the conservative cause. An underrated but really appreciated decision was giving parents the right to opt out their kids from reading LGBQT books. It’s absurd that this case even had to get this far. A big victory for parental rights!

[Vrede too]

Today was a great day for the conservative cause. An underrated but really appreciated decision was giving parents the right to opt out their kids from reading LGBQT books. It’s absurd that this case even had to get this far. A big victory for parental rights!

Haha haha, your parents are bigots and censors, haha haha.

Yeah, that'll be good for the kids. Btw, what's the usual reaction to banned books? Are people including kids more or less likely to seek them out?

[Jasmine]

Today was a great day for the conservative cause. An underrated but really appreciated decision was giving parents the right to opt out their kids from reading LGBQT books. It’s absurd that this case even had to get this far. A big victory for parental rights!

Haha haha, your parents are bigots and censors, haha haha.

Yeah, that'll be good for the kids. Btw, what's the usual reaction to banned books? Are people including kids more or less likely to seek them out?

Give me one reason why kids should be forced to participate in LBGQT curriculums?

[O Really]

Today was a great day for the conservative cause. An underrated but really appreciated decision was giving parents the right to opt out their kids from reading LGBQT books. It’s absurd that this case even had to get this far. A big victory for parental rights!

Haha haha, your parents are bigots and censors, haha haha.

Yeah, that'll be good for the kids. Btw, what's the usual reaction to banned books? Are people including kids more or less likely to seek them out?

Give me one reason why kids should be forced to participate in LBGQT curriculums?

Why should they be forced to participate in algebra?

[Vrede too]

Algebra is okay, but trigonometry is commie indoctrination.

Give me one reason why kids should be forced to participate in LBGQT curriculums?

Because they are part of the human experience. Are you also going to ban all books with princes and princesses? Human and animal reproduction? Historical hetero couples, etc? If not, then YOU are sexualizing kids, but just with a narrow view of what YOU consider acceptable. Fine, do that in your home, just don't force my kids to follow bigoted curricula, or to have their education disrupted by you minority bigots.

[Jasmine]

Today was a great day for the conservative cause. An underrated but really appreciated decision was giving parents the right to opt out their kids from reading LGBQT books. It’s absurd that this case even had to get this far. A big victory for parental rights!

Haha haha, your parents are bigots and censors, haha haha.

Yeah, that'll be good for the kids. Btw, what's the usual reaction to banned books? Are people including kids more or less likely to seek them out?

Give me one reason why kids should be forced to participate in LBGQT curriculums?

That’s an evade.
Why should they be forced to participate in algebra?

[Jasmine]

Algebra is okay, but trigonometry is commie indoctrination.

Give me one reason why kids should be forced to participate in LBGQT curriculums?

Because they are part of the human experience. Are you also going to ban all books with princes and princesses? Human and animal reproduction? Historical hetero couples, etc? If not, then YOU are sexualizing kids, but just with a narrow view of what YOU consider acceptable. Fine, do that in your home, just don't force my kids to follow bigoted curricula, or to have their education disrupted by you minority bigots.

LGBTQ is not part of the human experience. That’s just silly.

What next? Forcing kids to learn about the joys of pedophilia?

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Today was a great day for the conservative cause. An underrated but really appreciated decision was giving parents the right to opt out their kids from reading LGBQT books. It’s absurd that this case even had to get this far. A big victory for parental rights!

Haha haha, your parents are bigots and censors, haha haha.

Yeah, that'll be good for the kids. Btw, what's the usual reaction to banned books? Are people including kids more or less likely to seek them out?

Is that what you did, you sought them out?
Jasmine, he probably had several physical demonstrations. Sick

[Vrede too]

Algebra is okay, but trigonometry is commie indoctrination.

Give me one reason why kids should be forced to participate in LBGQT curriculums?

Because they are part of the human experience. Are you also going to ban all books with princes and princesses? Human and animal reproduction? Historical hetero couples, etc? If not, then YOU are sexualizing kids, but just with a narrow view of what YOU consider acceptable. Fine, do that in your home, just don't force my kids to follow bigoted curricula, or to have their education disrupted by you minority bigots.

LGBTQ is not part of the human experience. That’s just silly.

What next? Forcing kids to learn about the joys of pedophilia?

You bigots ALWAYS go there. Seems that diddling kids is YOUR obsession, not that of LGBTQs or their allies. Please stay away from my grandkids, creep. Ironically, LGBTQ education has already identified a lack in YOUR schooling. Somehow, you never learned the concept of 'consent'. Weird.

I see, in your view Alexander the Great, Bayard Rustin, Ellen DeGeneres, Freddie Mercury, Rock Hudson, Elton John, Billie Jean King, Megan Rapinoe, Sen Lindsey Graham (suspected), Jodie Foster and so on, endlessly, are not part of the human experience. Talk about "silly".

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Algebra is okay, but trigonometry is commie indoctrination.

Give me one reason why kids should be forced to participate in LBGQT curriculums?

Because they are part of the human experience. Are you also going to ban all books with princes and princesses? Human and animal reproduction? Historical hetero couples, etc? If not, then YOU are sexualizing kids, but just with a narrow view of what YOU consider acceptable. Fine, do that in your home, just don't force my kids to follow bigoted curricula, or to have their education disrupted by you minority bigots.

LGBTQ is not part of the human experience. That’s just silly.

What next? Forcing kids to learn about the joys of pedophilia?

Please stay away from my grandkids

Have they seen your avatar?

[O Really]

To relate algebra to LGBTQ studies isn't an evade. It's to say that schools create the parts of their curriculum in various ways, but most all are similar. Pick any topic and you'll find some parents that will consider it to be worthless or poorly taught. "Why does my kid need to learn cursive?" "Why aren't you teaching my kid cursive?" "Why are you wasting my kid's time on art? Teach him auto shop."

You could look at LGBTQ studies as a part of sociology. LGBTQ people are a small but not statistically insignificant part of society. They vote. They buy stuff. They buy houses next to you. They go to your church and teach in your schools. They are portrayed, accurately or not, in mainstream films and TV. They have the occasional parade, and are a sought-after demographic for marketers. But like any minority group, they're subject to a lot of discrimination, abuse, and hate. Providing accurate information to students about minority members of society is a good thing, as it eases some of the fear and insecurities that create the antagonism.

Now, like anything else, parents can and do alter, contradict, or enhance lessons taught in schools. Sometimes filtered through a religious viewpoint, sometimes through culture, sometimes through personal experience or ignorance. Education involves learning about a wide variety of things, some may be disagreed with, and more importantly education involves learning to think analytically. I would rather tell my kid that he will be exposed to a lot of information that may not be correct or that may conflict with what he's learned at home and his job is to use that information as a starting point in his studies - not taking things at face value.

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Hey kid, see that grotesque woman with a huge wig and hairy arms that has a deep voice. She has a penis.
See the plain woman beside her, she has a vagina.
Face value

[Vrede too]

To relate algebra to LGBTQ studies isn't an evade.

Excellent explanation, but ftr your intent in asking, "Why should they be forced to participate in algebra?" was crystal clear to me. It's weird that it got called "an evade."

[O Really]

I had to take algebra 1 and 2, and in over a half century have found zero use for it. But I can imagine the response if my parents had told the school I wasn't allowed to take it because there's nothing about algebra in the Bible, or whatever.

[neoplacebo]

Looks like the cat pan thinks kids are somehow endowed with puberty level sexual attitudes. Probably because of something that happened to him when he was a kid. Why else would he want to groom kids to know about penises and vaginas?. He must have had a horrid childhood. Probably breast fed by his father. sad really sad

[neoplacebo]

I had to take algebra 1 and 2, and in over a half century have found zero use for it. But I can imagine the response if my parents had told the school I wasn't allowed to take it because there's nothing about algebra in the Bible, or whatever.

I sort of have used algebra in my real life. One of its basic concepts is finding out what you don't know by using what you do know. So I've done that. But it could have been due to drugs instead of algebra. I forget. I do know that the way I mastered the trigonometry functions (sin, cosine, tangent) by just memorizing the phrase Oscar Had A Hairy Old Ass....sin being opposite over hypotenuse, cosine is adjacent over hypotenuse, and tangent of an angle is opposite over adjacent. ok

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I had to take algebra 1 and 2, and in over a half century have found zero use for it. But I can imagine the response if my parents had told the school I wasn't allowed to take it because there's nothing about algebra in the Bible, or whatever.

I sort of have used algebra in my real life. One of its basic concepts is finding out what you don't know by using what you do know. So I've done that. But it could have been due to drugs instead of algebra. I forget. I do know that the way I mastered the trigonometry functions (sin, cosine, tangent) by just memorizing the phrase Oscar Had A Hairy Old Ass....sin being opposite over hypotenuse, cosine is adjacent over hypotenuse, and tangent of an angle is opposite over adjacent. ok

Neo and O Really come home from school and tell their parents that queer is a mandatory class, can they help with their homework. They have do a show & tell in order to get a passing grade.