Epstein list release predictions and followup

[bannination]

My predictions.

Even though K-Stu already posted a list not knowing that Donald Trump was on the list (because he's a fucking idiot and doesn't read what he posts....), got embarrassed and left the thread in which no other Trumper humper responded to.

The wingnuts will act like it's brand new news again then deny deny deny, and use a bunch of whataboutism.

Totally not obvious and I'm definitely a fortune teller.

[billy.pilgrim]

I have personally banned LNF - duration to be determined.
I’m not sure how a site can allow a mod to change other people’s posts and expect adherence to any rule.

[bannination]

I have personally banned LNF - duration to be determined.
I’m not sure how a site can allow a mod to change other people’s posts and expect adherence to any rule.

Eh... I wouldn't worry too much, it's an isolated case. K-Stu really hates me as many times as I've made him look like a complete moron. (Not that it's hard..) I'm not sure if he was targeting me or not seeing how he was changing global text replacements for everyone.

I don't like that fact that someone like that has access to see our IP addresses. I still lurk on occasion, and it continues to remind me why it's a waste of time. Wingnuts continue to post the same stories that have been debunked a thousand times and pretend like it's brand new information.


Anyway, GOP right now looks like:

[GoCubsGo]

Sounds like this round isn't going to be very controversial.

Stay tuned.

[Vrede too]

Sounds like this round isn't going to be very controversial.

Stay tuned.

The list includes possible victims as well as friends, litigation witnesses, and Epstein associates and employees. Association with rich, sociable Epstein does not mean participation in criminal activity. Otoh, his creepiness was no secret.

Jeffrey Epstein List in Full as Dozens of Names Revealed

... In December, U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska found no legal justification for continuing to withhold the names of as many as 175 individuals allegedly connected with Epstein, ordering the unsealing to begin from January 1.

Loretta Preska was appointed by Daddy Shrub, but I'm not sure if that's relevant to her approach to this case.

Here are the contents of the documents released Wednesday in Giuffre v. Maxwell by the Southern District of New York

More than 70 names were included in the documents, with four redacted.

Names I recognize include:
Ghislaine Maxwell (convicted co-conspirator)
Virginia Lee Roberts Giuffre (alleged trafficking victim)
Cate Blanchett
Naomi Campbell
Bill Clinton
David Copperfield
Cameron Diaz
Leonardo DiCaprio
Alan Dershowitz
Al Gore
Stephen Hawking
Michael Jackson
George Lucas
Bill Richardson
Kevin Spacey
Donald Trump
Bruce Willis
Andrew Albert Christian Edwards, Duke of York (Prince Andrew)

Context needed.

[billy.pilgrim]

I hope Al Gore isn’t on the list for anything illegal. I liked Al.

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[O Really]

Not that I think this example is real, but it is realistic and accurate: If Ghislaine was asked in her testimony "Do you know if O Really had any interaction with Epstein?" and she replied, "I never heard of O Really and am sure he had nothing to do with Epstein." Then O Really would appear on the list of redacts.

The list needs context, so if anybody only reads a list without the documents, they're wasting their time on worthless supposition.

Here's the entire doc dump in case anyone is interested.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/04/jeffre ... pic%2Fnews

[bannination]

Not that I think this example is real, but it is realistic and accurate: If Ghislaine was asked in her testimony "Do you know if O Really had any interaction with Epstein?" and she replied, "I never heard of O Really and am sure he had nothing to do with Epstein." Then O Really would appear on the list of redacts.

The list needs context, so if anybody only reads a list without the documents, they're wasting their time on worthless supposition.

Here's the entire doc dump in case anyone is interested.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/04/jeffre ... pic%2Fnews

Agreed as much as I'd like Trump caught red handed with this as well. Then again if Trumper humpers don't care about him walking into underage dressing rooms and rape.... what would they care about.

[billy.pilgrim]

Not that I think this example is real, but it is realistic and accurate: If Ghislaine was asked in her testimony "Do you know if O Really had any interaction with Epstein?" and she replied, "I never heard of O Really and am sure he had nothing to do with Epstein." Then O Really would appear on the list of redacts.

The list needs context, so if anybody only reads a list without the documents, they're wasting their time on worthless supposition.

Here's the entire doc dump in case anyone is interested.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/04/jeffre ... pic%2Fnews

Agreed as much as I'd like Trump caught red handed with this as well. Then again if Trumper humpers don't care about him walking into underage dressing rooms and rape.... what would they care about.

Kstupid and his racist bud just say that they would be horrified except that it never happened. It’s all left wing lies.

[GoCubsGo]

I haven't been paying much attention, but apparently the Epstein files are becoming a big thing again (this week anyways).

[GoCubsGo]

Ah.

Maybe this is the latest witch hunt.



Looks like bromance makeup is off and the breakup is back on.

[GoCubsGo]

Well, they're talking.

[Vrede too]

They RW really dug themselves a deep hole to climb out of. They went all in on demanding transparency when they thought it would trip up liberals like Bill Clinton. He's old and Hillary won't ever run for office, so the biggest fish left to fry is DonOLD. What we're getting now is TACO, as usual. The promises won't be kept and nothing about PINO and his billionaire buddies will ever get released.

[neoplacebo]

I like to believe that there is a list and that trump and that royal dipshit and some other high rollers are in there. But no famous liberals. Only documented plane trips over a period of years. But to think that Bondi and Patel and quite a few others might just know the truth about this favorite right wing fantasy and that it would be devastating for trump is funny to consider. Shit! Have I become one of them because I just made that up?

[Vrede too]

I like to believe that there is a list and that trump and that royal dipshit and some other high rollers are in there. But no famous liberals. Only documented plane trips over a period of years. But to think that Bondi and Patel and quite a few others might just know the truth about this favorite right wing fantasy and that it would be devastating for trump is funny to consider. Shit! Have I become one of them because I just made that up?

You've always been in my book, hominy. Speaking of :

Alex Jones Breaks Down in Tears After DOJ, FBI Release Epstein Memo Finding No Evidence of a ‘Client List’: It ‘Tears My Guts Out’

Many in the MAGA movement are in a state of anger and disbelief over the Justice Department and FBI’s memo disclosing that there was no evidence of a Jeffrey Epstein “client list” that incriminated powerful people amid his perpetration of child sexual abuse. Among those was right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who posted a video showing his raw reaction to the memo.

The memo released Monday by the DOJ and FBI (available at this link) says that an “exhaustive review” of Epstein documents found “no credible evidence” that Epstein “blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.” ...

“It’s beyond insane,” Jones said. “You couldn’t try to hurt yourself worse. You couldn’t try to discredit the FBI worse than what they’ve done.”

“All those videos are saying, ‘Yeah, she’s seen the videos, it’s all coming out.’ And then now it doesn’t exist? I mean, what?” Jones said in the video. Jones also speculated that FBI Director Kash Patel and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino are “being tortured” and said, “I think you see them losing their souls on live TV.”

“So this is the swamp winning,” Jones said. “The question is, is Trump’s DOJ actually using this to control the deep state, or are they just so overwhelmed by it they are tapping out?”

Jones, who shot the video in his car, at another point became tearful and said, “I just got to the office, I’m going to go throw up, actually… I mean, I’m physically gonna puke, probably right now. My mouth is watering right now because I have integrity. I just really need the Trump administration to succeed, and to save this country, and they’re doing so much good. And then for them to do something like this tears my guts out.”

Jones added that “the left, they’re all complicit. They’re openly promoting pedophilia. We know they’re pure evil. And they’ll think it’s all funny, ‘Oh, look, Alex is sad. MAGA’s tearing [itself] apart.'”

All true . . . except for the "pedophilia" projection.

... Elon Musk, amid an escalating feud with President Trump that exploded last month, claimed in a June 5 post on X (which he has since deleted) that Trump “is in the Epstein files,” which he asserted “is the real reason they haven’t been made public.” ...

Major fuel for the conspiracy theory fire:

Virginia Giuffre, Epstein Accuser and Non-Profit Founder, Dies at 41
April 26, 2025

Virginia Giuffre, an earlier accuser of Jeffrey Epstein and founder of the Speak Out, Act Out, Reclaim (SOAR) nonprofit, died at her farm in Western Australia on April 25, according to The New York Times. She was 41.

According to a statement from Giuffre’s family to the Times, she died by suicide ...

Polonium? "Threw" herself out a high window?

[Vrede too]

Melon Mush on the warpath:







Article, including earlier tweets

... Le sigh, I wish I could tell you this is all just one sick joke. But no, this is real life, starring the world’s richest man and our country's highest official. What a timeline to watch unfold.

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JD Vance’s old tweets show why the ‘Epstein client list’ is becoming such a problem for Trump

... On Monday, “Epstein” was the top trend on X/Twitter. Laura Loomer, one of Trump’s occasional White House guests and a semi-adviser responsible for a loyalty purge of the National Security Council, was in trademark venom-spitting mode as she accused Bondi of “incompetence”.

“@AGPamBondi should resign for lying to the American People,” tweeted Loomer Monday afternoon.

GoLauraGo!

There’s no question: Trumpworld has lost the narrative on this one. But there’s a reason why: this is a beast (in part) of its own making.

While Vance is now in the uncomfortable spot of defending his boss from speculation, he was once one of the cheerleaders of the conspiracy himself, and not just as a one-off ...

GoJDGo!

And on X, Vance was even more acerbic criticizing the Biden administration over the investigation. In late 2021, just months before he would go on to become the GOP nominee for Senate in Ohio, the Hillbilly Elegy writer retweeted a “Pizzagate” conspiracy theorist who has gone on to become a fixture inside Trumpworld, Jack Posobiec.

“What possible interest would the U.S. government have in keeping Epstein’s clients secret? Oh...” tweeted the nation’s future vice president.

In a second, longer rant aimed at another one of MAGA’s favorite targets, he then added: “If you’re a journalist and you’re not asking questions about this case you should be ashamed of yourself. What purpose do you even serve? I’m sure there’s a middle class teenager somewhere who could use some harassing right now but maybe try to do your job once in a while.” ...

[Vrede too]

The FBI memo says that there is no client list and there will be no more information forthcoming.

Ronny Chieng: That's it? I've never been ghosted by a conspiracy before.

[Whack9]

Elon Musk supposedly knowing that Trump was in the Epstein client list and being completely ok with it until they had their fallout is not a good look. Are these people stupid?

Nevertheless, I am here for it. Let these shit bags devour themselves.